[GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Process for TMCH Sunrise & Trademark Claims Sub Teams

[George Kirikos]

Hi folks,

I agree with the concerns raised by Michael Karanicolas. According to
the staff reply to his email of earlier this week, further compilation
of that other data awaits "more specific direction from the Working
Group once analysis of the Sunrise and Claims survey data as well as
the data already available is complete". However, cccording to the
timeline, there's a meeting on January 30 of the full WG to "to
receive Sub Team reports on results of survey data analysis", yet
there's really nothing scheduled to give ICANN staff the direction
they seek. The sub teams are set to begin analysis of "previously
collected data" the following two weeks, but when would ICANN staff
have been collating all the relevant third party sources that were
previously identified but not systematically collected (i.e. various
blog posts, etc. that highlighted sunrise abuses)? Given the
deficiencies in the survey data, the importance of these other sources
of data in helping to answer the charter questions is heightened.

Sincerely,

George Kirikos
416-588-0269
http://www.leap.com/

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 11:55 PM Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
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> Hello Michael and everyone,
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> The phrase “previously-collected data” refers to all the reports, data and information that are listed under the heading “Data collected to date” in the respective Appendix to the Table of Agreed Sunrise Charter Questions & Data Collected and the Table of Agreed Trademark Claims Charter Questions & Data Collected documents, circulated to the Working Group by staff on 4 December 2018 in preparation for the Working Group’s 5 December call: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2018-December/003549.html. As you can see, the data includes documents such as the Analysis Group’s TMCH Independent Review, the INTA Cost Impact Survey, previous input from some registries and the various reports from Deloitte.
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> You are right that the Working Group had early on identified additional sources of potential data – namely, news articles, research publications and blog posts (including comments thereto). As staff explained on the December 2018 call where this question was raised, staff conducted some preliminary research amongst some of these sources (primarily, some of the industry and other blogs suggested by several Working Group members). However, we very quickly found that the type and volume of the results would mean that a great deal of time and effort would be needed to compile the full lists and categorize them as an initial matter.
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> In addition, given the Working Group’s instructions that staff were not to conduct any sifting or analysis work but merely collate, compile and categories all entries found for further Working Group review, it seemed clear that this was a huge task for which a significant amount of Working Group (or Sub Team) time would be needed. Given that it was unclear what, exactly, the scope of the search was to be (e.g. what search terms were to be used, and what excluded) and that the Working Group soon thereafter decided to develop the data request that ultimately became the Sunrise and Claims surveys administered by the Analysis Group, staff has not proceeded further with the research – pending more specific direction from the Working Group once analysis of the Sunrise and Claims survey data as well as the data already available is complete, such that the utility of such a wide-ranging and undefined search can be clearer.
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> We hope this is helpful.
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> Thanks and cheers
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> Mary, Julie & Ariel
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> From: GNSO-RPM-WG <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 20:30
> To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org>
> Cc: "gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [GNSO-RPM-WG] Proposed Process for TMCH Sunrise & Trademark Claims Sub Teams
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> Hi,
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> Thanks very much for sending along. I have a small question with regard to the "Tasks" section, which begins with the line: "To analyze the results of the Sunrise and Trademark Claims surveys as well as the previously collected data...".
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> Could I request some clarification of the meaning of "the previously collected data"? Am I to take that to mean that it would include journalistic or academic articles which demonstrate issues with the system, for example by pointing to examples of generic words being included in the TMCH, or that these data sources would be specifically excluded? If these are excluded, and we are limited to just looking at the survey, I think that's problematic, but would be happy to hear that's not the intent of the phrasing.
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> Best wishes,
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> Michael Karanicolas
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> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 12:55 PM Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org> wrote:
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> Dear RPM PDP Working Group (WG) members,
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> On behalf of the WG Co-Chairs, please see for your consideration the attached Proposed Process for TMCH Sunrise & Trademark Claims Sub Teams.  Please let us know of any comments or questions you may have.
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> Best,
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> Mary, Ariel, Berry, and Julie
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