[GNSO-RPM-WG] [Ext] RE: Small Group for proposed amendments to TM-PDDRP

Fri Aug 28 19:18:07 UTC 2020

Paul:

Rest assured that I have not jumped to any conclusion that whatever the small group agrees upon will require public comment. In that regard, when it does report back, it would be helpful if in addition to the final recommendation text you could highlight what changes have been made (per a redline) from what was put out for comment in the IR.

As I said below, “My own view would be that we should seek public comment where we have a substantially new proposal that could have a material effect on the community or portions thereof.” (highlighted for emphasis)

I appreciate your taking the lead on this.

Everyone have a great weekend.

Best, Philip

Philip S. Corwin

Policy Counsel

VeriSign, Inc.

12061 Bluemont Way
Reston, VA 20190

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From: McGrady, Paul D. <PMcGrady at taftlaw.com>
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 2:52 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [Ext] RE: Small Group for proposed amendments to TM-PDDRP

Thanks Mary.  Thanks Phil.

We will, of course, get back to the main WG as quickly as possible.  However, I think we may be jumping to the conclusion that the proposed amendments to the TM-PDDRP that are designed to prevent circumventing the mandatory RPMs imposed by ICANN or restricting brand owners’ reasonable use of the Sunrise rights protection mechanism would need to be put out to public comment.  The WG has already settled on Sunrise Recommendation #2 which is essentially the same idea:

“Sunrise Recommendation #2 The Working Group recommends that the Registry Agreement for future new gTLDs includes a provision stating that a Registry Operator shall not operate its TLD in such a way as to have the effect of circumventing the mandatory RPMs imposed by ICANN or restricting brand owners’ reasonable use of the Sunrise rights protection mechanism.”

Also, the idea of improvements to the TM-PDDRP came directly from public comment.  I hope this helps with any angst over the timeline.  Thanks!

Best,

Paul

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Subject: RE: [Ext] RE: Small Group for proposed amendments to TM-PDDRP

Thanks Mary. That is pretty much the language I quoted, plus confirmation of the 21-day minimum comment period.

Philip S. Corwin

Policy Counsel

VeriSign, Inc.

12061 Bluemont Way
Reston, VA 20190

703-948-4648/Direct

571-342-7489/Cell

"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey

From: Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org>>
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ext] RE: Small Group for proposed amendments to TM-PDDRP

Hello Paul, Phil and all – the Doodle polls were sent out yesterday but we realize that it went to Paul’s old email address. The GNSO Secretariat has just re-sent the polls to Paul at his updated email address.

With regard to a public comment proceeding, here is the relevant language from the GNSO’s PDP Manual that was the basis for my previous guidance (noted by Phil): “In addition to any required public comment periods, the PDP Team may seek public comment on any item that the PDP Team notes it will benefit from further public input. The PDP Team does not have to seek approval from the GNSO Council to seek public comment on interim items. The minimum duration of a public comment period that does not concern the Initial Report is twenty (21) days.”

I hope that is helpful.

Cheers

Mary

From: "Corwin, Philip" <pcorwin at verisign.com<mailto:pcorwin at verisign.com>>
Date: Friday, August 28, 2020 at 11:09
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Subject: [Ext] RE: Small Group for proposed amendments to TM-PDDRP

Paul,

Thanks for staying on top of this. We do need that small group to bring something back to the full WG ASAP so that if the co-chairs decide it needs public comment we can hopefully close that 21-day period by the end of September and not have to submit another Project Change Request (ugh).

Back in late July, Mary told us, “a PDP Working Group also has the ability to post interim items for public comment that it believes “will benefit from further public input” – this may be an option where there is a need to resolve specific, concrete items during deliberations on a Final Report. You will therefore not need to wait for there to be a full draft report to exercise this option (though staff advises that any such items should be consolidated and posted as a single public comment proceeding and not on a piecemeal basis).” My own view would be that we should seek public comment where we have a substantially new proposal that could have a material effect on the community or portions thereof.

Very best,

Philip

Philip S. Corwin

Policy Counsel

VeriSign, Inc.

12061 Bluemont Way
Reston, VA 20190

703-948-4648/Direct

571-342-7489/Cell

"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Small Group for proposed amendments to TM-PDDRP

Hi Staff,

I’ve not seen a doodle go out on getting this small group together.  I don’t think merely trying to work this out on the list is what we need.  Can you please send out a doodle and try to get us together as early as possible next week so that we don’t have to ask the co-chairs for an extension on our report date?  Thanks much!

Best,

Paul

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