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<div>Just one clarification on your statement below</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;">If Phil's not interested in the GNSO Liaison role, in spite of the fact that it's the role he volunteered for at Council, that's fine. However, that does make it appear that this was done
as a steppingstone to the Chair and not out of interest in the role on its own merits. Of course, I may be reading too much into things. </div>
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<div>As you know, the GNSO council has many PDP WG’s moving forward and it is very helpful to the work of the Council for the Councilor that has the expertise and interest in the subject matter to volunteer as Liaison. Councilors all pick the subject matter
PDP that we are familiar with. I do not view the Liaison role to be a stepping stone to the Chair position but a long term interest and desire to work on topics most relevant to the constituency/stakeholder group we represent. I was in the same situation
as Phil when I was nominated for a leadership role in the RDS PDP. I do not think the Liaison role gives Phil an advantage or disadvantage in seeking a leadership role in this PDP. But as a matter of process he must step down from the Liaison role if
he takes on the leadership role just as I did. </div>
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<div>I do think you are reading to much into things…</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Greg Shatan via gnso-rpm-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 8:04 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Jonathan Frost <<a href="mailto:jonathan@get.club">jonathan@get.club</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>Zahid Jamil-IG via gnso-rpm-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Suggestion for Leadership Team<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think the balance issue cuts rather differently, and a vice-chair from the Contracted Parties House might actually exacerbate the issue.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default">If we are talking about "formal" representation, both J. Scott and Phil are members of the Business Constituency, so it's not fair to say that Phil, but not J. Scott, represents "business interests." On an informal or "de facto"
level, J Scott tends to represent (or at least stand for) the interests of businesses for whom IP is a significant asset, while Phil represents (and actually does represent) the interests of domain investors (a very specific sector of the business community
for whom IP is, at best, not a significant asset). As such, Phil's perspectives are far more aligned with those represented by Kathy, and that is the imbalance to which I refer. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default">My suggested configuration was intended to find a role for all 3 volunteers, while maintaining some sort of balance. If Phil's not interested in the GNSO Liaison role, in spite of the fact that it's the role he volunteered for at
Council, that's fine. However, that does make it appear that this was done as a steppingstone to the Chair and not out of interest in the role on its own merits. Of course, I may be reading too much into things. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default">I'd like to stress that I have the highest respect, and even affection, for all 3 volunteers, and for their contributions to ICANN over the years. But the configuration of our leadership team has to take other things into account.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Jonathan Frost via gnso-rpm-wg
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I tend to agree that there might be balance issues in that the non-contracted party house would have three representatives and the contracted party
house would have none.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I think a viable option would be to Phil as the Chair, J. Scott and Kathy as Vice Chairs, and a third vice chair from the contracted party house,
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan via gnso-rpm-wg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 12, 2016 10:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Statton Hammock <<a href="mailto:statton@rightside.rocks">statton@rightside.rocks</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Suggestion for Leadership Team<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;">I have some concerns with this configuration in terms of balance (and related concerns about the accuracy of Volker's categorizations, on both the "formal" and de facto levels). As such I
would instead suggest J. Scott and Kathy as co-chairs, with Phil remaining in the role of GNSO Liaison (the primary role to which Phil was already appointed).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Statton Hammock via gnso-rpm-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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with the list of nominations and seconds that we have right now (and provided we will not get any last minute nominations), it looks like Phil, Scott and Kathy have the most support. While none of these candidates represent contracted parties, I do not see
this as a problem, as I have great faith in the neutrality of all candidates.<br>
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With Phil formally representing business interests, Scott the IP concerns and Kathy the non commercial users, I propose we consider a triumvirate, maybe with one chair and two co/vice-chairs, with Phil as chair and Scott and Kathy as co-chairs.<br>
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