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    Hi Greg,<br>
    <br>
    I think there is a good balance here, despite your concerns:<br>
    If as you say, represents business interests with an IP focus, Kathy
    represents users of domain names and Phil presents owners of domain
    names, there is no real overlap here, and even if there were, the
    leaderships role is a neutral one and one's own position should not
    influence the work, wouldn't you agree?<br>
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    While having a leadership position filled by the CPH may be
    desirable, there has been no nomination or volunteer that would fit
    that slot, AFAIK. <br>
    <br>
    Best,<br>
    <br>
    Volker<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 12.04.2016 um 17:04 schrieb Greg
      Shatan via gnso-rpm-wg:<br>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think the balance
          issue cuts rather differently, and a vice-chair from the
          Contracted Parties House might actually exacerbate the issue.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_default">If we are talking about "formal"
            representation, both J. Scott and Phil are members of the
            Business Constituency, so it's not fair to say that Phil,
            but not J. Scott, represents "business interests."  On an
            informal or "de facto" level, J Scott tends to represent (or
            at least stand for) the interests of businesses for whom IP
            is a significant asset, while Phil represents (and actually
            does represent) the interests of domain investors (a very
            specific sector of the business community for whom IP is, at
            best, not a significant asset). As such, Phil's perspectives
            are far more aligned with those represented by Kathy, and
            that is the imbalance to which I refer. </div>
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          <div class="gmail_default">My suggested configuration was
            intended to find a role for all 3 volunteers, while
            maintaining some sort of balance.  If Phil's not interested
            in the GNSO Liaison role, in spite of the fact that it's the
            role he volunteered for at Council, that's fine.  However,
            that does make it appear that this was done as a
            steppingstone to the Chair and not out of interest in the
            role on its own merits.  Of course, I may be reading too
            much into things.  </div>
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          <div class="gmail_default">I'd like to stress that I have the
            highest respect, and even affection, for all 3 volunteers,
            and for their contributions to ICANN over the years.  But
            the configuration of our leadership team has to take other
            things into account.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_default">Greg </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:45 AM,
          Jonathan Frost via gnso-rpm-wg <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                    tend to agree that there might be balance issues in
                    that  the non-contracted party house would have
                    three representatives and the contracted party house
                    would have none.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I
                    think a viable option would be to  Phil as the
                    Chair, J. Scott and Kathy as Vice Chairs, and a
                    third vice chair from the contracted party house, to
                    balance the equation.</span></p>
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                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan via gnso-rpm-wg<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 12, 2016 10:38 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Statton Hammock
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                    <b>Cc:</b> Zahid Jamil-IG via gnso-rpm-wg &lt;<a
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                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Suggestion for
                    Leadership Team</span></p>
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                            style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">I
                            have some concerns with this configuration
                            in terms of balance (and related concerns
                            about the accuracy of Volker's
                            categorizations, on both the "formal" and de
                            facto levels).  As such I would instead
                            suggest J. Scott and Kathy as co-chairs,
                            with Phil remaining in the role of GNSO
                            Liaison (the primary role to which Phil was
                            already appointed).</span></p>
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                            style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif">Greg
                            Shatan</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at
                          9:40 AM, Statton Hammock via gnso-rpm-wg &lt;<a
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                                  agree with Volker's suggestion. </span></p>
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                                    2016 at 6:30 AM, Gabriela Szlak via
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">2016-04-12
                                              10:24 GMT-03:00 Volker
                                              Greimann via gnso-rpm-wg
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                                                with the list of
                                                nominations and seconds
                                                that we have right now
                                                (and provided we will
                                                not get any last minute
                                                nominations), it looks
                                                like Phil, Scott and
                                                Kathy have the most
                                                support. While none of
                                                these candidates
                                                represent contracted
                                                parties, I do not see
                                                this as a problem, as I
                                                have great faith in the
                                                neutrality of all
                                                candidates.<br>
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                                                With Phil formally
                                                representing business
                                                interests, Scott the IP
                                                concerns and Kathy the
                                                non commercial users, I
                                                propose we consider a
                                                triumvirate, maybe with
                                                one chair and two
                                                co/vice-chairs, with
                                                Phil as chair and Scott
                                                and Kathy as co-chairs.<br>
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                                                Best regards,<br>
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