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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Hi Jonathan, all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Just to round things out on the contributory cybersquatting theory, the court in
<i>Microsoft Corp. v. Shah, et al.</i>, C10-0653 (W.D. Wash.; Jan. 12, 2011) citing
<i>Ford Motor v. Greatdomains.com</i> and <i>Solid Host v. Namecheap</i> did recognize such a cause of action.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Frost<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 16, 2016 5:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Greg Shatan'; 'Phil Corwin'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Wiki page for information and documents on the TM-PDDRP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I think Phil and Jeff make some great points here.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I’d like to make the additional point that not only would considering the ISP line of cases create a new type of conduct that would be covered by PDDRP, considering
 the new type of conduct would put PDDRP out-of-sync with US law (and potential the law of other jurisdictions).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">In PETRONAS V. GODADDY.COM, the 9th Circuit found no cause of action for contributor cybersquatting under the ACPA.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Additionally, the ACPA specifically creates a registry/registrar safe-harbor for IP liability of its registrants. (15 U.S.C. § 1114(2)(D)(iii)). &nbsp;Baidu, Inc.
 v. Register. com, Inc. states that “<i>The first prong of the motion fails, as the statutory immunity for domain registrars is inapplicable. The Lanham Act provides that: A domain name registrar, a domain name registry, or other domain name registration authority
 shall not be liable for damages under this section for the registration or maintenance of a domain name for another absent a showing of bad faith intent to profit from such registration or maintenance of the domain name. 15 U.S.C. § 1114(2)(D)(iii) (emphasis
 added). As the underlined <b>words make clear, domain registrars are granted immunity for registering or maintaining a domain name for another</b>. See S.Rep. No. 106-140, at 11 (1999) (domain registrars are granted immunity to &quot;promote[] the continued ease
 and efficiency users of the current registration system enjoy by codifying current case law limiting the secondary liability of domain name registrars and registries for the act of registration of a name&quot;) (citing Panavision Int'l v. Toeppen, 141 F.3d 1316,
 1319 (9th Cir.1998)).”&nbsp; </i>Note that registrars and registries are treated alike under this statute, and both are exempt from on-going abuse
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I think we would be in danger of creating new substantive rights under the PDDRP if we start requiring registries/registrars to behave like hosting companies/ISPs/online
 retailers/WHOIS privacy services, because US law specifically recognizes that the registry/registrar is in a fundamentally different position from ISPs/hosting companies/online retailers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 16, 2016 10:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Phil Corwin &lt;<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Wiki page for information and documents on the TM-PDDRP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I don't think that suggestion (</span><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;it is being suggested that we consider an expansion of the type of
 conduct meant to be addressed by the PDDRP.</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">) is being made, or at least, that's not the point I was trying to
 make.&nbsp; Admittedly, you haven't read the cases.&nbsp; In the Cox case it is at least arguable that their behavior went into enabling infringement and not merely turning a blind eye to it.&nbsp; In any event, it is instructive to look at how others (including courts)
 have drawn the lines where a given space has a significant degree of infringement occurring.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">As to whether there is significant infringing (or other abusive) conduct occurring at some number of new registries -- there is certainly a fair amount of anecdotal comment to that effect.&nbsp;
 I'm not suggesting we can rely on any of that, but where there's smoke, it behooves us to take some steps to figure out whether it's fire.&nbsp; One of the issues we have is whether anyone is systematically collecting evidence (which ties into the level of awareness
 about the PDDRP, since the availability of a forum is directly related to the value in putting together evidence that one might bring before such a forum.&nbsp; I have some understand that efforts may be made (or may be underway) to either find evidence collected
 elsewhere or to have a process that would examine the new gtld space to see what evidence there is.&nbsp; For better or worse, there's no obvious effort already underway to do this on a wholesale basis (though perhaps it should be part of one or more of the Reviews).&nbsp;
 We do have the efforts of Lori Schulman and Susan Kawaguchi noted by Mary above, which should be part of this discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Phil Corwin &lt;<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com" target="_blank">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Let me pose some questions here (and I do so without having yet reviewed the cases noted by Brian
 and Greg).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">PDDRP was created to provide a mechanism by which a trademark holder (or possibly holders, in a consolidated
 action) could allege that a particular registry was directly responsible for infringement through its proactive conduct of either running a registry identical to a trademark in an infringing manner; or actively encouraging registrants at any gTLD (regardless
 of whether it matched a mark at the top level) to register infringing domains.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I believe that the cases referenced below deal with conduct beyond that for which the PDDRP was designed
 to address, and deal with whether an intermediary (ISPs and web-based businesses in the cases, &nbsp;registries for our purposes) had a duty to at least not to turn a blind eye to ongoing infringement, and perhaps even to actively monitor activity in the space
 they controlled and intervene against it when found.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">If I am correct on that then it is being suggested that we consider an expansion of the type of
 conduct meant to be addressed by the PDDRP.</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> I’m not against considering that, but just want to be clear that this is the logical outcome of reviewing these cases.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">As a matter of history, why was the PDDRP limited to the defined types of bad conduct and, in particular,
 why was willful blindness excluded?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Finally, it seems to me that if we are to discuss any possible expansion of the scope of registry
 conduct against which an altered PDDRP might be directed them we have a responsibility to identify actual significant infringing conduct &nbsp;occurring at some number of new registries, and to date I have not seen any documentation for that proposition. So if
 the evidence is there those who have it should disseminate it while this discussion is still open.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 16, 2016 9:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Beckham, Brian<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Wiki page for information and documents on the TM-PDDRP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">In a similar vein to Brian's post, another very recent case relating to intermediary liability is
<i>BMG Rights Management v. Cox Communications</i>&nbsp;(Eastern District of Virginia Aug. 8 2016).&nbsp; The opinion can be found here&nbsp;<a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3009452-BMGvCox.html" target="_blank">https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3009452-BMGvCox.html</a>
 and a discussion of the case can be found here&nbsp;<a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/judge-upholds-25-million-judgment-918429" target="_blank">http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/judge-upholds-25-million-judgment-918429</a>.&nbsp; The court was
 quite critical of Cox's practices in dealing with abuse complaints and notifications, and I think might provide a counterpoint to the Tiffany v. Ebay case, or at least a different perspective on different facts.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Beckham, Brian &lt;<a href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int" target="_blank">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Many thanks Mary, Jeff, and others contributing to this conversation.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Further to the various email and phone discussions on the Trademark-PDDRP standard and below call for information,
 it may be worth recording a somewhat recent England and Wales Court of Appeals decision (<i>Cartier et al vs Sky et al</i>) exploring the contours of intermediary responsibility (in that case as to ISPs) vis-à-vis trademark owner requests to block known trademark-infringing
 websites (in that case involving counterfeits).&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Of course it remains for the Working Group to consider the possibility of assessing whether the current Trademark-PDDRP,
 coupled with the Registry‑Registrar-Registrant web of ICANN contracts, reflects how one court has recently viewed such related topic and the respective actors’ responsibilities.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">A short summary of that case including the threshold conditions for a “blocking order” and additional criteria relating
 to the requested relief is available here:&nbsp; <a href="https://www.rpc.co.uk/perspectives/ip/isps-appeal-is-blocked" target="_blank">
https://www.rpc.co.uk/perspectives/ip/isps-appeal-is-blocked</a>.&nbsp; The case itself can be found at:&nbsp;
<a href="http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2016/658.html" target="_blank">http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2016/658.html</a>.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Another case that may be worth recording here is the United States District Court for the Southern District of New
 York<i> Tiffany vs eBay</i> case, also discussing the contours of intermediary responsibility, and available at: &nbsp;<a href="https://www.eff.org/files/filenode/tiffany_v_ebay/tiffany-v-ebay-dct.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.eff.org/files/filenode/tiffany_v_ebay/tiffany-v-ebay-dct.pdf</a>.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Of note, in the eBay case, the court noted that: &nbsp;“eBay has made substantial investments in anti-counterfeiting initiatives.&nbsp;
 eBay has invested as much as $20 million each year on tools to promote trust and safety on its website.&nbsp; More than 200 of [eBay’s employees] focus exclusively on combating infringement, at a significant cost to eBay.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mary Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rpm-wg] Wiki page for information and documents on the TM-PDDRP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Based on the extensive list supplied by Jeff and ongoing staff collation of relevant materials, we have created a page on the Working Group wiki space that contains links to all
 the materials we have collected so far: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/ugqsAw" target="_blank">
https://community.icann.org/x/ugqsAw</a>. You will see that the page currently includes all prior versions of the TM-PDDRP and links to relevant public comment forums as well as ICANN summaries, which we hope will be useful for documenting the substantive and
 procedural discussions that took place from the time that the 2009 Implementation Recommendations Team (IRT) proposed such a mechanism up to the adoption of the final TM-PDDRP Procedure in 2012.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We hope to create similar pages for the other RPMs as the Working Group moves along with its work, beginning with the TMCH. Please feel free to send us information, documents and
 materials that you have or know of so that we can post them and, if needed, locate and upload them to the relevant page(s).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks and cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Mary<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Mary Wong</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="color:black">&lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Mary Wong &lt;<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 17:37<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Materials on Willful Blindness / PDDRP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks very much for the links and materials, Jeff – staff will add them to the Working Group wiki space. As staff has also been trying to locate historical information relating
 to the development of the various RPMs we are reviewing in this Working Group, we would like to invite Working Group members to send on similar information so that we can continue to compile a useful bibliography, including (when the time comes) for the other
 RPMs. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Regarding the TM-PDDRP, Working Group members may in addition be interested in seeing all the community comments that were provided in response to a public comment opportunity on
 the TM-PDDRP in early 2010: <a href="https://forum.icann.org/lists/ppdrp-15feb10/threads.html" target="_blank">
https://forum.icann.org/lists/ppdrp-15feb10/threads.html</a> (Jeff has already included links to a few, and to the staff analysis of those comments).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We are truly grateful for the tremendous depth of expertise in this Working Group. While staff may be able to find and collate a certain amount of material, being able to leverage
 your knowledge and memories is invaluable. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks and cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Mary<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Mary Wong</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="tel:%2B1-603-5744889" target="_blank">&#43;1-603-5744889</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="color:black">&lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt; on behalf of Jeff Neuman &lt;<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" target="_blank">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 16:36<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[gnso-rpm-wg] Materials on Willful Blindness / PDDRP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I just want to restate my point that I made on the call today.&nbsp; I believe our job is not to rehash discussions that took place in 2008-2012 on the rights protection mechanisms.&nbsp;
 Rather I believe our job is to assess whether any changes to the RPMs (or additions to the RPMs) need to be made based on actual evidence.&nbsp; In my
<u>personal</u> opinion (not of my company or any client), a person proposing changes to the policies or processes should have the burden showing good cause as to why those change should be made.&nbsp; Absent a showing of that good cause, I do not believe we should
 make the changes.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On the call (and the chat) Lori (from INTA) and Susan K.(from Facebook) stated that they had filed concerns with ICANN on certain registry practices and the failure of ICANN to
 address them or the inapplicability of the existing RPMs to cover those activities.&nbsp; I believe we should be looking at those concerns (as well as any other issues that are brought forward), evaluate whether any of them could (or should) have been brought under
 the existing RPMs, why they were not, and whether we should address them by changing an existing RPM or even adding a new one.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Discussions on the PDDRP thus far have focused on what theoretical changes we can make to the PDDRP to “make it better” without any evidence being evaluated by the group on whether
 or not there is a need to “make it better.”&nbsp; One of those proposals contemplates adding a willful blindness standard to the PDDRP without any showing that such a lower standard is necessary or whether there is any activity going on now (or in the past) that
 would fall under that lower standard necessitating a change to the policy.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Absent any evidence showing good cause to change the policy to include willful blindness, the policy should not change.&nbsp; In fact, this issue was HEAVILY discussed and argued in
 2010-2011. Ultimately, ICANN decided that the PDDRP should not include a willful blindness standard.&nbsp; I have included just some of the comments that were filed by WIPO, myself, the Registries, Neustar and others on this Issue including ICANN’s analysis.&nbsp; There
 were other proponents of willful blindness other than WIPO (including I believe MARQUES, INTA and other IP organizations.&nbsp; I believe that this was even supported by the governments during the Board-GAC consultations.&nbsp; I know I do not have them all on here.&nbsp;
 But at the end of the day, this was not accepted.<o:p></o:p></p>
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The point is that we should not be rehashing these old arguments.&nbsp; Our RPM PDP should not a “second bite at the apple”.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Here is a start for collecting the discussions that have already taken place:<br>
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WIPO Proposal:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><a href="https://forum.icann.org/lists/ppdrp-15feb10/pdfkYQ1rYb8Ni.pdf" target="_blank">https://forum.icann.org/lists/ppdrp-15feb10/pdfkYQ1rYb8Ni.pdf</a> (March 2010)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><a href="https://forum.icann.org/lists/4gtld-base/pdfjIZkXr0Dc2.pdf" target="_blank">https://forum.icann.org/lists/4gtld-base/pdfjIZkXr0Dc2.pdf</a> (June 2010)
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><a href="https://forum.icann.org/lists/5gtld-base/pdf0nS63XScIt.pdf" target="_blank">https://forum.icann.org/lists/5gtld-base/pdf0nS63XScIt.pdf</a> (December 2010)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Circle ID Articles<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/say_no_to_wipos_proposal_to_amend_the_pddrp_to_create_new_law/" target="_blank">http://www.circleid.com/posts/say_no_to_wipos_proposal_to_amend_the_pddrp_to_create_new_law/</a> (May 5, 2010)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">ICANN Analysis:&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><a href="https://archive.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/pddrp-comment-summary-and-analysis-28may10-en.pdf" target="_blank">https://archive.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/pddrp-comment-summary-and-analysis-28may10-en.pdf</a> (also has info on contract compliance)
 (May 2010)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Symbol">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><a href="https://archive.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/summary-analysis-agv4-12nov10-en.pdf" target="_blank">https://archive.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/summary-analysis-agv4-12nov10-en.pdf</a> (November 2010) - Pg 118<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">ICANN PDDRP (Revised May 2010):&nbsp;
<a href="https://archive.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/pddrp-clean-28may10-en.pdf" target="_blank">
https://archive.icann.org/en/topics/new-gtlds/pddrp-clean-28may10-en.pdf</a> (Introduction addresses “The procedure is not intended to hold liable a registry operator that simply happens to have or knows of infringing domain names within its gTLD. Affirmative
 conduct is required.”)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">RYSG Statement to WIPO Proposal:&nbsp;
<a href="https://forum.icann.org/lists/4gtld-base/docLoFbNFb2jb.doc" target="_blank">
https://forum.icann.org/lists/4gtld-base/docLoFbNFb2jb.doc</a>&nbsp; (June 2010)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Neustar position:&nbsp;
<a href="https://forum.icann.org/lists/4gtld-guide/pdf6T19n10mO4.pdf" target="_blank">
https://forum.icann.org/lists/4gtld-guide/pdf6T19n10mO4.pdf</a> (July 2010)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#0F9347">Jeffrey J. Neuman</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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