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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think this kind of abuses should be solved by doing some changes in the rules of UDRP and URS. Meanwhile the arbitrators should be informed and educated about this new line of cases that can damage the reputation of the real trademarks. I believe that the IPC have a good possibility here to have a more active role to educate the arbitrators of NAF, WIPO, etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hector <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES-AR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Héctor Ariel Manoff<br><b>Vitale, Manoff & Feilbogen<br></b>Viamonte 1145 10º Piso<br>C1053ABW Buenos Aires<br>República Argentina<br>Te: (54-11) 4371-6100<br>Fax: (54-11) 4371-6365<br>E-mail: </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:amanoff@vmf.com.ar"><span lang=ES-AR style='color:black'>amanoff@vmf.com.ar</span></a></span><span lang=ES-AR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Web: <a href="http://www.vmf.com.ar/"><span style='color:black'>http://www.vmf.com.ar</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES-AR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>****************************************************************************************************************************************************<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES-AR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Esta comunicación tiene como destinatario a la persona o empresa a la cual está dirigida y puede contener información confidencial y reservada. 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Tricky topic in ICANNland for sure, especially these days.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Best to all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Paul D. McGrady, Jr.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">policy@paulmcgrady.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Edward Morris<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 19, 2016 6:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Questionable UDRPs & TM applications<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Excellent point, Phil.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><br>On 20 Aug 2016, at 00:49, Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This suggests to me that all trademarks are not created equal, and that when we reach our UDRP work we may wish to address the issue of whether a certain quality of trademark should be required for filing a UDRP.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:navy'>Philip S. 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In some cases I am very familiar with the patterns - as in how relatively established website owners try to game the system - concrete ways.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US>This is a major problem in certain countries of Europe (eastern block) and outside Europe (countries like Tunisia let's say) where you can theoretically register any trademark even if it is not necessarily distinctive, special nor recognizable. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>On 20 Aug 2016 00:15, Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es">Paul@law.es</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>This and comments such as George's should not be lost. These comments need to be retained and specifically addressed during the UDRP portion of the WG.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Emil <<a href="mailto:emil@cv.ro">emil@cv.ro</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Friday, August 19, 2016 4:30 PM<br><b>To: </b>George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com">icann@leap.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b><<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Questionable UDRPs & TM applications</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>George, often TM registrations are granted on bogus or strange claims. For example Christian Louboutin was granted a TM for red shoes outsole. By this logic BMW could be granted a TM for silver cars.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>In the domain world:<br>There is a car rental company called <a href="http://economycarrentals.com">economycarrentals.com</a>. They tried to obtain a TM at European level for "economy car rentals", a super generic term used by thousands of rental agencies. Why? So that they can claim <a href="http://economyrentacar.com">economyrentacar.com</a> and <a href="http://economyrentalcars.com">economyrentalcars.com</a> in WIPO - the EMD of their main competitor.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>They were refused (now twice) an EM Europe Wide trademark for lack of distinctiveness but went on and tried at country level. A handfull of countries allowed them to register a word (not figurative) trademark on "economy car rentals" a dictionary super generic formulation. 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