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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>While I think this subject is several months premature, and I don’t want to wade in on the substance at this time, we should note that what is being suggested here is that ICANN give preference to certain national trademark regimes and disregard others. Tricky topic in ICANNland for sure, especially these days.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Best to all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Paul D. McGrady, Jr.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>policy@paulmcgrady.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Edward Morris<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 19, 2016 6:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com><br><b>Cc:</b> gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Questionable UDRPs & TM applications<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Excellent point, Phil.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 20 Aug 2016, at 00:49, Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>This suggests to me that all trademarks are not created equal, and that when we reach our UDRP work we may wish to address the issue of whether a certain quality of trademark should be required for filing a UDRP.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>Virtualaw LLC</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>1155 F Street, NW</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>Suite 1050</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>Washington, DC 20004</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>202-559-8597/Direct</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>202-559-8750/Fax</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>202-255-6172/Cell</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>Twitter: @VlawDC</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Emil<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 19, 2016 5:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> Paul Keating<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Questionable UDRPs & TM applications</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Paul, thank you for appreciating my concern.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I am very pleased to see that I can bring value in this exclusive community of professionals.<o:p></o:p></p><p>In the last 12 years I've seen a lot of cases where legitimate SMEs get bullied with the "we'll get your domain" threat based on abusive TM registrations, mostly postdating the domain name registration dates. In some cases I am very familiar with the patterns - as in how relatively established website owners try to game the system - concrete ways.<o:p></o:p></p><p>This is a major problem in certain countries of Europe (eastern block) and outside Europe (countries like Tunisia let's say) where you can theoretically register any trademark even if it is not necessarily distinctive, special nor recognizable. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 20 Aug 2016 00:15, Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es">Paul@law.es</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>This and comments such as George's should not be lost. These comments need to be retained and specifically addressed during the UDRP portion of the WG.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Emil <<a href="mailto:emil@cv.ro">emil@cv.ro</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Friday, August 19, 2016 4:30 PM<br><b>To: </b>George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com">icann@leap.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b><<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Questionable UDRPs & TM applications</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>George, often TM registrations are granted on bogus or strange claims. For example Christian Louboutin was granted a TM for red shoes outsole. By this logic BMW could be granted a TM for silver cars.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>In the domain world:<br>There is a car rental company called <a href="http://economycarrentals.com">economycarrentals.com</a>. They tried to obtain a TM at European level for "economy car rentals", a super generic term used by thousands of rental agencies. Why? So that they can claim <a href="http://economyrentacar.com">economyrentacar.com</a> and <a href="http://economyrentalcars.com">economyrentalcars.com</a> in WIPO - the EMD of their main competitor.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>They were refused (now twice) an EM Europe Wide trademark for lack of distinctiveness but went on and tried at country level. A handfull of countries allowed them to register a word (not figurative) trademark on "economy car rentals" a dictionary super generic formulation. Now they will threaten & hussle with a WIPO arbitration all the local TLD owners for those particular countries. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Emil</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________ gnso-rpm-wg mailing list <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 2016.0.7752 / Virus Database: 4633/12811 - Release Date: 08/15/16<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>gnso-rpm-wg mailing list<br><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>