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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="color:#1F497D">We also need to look at examples out there where it is not just premium pricing of domains, but there was at least one case (.feedback) that said if you are a trademark owner (whether
or not purchased in the Sunrise or after), the price is $X, but if you are not the trademark owner, then your price is $Y, where $Y was thousands of dollars less.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">See: </span><a href="http://domainincite.com/19560-forget-sucks-feedback-will-drive-trademark-owners-nuts-all-over-again">http://domainincite.com/19560-forget-sucks-feedback-will-drive-trademark-owners-nuts-all-over-again</a><span style="color:#1F497D">
and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"></span><a href="http://domainincite.com/19615-feedback-regs-fox-trademark-to-itself-during-sunrise">http://domainincite.com/19615-feedback-regs-fox-trademark-to-itself-during-sunrise</a><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I believe the policies of .sucks and .feedback need to be discussed. It is one thing to have premium pricing on a name whereby any purchaser of the name would have to pay the same price (even if high); but,
it is another thing to have different prices for a name depending on who the purchaser is (discrimination amongst purchasers). That I do believe is in our scope.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Corwin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 23, 2016 12:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rebecca Tushnet <rlt26@law.georgetown.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] TMCH review objectives<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">“If post-Sunrise registrations of expensive domain names have led to infringement, I hope we will be able to collect evidence of that.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Agreed that we should seek this type of data, certainly anecdotal and more comprehensive if available.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy">Twitter: @VlawDC</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy">"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey</span></i></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Rebecca Tushnet [<a href="mailto:rlt26@law.georgetown.edu">mailto:rlt26@law.georgetown.edu</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 23, 2016 12:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Phil Corwin<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Silver, Bradley; <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: TMCH review objectives<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And is the additional system cost (one component of effectiveness) of individualized review of pricing worth this hypothetical increased risk of later infringement? If post-Sunrise registrations of expensive domain names have led to infringement,
I hope we will be able to collect evidence of that. Likewise with the hypothetical effect of encountering an unregistered domain in a new gTLD. In an age of search engines, I thought we had gotten past the idea that a consumer would type in a domain name and
then give up if no website, or a nonconfusing but non-trademark owner website, resolves. I also highly doubt there's evidence that consumers think less of a trademark owner for not registering every variation. <br>
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Rebecca Tushnet <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Georgetown Law<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my phone. Apologies for terseness/typos. <o:p></o:p></p>
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On Sep 23, 2016, at 11:39 AM, Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I believe I just addressed that question in the email I posted – if unreasonably high sunrise pricing deters a rights holder from registering a domain corresponding to a verified TM registered in the TMCH then
it may be registered in the general availability period by an infringer, which in turn imposes a variety of costs on the TM owner (including those of bringing a subsequent URS, UDRP, or judicial action) and also creates the possibility of confusion and harm
for the general public.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This is not to say that all Premium pricing is unreasonable, as it is generally recognized that certain words and terms have inherent additional value in the DNS context – it really requires a case by case analysis.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy">Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy">Virtualaw LLC</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy">Washington, DC 20004</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy">202-559-8597/Direct</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy">Twitter: @VlawDC</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy">"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rebecca Tushnet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 23, 2016 11:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Silver, Bradley; <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] TMCH review objectives</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">TMCH’s goal of “protection” against
<i>what</i>, though? How does high pricing contribute to trademark infringement? High pricing may deter purchases of domain names, no doubt, but with what result for the system overall?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Rebecca Tushnet</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Georgetown Law</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">703 593 6759</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Silver, Bradley [<a href="mailto:Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com">mailto:Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 23, 2016 11:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rebecca Tushnet; <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: TMCH review objectives</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I would add that the question of pricing feeds into the concept of effectiveness, because if the TMCH is serving as a database for registries to target brand owners for higher pricing based on the value of their
brands, then this is antithetical to the TMCH’s primary goal to provide protection for verified right holders. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rebecca Tushnet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 23, 2016 10:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rpm-wg] TMCH review objectives</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hello, all. </span>On the last WG call, concerns about pricing of domain names during the Sunrise Period arose. This led to a question of whether pricing is within the remit of this WG – and the broader question
of what the purpose of our TMCH review is. There seemed to be a desire to focus on the TMCH’s effectiveness. The predicate question, then, is: effectiveness at what? Here are some suggestions for discussion: (1) minimizing the cost of operating the system
for all concerned; (2) minimizing the number of actions that ultimately need to be brought against infringing registrants; (3) minimizing the number of noninfringing registrants whose legitimate uses are blocked or deterred. If the system is reasonably balancing
those objectives, I suggest, then it is effective; potential changes should be directly related to improving performance on one or more of these metrics without unduly hampering the others.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Yours,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Rebecca Tushnet</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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