<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 22px;"><br></span></div><div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" style="font-size: 22px;">Steve,</font></div><div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" style="font-size: 22px;"><br></font></div><div><span style="font-size: 22px;">Thanks for the comments. I always enjoy our thought provoking conversations..</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 22px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 22px;">First, gouging is not equivalent to a violation of any legal right. The rights holder remains free not to purchase at the gouging price and instead rely upon curative rights. It is an economic decision as to which costs more.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 22px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 22px;">Just because the domain could potentially be used in an infringing manner is insufficient. That amounts to a “preemptive” (not preventative - my error below) restriction. This is a prior restraint imposed in advance of the factual situation that MAY otherwise justify restraint. The prior nature of the restraint is what I am objecting to. IF (and I say IF) the use becomes infringing, THEN (and only then) do curative rights come into play.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 22px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 22px;">Second, with the swatch.watch example, the rights holder has ample curative rights.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 22px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 22px;">More importantly, we must prepare our report and recommendations at the 50,000 foot level. We cannot draft suggestions based upon unique factual situations. That is the panelists job in the curative process (UDRP/URS).</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 22px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 22px;">Be well.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 22px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 22px;">Paul</span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 22px;"><div style="font-family: Calibri; text-align: left; color: black; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Steve Levy <<a href="mailto:slevy@accentlawgroup.com">slevy@accentlawgroup.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Friday, September 23, 2016 at 6:08 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>>, Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>>, Rebecca Tushnet <<a href="mailto:rlt26@law.georgetown.edu">rlt26@law.georgetown.edu</a>>, "Silver, Bradley" <<a href="mailto:Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com">Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] TMCH review objectives<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="border-left-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-left-width: 5px; border-left-style: solid; padding: 0px 0px 0px 5px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 5px;"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div>Thanks for your comment, Paul. If a domain consists of a generic term with no other content that implicates the brand, in most cases I would agree that the registry can sell it as it sees fit. However, if other terms clearly implicate the brand then
I’d say the registry is simply gouging. For example, swatch.xyz has the potential to be used by someone in the fabric business and any future improper use (ex. hosting a website featuring Timex watches) could be dealt with through the UDRP. However, if the
domain is swatch.watch I don’t see how a registry could claim that this implicates anything other than the wristwatch trademark. As such, gouge pricing would be improper as a transparent attempt to profit from the brand and the debate of whether this is a
preventative or curative right becomes academic.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Steve</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family: Calibri; text-align: left; color: black; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es">Paul@law.es</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Friday, September 23, 2016 at 12:04 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>>, Rebecca Tushnet <<a href="mailto:rlt26@law.georgetown.edu">rlt26@law.georgetown.edu</a>>, "Silver, Bradley" <<a href="mailto:Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com">Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] TMCH review objectives<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div>Phil,</div><div><br></div><div>In furtherance to my last email responding to Mr. Levy, even an unreasonably priced domain is not infringing. It is important that we not mix up the concepts at issue. We are discussing both “preventative rights: and “curative rights”. The preventative
rights mechanism should be severely limited because it acts as a restraint of market tendencies in the absence of actual infringement. Imposing preventative measures is akin to imposing a “prior restraint” which (certainly in the area of speech) is disfavored
as a matter of public policy. The curative rights mechanism is the 2nd tool which permits rights holders to rectify an infringement that has actually occurred.</div><div><br></div><div>Rights holders already have the ability to pursue legal claims against a registry who is intentionally targeting them by restricting access to domains other than by way of exorbitant pricing. The hurdles that the rights holders must overcome to succeed
on such claims are understandably high – just as they are with any other claimant faced with a similar situation in a non-domain-related situation. However, such is life. It is not our place to alter the legal environment and create contractually-based claims
that do not already exist in the law.</div><div><br></div><div>I believe this was the import of the comment made during the last call asking to differentiate economic costs from “rights”.</div><div><br></div><div><div><div style="font-family: Calibri;"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Paul Raynor Keating, Esq.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="http://law.es/" style="color: purple; ">Law.es</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Tel. +34 93 368 0247 (Spain)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Tel. +44.7531.400.177 (UK)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">Tel. +1.415.937.0846 (US)</span></b></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Fax. (Europe) +34 93 396 0810<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Fax. (US)(415) 358.4450<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Skype: Prk-Spain<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">email: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: blue;"><a href="mailto:Paul@law.es" style="color: purple; ">Paul@law.es</a></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL IS CONFIDENTIAL AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION SUBJECT TO THE ATTORNEY/CLIENT OR WORK-PRODUCT PRIVILEGE. THE INFORMATION IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF
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<<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] TMCH review objectives<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="border-left-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-left-width: 5px; border-left-style: solid; padding: 0px 0px 0px 5px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 5px;"><div xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I believe I just addressed that question in the email I posted – if unreasonably high sunrise pricing deters a rights holder from registering a domain corresponding to a verified TM registered in the TMCH then
it may be registered in the general availability period by an infringer, which in turn imposes a variety of costs on the TM owner (including those of bringing a subsequent URS, UDRP, or judicial action) and also creates the possibility of confusion and harm
for the general public.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This is not to say that all Premium pricing is unreasonable, as it is generally recognized that certain words and terms have inherent additional value in the DNS context – it really requires a case by case analysis.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy;">Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy;">Virtualaw LLC</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy;">1155 F Street, NW</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy;">Suite 1050</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy;">Washington, DC 20004</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy;">202-559-8597/Direct</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy;">202-559-8750/Fax</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy;">202-255-6172/Cell</span></b><b><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: navy;"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy;">Twitter: @VlawDC</span></b><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy;">"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey</span></i></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rebecca Tushnet<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 23, 2016 11:10 AM<br><b>To:</b> Silver, Bradley; <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] TMCH review objectives<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="color:#1F497D">TMCH’s goal of “protection” against
<i>what</i>, though? How does high pricing contribute to trademark infringement? High pricing may deter purchases of domain names, no doubt, but with what result for the system overall?</span></a><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Rebecca Tushnet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Georgetown Law<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">703 593 6759<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> Silver, Bradley [<a href="mailto:Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com">mailto:Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com</a>]
<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 23, 2016 11:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> Rebecca Tushnet; <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: TMCH review objectives<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I would add that the question of pricing feeds into the concept of effectiveness, because if the TMCH is serving as a database for registries to target brand owners for higher pricing based on the value of their
brands, then this is antithetical to the TMCH’s primary goal to provide protection for verified right holders. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rebecca Tushnet<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 23, 2016 10:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rpm-wg] TMCH review objectives<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hello, all. </span>On the last WG call, concerns about pricing of domain names during the Sunrise Period arose. This led to a question of whether pricing is within the remit of this WG – and the broader question
of what the purpose of our TMCH review is. There seemed to be a desire to focus on the TMCH’s effectiveness. The predicate question, then, is: effectiveness at what? Here are some suggestions for discussion: (1) minimizing the cost of operating the system
for all concerned; (2) minimizing the number of actions that ultimately need to be brought against infringing registrants; (3) minimizing the number of noninfringing registrants whose legitimate uses are blocked or deterred. If the system is reasonably balancing
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