<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Volker</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Granted that Is correct but that is the result of a marketing decision taken long ago by the trademark holder. I'm not sure we should be considering global policies to counter the impact of that long ago decision. <br><br>Sincerely,<div>Paul Keating, Esq.</div></div><div><br>On Sep 26, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p>And even with this famous name, there is a wikipedia
disambiguation page of over half a dozen other uses which may have
something to do with this famous mark originally being the name of
a Greek Goddess personifying victory. ;-)</p>
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<div>With all due respect when will “protection” find its limits.
Just because the right to use something is high does not equate
with a denial of rights. Unless a domain name is subject to
only one passible use (that of the brand owner) and no other
uses, then it remains an asset of the registry to sell as it
deems fit. If the brand owner – who is only one of a number of
users – is unable to afford the price, such is life. AND when I
say one possible use I really mean it. The name would not only
have to be coined but famous. A coined term is one that was
invented but history teaches that inventions are not unique.
They are often repeated. A famous mark is one that transcends
use and extents to completely unrelated commercial monetization.
An example – one of the few I can think of - would be NIKE.</div>
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<div>Lets stay focussed and reasonable please. Just because
something is expensive does not equate to something that
infringes.</div>
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<div>I’d also like to add my view that “protection” can
take a number of different forms. Stopping someone
from infringing upon one’s trademark is the most
obvious one but protecting brand owners from having
their trademarks held for ransom at an unreasonably
high premium price is another. If, for example,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I
believe I just addressed that question in the
email I posted – if unreasonably high sunrise
pricing deters a rights holder from
registering a domain corresponding to a
verified TM registered in the TMCH then it may
be registered in the general availability
period by an infringer, which in turn imposes
a variety of costs on the TM owner (including
those of bringing a subsequent URS, UDRP, or
judicial action) and also creates the
possibility of confusion and harm for the
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unreasonable, as it is generally recognized
that certain words and terms have inherent
additional value in the DNS context – it
really requires a case by case analysis.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rebecca Tushnet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 23, 2016
11:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Silver, Bradley; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] TMCH
review objectives<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true" name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="color:#1F497D">TMCH’s goal of
“protection” against
<i>what</i>, though? How does high pricing
contribute to trademark infringement? High
pricing may deter purchases of domain names,
no doubt, but with what result for the
system overall?</span></a><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Rebecca
Tushnet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Georgetown
Law<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">703
593 6759<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;"> Silver, Bradley [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com">mailto:Bradley.Silver@timewarner.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 23, 2016
11:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rebecca Tushnet; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: TMCH review objectives<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I
would add that the question of pricing feeds
into the concept of effectiveness, because if
the TMCH is serving as a database for
registries to target brand owners for higher
pricing based on the value of their brands,
then this is antithetical to the TMCH’s
primary goal to provide protection for
verified right holders. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rebecca Tushnet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 23, 2016
10:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rpm-wg] TMCH review
objectives<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hello,
all. </span>On the last WG call, concerns
about pricing of domain names during the Sunrise
Period arose. This led to a question of whether
pricing is within the remit of this WG – and the
broader question of what the purpose of our TMCH
review is. There seemed to be a desire to focus
on the TMCH’s effectiveness. The predicate
question, then, is: effectiveness at what? Here
are some suggestions for discussion: (1)
minimizing the cost of operating the system for
all concerned; (2) minimizing the number of
actions that ultimately need to be brought
against infringing registrants; (3) minimizing
the number of noninfringing registrants whose
legitimate uses are blocked or deterred. If the
system is reasonably balancing those objectives,
I suggest, then it is effective; potential
changes should be directly related to improving
performance on one or more of these metrics
without unduly hampering the others.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Yours,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Rebecca
Tushnet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Rebecca
Tushnet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Georgetown
Law<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">703
593 6759<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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