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    <p>I thought we learned recently that ICANN is not bound by the
      First Amendment ;-)<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 30.09.2016 um 14:19 schrieb Paul
      McGrady:<br>
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                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>Jeff Neuman<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 30, 2016 5:35 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Reg Levy <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:reg@mmx.co">&lt;reg@mmx.co&gt;</a>; Paul Keating
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Paul@law.es">&lt;Paul@law.es&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] "free speech"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            name="_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
              must admit that I am also confused about our discussions
              on this list about free speech.  I still believe the
              general rule should be that our job is to address actual
              problems that have arisen for which there is evidence of
              such a problem.  So, if there is evidence that free speech
              has been stifled by the new RPMs, lets have that evidence
              pushed forward.  But if there are just philosophical or
              hypothetical arguments, I am confused as to why we are
              having them.<br>
              <br>
              My fear is that some may be taking this opportunity to
              re-argue the entire trademark protection mechanisms that
              we all negotiated in 2009-2012 (and beyond).  I don’t
              believe that is in our remit.</span></a><span
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              lang="EN-GB">Mclean, VA 22102, United States<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              lang="EN-GB">T: +1.703.635.7514<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              lang="EN-GB">@Jintlaw<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Reg Levy<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 29, 2016 5:43 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Paul Keating &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:Paul@law.es">Paul@law.es</a>&gt;<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] "free speech"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">J. Scott said,<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Trademark owners should not
                overreach, true. However, the terms you cite deserve no
                greater scrutiny than any other dictionary term. The
                TMCH has been around for approximately 18 months and I
                have seen no reporting that the marks registered in the
                TMCH have severely hobbled free expression.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                Neue&quot;,serif;color:black">And I
                                agree. The challenge is coming up with a
                                solution that neither allows trademark
                                owners to be taken advantage of nor
                                encourages overreach. “Apple” in all
                                TLDs needn’t be reserved or treated
                                specially, but the TMCH does allow
                                a trademark owner to buy it first. There
                                are some instances where (police.london
                                was a much-touted one) a trademark in
                                conjunction with the TLD means something
                                different enough that it would make no
                                sense to allow the trademark owner first
                                rights. Those are a case-by-case issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                Neue&quot;,serif;color:black">Are we:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                validate the TMCH?<o:p></o:p></li>
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                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
                                level1 lfo3">looking to supplement the
                                TMCH with additional protection
                                for trademark rights?<o:p></o:p></li>
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                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
                                level1 lfo3">expand the TMCH to include
                                non-trademark rights?<o:p></o:p></li>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">We are having a very
                                interesting and far-ranging conversation
                                about free speech and the like, but I’m
                                not clear on the focus that we should be
                                maintaining.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Reg<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica
                                Neue&quot;,serif;color:black">Reg Levy<br>
                                VP Compliance + Policy | Minds
                                + Machines Group Limited<br>
                                C: +1-310-963-7135<br>
                                S: RegLevy2<br>
                                <br>
                                Current UTC offset: -7<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On 29 Sep 2016, at 08:46, Paul
                  Keating &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:Paul@law.es">Paul@law.es</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">The
                        term “free speech” itself is a false deity.  It
                        is all about the protections afforded to speech.
                         While some jurisdictions may go further than
                        others I think taking J. Scott’s comment to mean
                        “speech is not protected” would be a
                        misrepresentation of the situation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Aside
                        from “free speech” there is the closely related
                        concept of fair use.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">And,
                        finally, of course, trademark protection is
                        limited in scope.  It does not act to preclude
                        use of the identical indicator for unrelated
                        goods/services or for purposes which are generic
                        (meaning the thing or its essence) or
                        descriptive (use in describing the thing).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">I
                        think it would serve us best to keep in mind the
                        distinctions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Paul
                        Keating<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:
                        </span></b><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">&lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt;
                        on behalf of Rebecca Tushnet &lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:rlt26@law.georgetown.edu">rlt26@law.georgetown.edu</a>&gt;<br>
                        <b>Date: </b>Thursday, September 29, 2016 at
                        5:31 PM<br>
                        <b>To: </b>Paul McGrady &lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">policy@paulmcgrady.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        <b>Cc: </b>"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>"
                        &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                        <b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] "free speech"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid
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                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">That
                              was the misstatement.  “Most nations don’t
                              have a US-style First Amendment” would
                              have been true.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Rebecca
                                Tushnet</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Georgetown
                                Law</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">703
                                593 6759</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
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                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                                    style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> Paul
                                  McGrady [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com</a>]
                                  <br>
                                  <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 29,
                                  2016 11:29 AM<br>
                                  <b>To:</b> Rebecca Tushnet<br>
                                  <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                                  <b>Subject:</b> RE: [gnso-rpm-wg]
                                  "free speech"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Hi
                              Rebecca,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">What
                              was the misstatement you are trying to
                              correct?  The most related statement that
                              I could find in the Transcript was J.
                              Scott who said “very few jurisdictions in
                              the world have free speech.”  I didn’t see
                              anyone who said “Most nations don’t have a
                              US-style First Amendment.”  In fact, I
                              didn’t see a single reference to the First
                              Amendment in the transcript.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Paul</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Paul
                              D. McGrady, Jr.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">policy@paulmcgrady.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <div style="border:none;border-top:solid
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                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                                  [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rebecca Tushnet<br>
                                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 28,
                                  2016 12:35 PM<br>
                                  <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                                  <b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rpm-wg] "free
                                  speech"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Just
                              to correct a misstatement on the call
                              earlier:  Most nations don’t have a
                              US-style First Amendment.  Most nations
                              with a rule of law do, however, recognize
                              freedom of speech in some form, including
                              the right to criticize private companies. 
                              As this Wikipedia entry notes, </span><a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_by_country"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_by_country</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">,
                              implementation can be inconsistent on the
                              ground, but I expect that inconsistent
                              enforcement of trademark rights on the
                              ground doesn’t mean that trademark owners
                              want ICANN to ignore the law on the books;
                              freedom of speech is equally a principle
                              worth honoring.  In addition, I don’t know
                              how many countries whose nationals
                              participate in the ICANN process have
                              signed on to the Universal Declaration of
                              Human Rights, which includes freedom of
                              speech, </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/"><span
                                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">,
                              but I doubt we want to make policy based
                              on the countries that don’t recognize any
                              freedom of speech at all.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Also,
                              you can’t have it both ways: if domain
                              names can facilitate infringement, which
                              they absolutely can, then they convey
                              meaning; if they convey meaning, they can
                              also facilitate noninfringing conduct or
                              affirmatively protected freedom of
                              speech.  It is just as true, or untrue,
                              that a trademark owner can register a
                              different string if it can’t have the one
                              that it wants as it is that a person
                              making fair or otherwise noninfringing use
                              can do so.  This is especially so if we’ve
                              given trademark owners the ability to jump
                              the line in many circumstances.  Freedom
                              of speech principles may help tell us when
                              preclusion of a domain name to a
                              speaker—whether a trademark owner or a
                              non-owner—is of particular importance. 
                              That is, they can help us identify the
                              important false positives (notifications
                              generated in response to domain names that
                              wouldn’t infringe).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Rebecca
                                Tushnet</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Georgetown
                                Law</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">703
                                593 6759</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid
                          #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in
4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
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                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">_______________________________________________
                        gnso-rpm-wg mailing list <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>
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                          href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  </blockquote>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
                  gnso-rpm-wg mailing list<br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
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                    href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</a><o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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