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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As the TMCH guidelines states at. 2.4.1: ”General For marks protected by statute or treaty, the relevant statute or treaty must be in effect at the time
the mark is submitted to the Clearinghouse for inclusion. These marks may include but are not limited to: geographical indications and designations of origin”, we could simply ask in question 10:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">“</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">How many design marks
<span style="color:red">and marks protected by statute or treaty </span>have been submitted and validated? What is your criteria for validating these? How are you differentiating between design marks in the practical application of the TMCH guidelines?
<span style="color:red">Under the marks protected by statute or treaty, how many applicants based their requests on titles such as Geographical Indications (GI), Protected Designation of Origin (PDO) or Appellation of Origin (AO)? <o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Sorry to insist, but many countries (probably the majority) recognize now those as independent IP titles. And I am aware of at least of one TMCH submission
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> J. Scott Evans [mailto:jsevans@adobe.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> 13 December 2016 13:12<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Keating <Paul@law.es>; Massimo Vittori <massimo@origin-gi.com>; Mary Wong <mary.wong@icann.org>; gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR DISCUSSION: Updated TMCH Charter Questions table - 6 December 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Here again, this is where everything starts to break down. A GI, by definition is NOT descriptive but a protected applilation of origin which is protected by International
Treaty. So, no, your proposal will not work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif;color:black"><</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif;color:black">>
on behalf of Paul Keating <</span><a href="mailto:Paul@law.es"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif">Paul@law.es</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 4:08 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Massimo Vittori <</span><a href="mailto:massimo@origin-gi.com"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif">massimo@origin-gi.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif;color:black">>, Mary Wong
<</span><a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif">mary.wong@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif;color:black">>, "</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif;color:black">"
<</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR DISCUSSION: Updated TMCH Charter Questions table - 6 December 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 11:21 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Mary Wong <</span><a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">mary.wong@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>, "</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">"
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR DISCUSSION: Updated TMCH Charter Questions table - 6 December 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">If still possible, in the final set of questions (questions 10 and/or 14), I believe a specific reference to Geographical Indications should be made, to better reflect
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mary Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 06 December 2016 19:33<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR DISCUSSION: Updated TMCH Charter Questions table - 6 December 2016</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear all,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">In response to Phil’s request, staff has updated the previously-circulated table of suggested TMCH Charter Questions with additional suggestions and comments received
from Working Group members up to 1800 UTC today (6 December), which is 24 hours before the Working Group call.
<u>The updated document is attached, and we will plan on using it as the basis for discussion on the Working Group call tomorrow</u>. Please feel free to send any additional thoughts and comments you may have to the Working Group mailing list – while they may
not all be captured in the document, staff will do our best to ensure they are covered during the Working Group’s discussion.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">As we move into discussion and finalization of the proposed TMCH Charter Questions, Working Group members may wish to note that the TMCH Data Gathering Sub Team
had agreed on a list of questions that were sent to the TMCH Providers as well as others that were sent to the Registries and Registrars Stakeholder Groups. In line with their mandate, the Sub Team’s questions are all directed toward obtaining relevant data
on the workings of the TMCH – for purposes of the current discussion, the questions that were directed to the TMCH Providers include questions on design marks and their verification, the handling of cancelled or expired trademarks by the TMCH, and the various
outreach efforts that were undertaken (among others).</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">If you are interested, the final sets of questions that were sent by the TMCH Data Gathering Sub Team to Registries, Registrars and the TMCH Providers can be viewed
here: </span><a href="http://mtrack.me/tracking/raWzMz50paMkCGZmZmpkAmV2ZwpzMKWjqzA2pzSaqaR9AQV0AmH5ZmR2Way2LKu2pG0kZGRkZGZ4ZGpjZR8"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">https://community.icann.org/x/VAmsAw</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks and cheers</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Mary</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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on behalf of Phil Corwin <</span><a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">psc@vlaw-dc.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 23:49<br>
<b>To: </b>John McElwaine <</span><a href="mailto:john.mcelwaine@nelsonmullins.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">john.mcelwaine@nelsonmullins.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>, David Tait <</span><a href="mailto:david.tait@icann.org"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">david.tait@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>,
"</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">" <</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FW: Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks for the feedback, John.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Perhaps it would be best if at this point in the discussion staff would post the current language of the question, so that we can review any specific suggestions
for alteration of its wording.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John McElwaine<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> David Tait; </span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FW: Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The point that Kiran is making is that words such as “generic” mean something. While it is possible to have a dictionary term as a domain name or mark, it is
not possible to have a domain name or mark that is generic, solely because it can be found in the dictionary. An extra step of analysis and investigation is required, which is likely outside the scope of this Working Group’s remit and capabilities and outside
the remit and capabilities of the TMCH.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Legally speaking, generic terms are words that the relevant purchasing public understands primarily as the common or class name for the goods or services. Applying
United States trademark law, determining whether a mark is generic requires the finder of fact to examine (1) the genus of the goods or services at issue; and (2) whether the relevant public understands the applicant's mark/designation
<u>primarily</u> to refer to that genus of services. <i>H. Marvin Ginn Corp. v. International Ass’n of Fire Chiefs, Inc.</i>, 782 F.2d 987, 228 U.S.P.Q. 528, 530 (Fed. Cir. 1986).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">So to determine whether a mark is considered "generic" there must be an initial analysis of whether the mark is a word that is a genus of a quality, feature,
function, or characteristic, but of what? In order to answer the rest of the question, we would be forced to look at the goods or services claimed in the registration or the content and/or stated mission and purpose of the domain name, to make a determination
of genericness. Complicating things, this analysis is not a bright line analysis and there are several nuances to the relatively straight-forward test set forth above. For instance, a word that has been used on a wide range of different types of products
or services that are not within the same species may be less likely to be considered generic.
<i>See 2 J. Thomas McCarthy, McCarthy on Trademarks and Unfair Competition</i> § 12:23 (4th ed. 2009). Moreover, a proper analysis requires an in-depth factual investigation of the relevant public's understanding of the alleged generic term.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As we have discussed on our calls, it is important to be precise in our terminology and for the reasons set forth above, I think we should remove the term “generic”
from our discussions relating to the TMCH and dictionary terms. It would be a large (that may be an understatement) undertaking for this Working Group or the TMCH to make an accurate determination of whether a mark in the TMCH is generic or whether a domain
name registrant (with a mark in the TMCH) intends to use it in a manner that would be considered generic.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Tait<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 06, 2016 5:54 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rpm-wg] FW: Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">At Kathy Kleiman’s request, and to facilitate discussion of this, issue staff is circulating the email below to the full Working Group.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Kind regards,<br>
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David</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Kathy Kleiman <</span><a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kathy@kathykleiman.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday, 4 December 2016 at 19:40<br>
<b>To: </b>Kiran Malancharuvil <</span><a href="mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>, David Tait
<</span><a href="mailto:david.tait@icann.org"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">david.tait@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Mary Wong <</span><a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">mary.wong@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>, Susan Payne <</span><a href="mailto:susan.payne@valideus.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">susan.payne@valideus.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>,
Edward Morris <</span><a href="mailto:edward.morris@alumni.usc.edu"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">edward.morris@alumni.usc.edu</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>, Phil Corwin <</span><a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">psc@vlaw-dc.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>,
"</span><a href="mailto:Sarahliannec@gmail.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sarahliannec@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">" <</span><a href="mailto:Sarahliannec@gmail.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sarahliannec@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>,
Paul Keating <</span><a href="mailto:paul@law.es"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">paul@law.es</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>, "</span><a href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kurt@kjpritz.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">"
<</span><a href="mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">kurt@kjpritz.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>, "</span><a href="mailto:gpmgroup@gmail.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">gpmgroup@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">"
<</span><a href="mailto:gpmgroup@gmail.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">gpmgroup@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>, "Vaibhav Aggarwal, Group CEO & Founder" <</span><a href="mailto:va@bladebrains.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">va@bladebrains.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>,
Sarah Clayton <</span><a href="mailto:Sarahliannec@gmail.com"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sarahliannec@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:black">I don't think anyone understood why it was legally inappropriate, Kiran. You referenced a discussion that took place a long time ago, and after which there was considerable discussion and disagreement online.
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<p><span style="color:black">One major reference for the definition of "generic words" used in this question is the International Trademark Association. It's Fact Sheet on Trademark Strength references generic words and instructs:
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<p><span style="color:black"> => <strong>"Generic Words</strong>: A generic word or phrase is so inherently descriptive of a product or service or an entire class of products or services as to be incapable of ever functioning as a trademark. Generic
words can be thought of as the common name of the product or service in question—for example, “clock” is a generic word for timepieces. Such words can never be appropriated by a single party as trademarks for the products or services they signify, since the
public perceives and uses them solely as common nouns or terms. Generic words or phrases are not registrable or protectable in relation to the products or services they signify."
</span><a href="http://mtrack.me/tracking/raWzMz50paMkCGZmZmpkAmV2ZwpzMKWjqzA2pzSaqaR9AQV0AmH5ZmR2Way2LKu2pG0kZGRkZGZ4ZGpjZIN">http://www.inta.org/TrademarkBasics/FactSheets/Pages/TrademarkStrengthFactSheet.aspx[inta.org]</a><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">So the question of whether, through the TMCH Database or its associated Rights Protection Mechanisms, is granting protection to a trademark, which also happens to be a generic word (see INTA above), beyond its categories of goods
and services is a fair one. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Besides, there were numerous charter questions on this issue. We can't simply delete it. But if you would like to offer a clearer way to phrase the question, please do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Best, Kathy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Hi David,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">I wasn't able to attend the call on Friday. Can you please explain why Question 10 was marked green for accepted with legally inappropriate terminology?<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Kiran<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Kiran Malancharuvil<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">Policy Counselor<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">415-419-9138 (m)<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">On Dec 4, 2016, at 9:26 AM, David Tait <</span><a href="mailto:david.tait@icann.org">david.tait@icann.org</a><a href="mailto:david.tait@icann.org"><mailto:david.tait@icann.org></a><span style="color:black">> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Dear All<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Following our call on Friday I am pleased to enclose the notes and outcomes from the meeting. Alongside these notes I attach an appropriately updated version of the TMCH Charter Questions document.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">The notes and outcomes are as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">* Q10 - Should be marked green for accepted.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">* Q13 and 14- Proposal to merge Q13+14: "How accessible is the TMCH database and RPM Rights Protection Actions and Defenses to individuals, orgs, trademark owners and trademark agents in developing countries?"<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Proposal to keep question in but report findings to SubPro WG.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">* Q15- (now question 14 in latest draft) Revision agreed to "What concerns are being raised about the TMCH being closed, what are the reasons for having/keeping the TMCH Database private, and should the TMCH Database remain closed or become open?"<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">* Q16- (now question 15 in latest draft) Proposal 1 "Does the present structuring of the TMCH optimize such operational considerations as cost, reliability, global reach, and service diversity and consistency, or should significant changes be considered?"<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Proposal 2 "What are the concerns with the TMCH Database being provided by a single Provider - and how might those concerns be addressed?"<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">Both proposals to go to the Working Group.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Should there be regional service desks if not regional providers?<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">* Q17- (now question 16 in latest draft) Agreed revision: "Are the costs and benefits of the TMCH, for rights holders, for ICANN, for the community, proportionate?"<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">I would also note that further to Mary Wong's email of 1 December 2016 we will now proceed to circulate this updated document to the full Working Group in advance of the next Working Group call on Wednesday. Additionally, we will note that the Sub-Team is expressly seeking the input of the full Working Group on the alternative formulations of Question 16 (this being the only outstanding question not agreed by the Sub-Team).<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">David<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">David A. Tait<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black"><Tabulated Categories - TMCH Questions 2 Dec 2016.docx><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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