<div dir="ltr"><div><span lang="EN-GB">Agreed Brian, however my intention is to re-work the
question as little as possible rather than advocate for or against its flawed
or otherwise contentions at this consideration of questions stage.<br><br>Best regards, Paul</span><br></div><div><span lang="EN-GB"></span><span lang="EN-GB"></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Beckham, Brian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int" target="_blank">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Paul,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">It seems that your question speaks to the eligibility criteria for a particular TLD operator (whether in sunrise or thereafter), not to the TMCH – which again is meant to be
a central repository on which registries/RPMs can draw. In that case, also noting the broader RPM and TMCH policy development history, again we must be mindful to avoid the TMCH being in a position of
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">“rendering a decision” on a previously-obtained valid trademark registration. </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">As to the information from Mr. Kirikos, these ccTLD-specific colloquial uses of the term “generic”, notably in the context of respondent defenses, are occurring (as applied
to this context) downstream from the TMCH. In other words, we should avoid crafting (restrictive) rules for the TMCH which may already prejudge a particular legal application (here, in the dispute resolution context), but should allow sufficient flexibility
for panel assessment of the potential applicability of arguments about the strength of a particular mark in the dispute resolution process itself.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Brian<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class="">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#003399">Brian Beckham</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">
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</span><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Tattersfield<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Keating<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><span class=""><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FW: Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="m_2452550983134311782gmail-msoplaintext"><span lang="EN-GB">Would this wording get to the root of the issue without the contention perhaps?
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<p class="m_2452550983134311782gmail-msoplaintext"><span lang="EN-GB">Should the scope of the TMCH be limited to apply only to the categories of goods and services in which the words within a trademark can enjoy protection? If so, how?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_2452550983134311782gmail-msoplaintext"><span lang="EN-GB">Yours sincerely,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_2452550983134311782gmail-msoplaintext"><span lang="EN-GB">Paul</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es" target="_blank">Paul@law.es</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But it does show that it is not so much rocket science.<br>
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On 12/12/16, 10:11 PM, "J. Scott Evans" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> on<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">behalf of <a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com" target="_blank">jsevans@adobe.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>That don¹t make it right.<br>
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>J. Scott Evans | Associate General Counsel - Trademarks, Copyright,<br>
>Domains & Marketing |<br>
>Adobe<br>
>345 Park Avenue<br>
>San Jose, CA 95110<br>
><a href="tel:408.536.5336" target="_blank">408.536.5336</a> (tel), <a href="tel:408.709.6162" target="_blank">408.709.6162</a> (cell)<br>
><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com" target="_blank">jsevans@adobe.com</a><br>
><a href="http://www.adobe.com" target="_blank">www.adobe.com</a><br>
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>On 12/12/16, 10:04 AM, "<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> on behalf of George<br>
>Kirikos" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> on behalf of
<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com" target="_blank">icann@leap.com</a>><br>
>wrote:<br>
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>>FYI, re: "generic", both the .uk and the .nz dispute policies<br>
>>reference "generic" domain names, see:<br>
>><br>
>>.uk:<br>
>><a href="http://nominet-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Final-pro" target="_blank">http://nominet-prod.s3.<wbr>amazonaws.com/wp-content/<wbr>uploads/2016/08/Final-pro</a><br>
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>>osed-DRS-Policy.pdf<br>
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>>"8.1.2 The Domain Name is generic or descriptive and the Respondent is<br>
>>making fair use of it;"<br>
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>>.nz: <a href="https://www.dnc.org.nz/resource-library/policies/65" target="_blank">
https://www.dnc.org.nz/<wbr>resource-library/policies/65</a><br>
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>>"Generic Term means a word or phrase that is a common name in general<br>
>>public use for a product, service, profession, place or thing. For<br>
>>example: toy; shop; cleaner; lawyers; Wellington; sparkling-wine"<br>
>><br>
>>"6.1.2. The Domain Name is generic or descriptive and the Respondent<br>
>>is making fair use of it in a way which is consistent with its generic<br>
>>or descriptive character;"<br>
>><br>
>>Sincerely,<br>
>><br>
>>George Kirikos<br>
>><a href="tel:416-588-0269" target="_blank">416-588-0269</a><br>
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