<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">On the last point: It seems to me that the very essence of a Geographic Indicator is that the word element is no longer a generic or descriptive term.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg Shatan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 8:49 AM, URS - Uniform Rapid Suspension System - MFSD <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:urs@mfsd.it" target="_blank">urs@mfsd.it</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Just to add a comment to TMCH Charter questions, in particular to Q1 and Q4.<div><br></div><div>In case of a composite mark (word + device) does the validation/verification criteria (guidelines: trademarks accepted where the name of the trademark is reflected in predominant letters and is clearly separable or distinguishable from the device element) provides the TMCH with too wide discretion and subjectivity?</div><div><br></div><div>The issue of the protection and the protection’s extent for trademarks other than word marks should be clarified regarding all RPMs (TMCH, URS, PDDRP). </div><div>While TMCH Guidelines contain provisions on “marks that does not exclusively consist of letters, words, numerals, special characters”, PDDRP (para. 9.2.1) and URS (URS Procedure para. 1.2.6.1) contains the wording “word mark”. With no PDDRP case so far the matter has not arose yet. However, in URS this led to interpretations (see sanofi.xin NAF FA1604001672049 <a href="http://www.adrforum.com/domaindecisions/1672049A.htm" target="_blank">http://www.<wbr>adrforum.com/domaindecisions/<wbr>1672049A.htm</a>; flossy.shoes MFSD 7B10562D <a href="https://urs.mfsd.it/system_data/source_pdf/flossy.shoes.pdf" target="_blank">https://urs.mfsd.it/<wbr>system_data/source_pdf/flossy.<wbr>shoes.pdf</a>).</div><div><br></div><div>Hence, I retain that clarity regarding the RPM’s and, in this particular case, TMCH’s field of protection (meant as inclusion in TMCH and participation in sunrise and claims services) is essential.</div><div><br></div><div>Concerning marks protected under statute or treaty, in particular Geographical Indications and Designations of Origin does the TMCH has a comprehensive list of treaties and statutes protecting GIs or of GIs protected under treaties and statutes? </div><div><br></div><div>Finally how GIs, which are also registered trademarks, consisting in both word and device elements, where the word element might be regarded as generic or descriptive terms, are evaluated? </div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards.</div><div> </div><div>
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>Il giorno 13 dic 2016, alle ore 18:32, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>> ha scritto:</div><br class="m_-3649523119386413201Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div class="m_-3649523119386413201WordSection1" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dear all,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">The proposed agenda for our next Working Group call, scheduled for 14 December at 1700 UTC, is as follows:<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><span>1.<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_-3649523119386413201Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">Roll call (via Adobe Connect/phone bridge only) and updates to Statements of Interest<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><span>2.<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_-3649523119386413201Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">Continue discussion of proposed TMCH Charter questions (see attached document)<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><span>3.<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_-3649523119386413201Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">[If time permits] Review responses received to TMCH Data Gathering Sub Team list of questions sent to New gTLD Registry Operators (see attached)<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><span>4.<span style="font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span class="m_-3649523119386413201Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">Next steps/next meeting<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><u><span style="font-size:11pt">For Agenda Item #2</span></u><span style="font-size:11pt">: the attached document contains updates made by staff based on the Working Group’s discussions on the call last week. It also includes the co-chairs’ proposed compromise language on the “generic terms” issue (Category 3, Question 2) that was circulated to the mailing list earlier today, and a few additional suggestions made to the mailing list since the last call and as of today (13 December).<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><u><span style="font-size:11pt">For Agenda Item #3</span></u><span style="font-size:11pt">: the attached document is a compilation of responses received so far from three registry operators (Public Interest Registry, Donuts, and Afnic) to the list of questions for New gTLD Registry Operators that was prepared by the TMCH Data Gathering Sub Team. Staff will continue to update the document as and when we receive any additional responses from other registries.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thanks and cheers<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt">Mary<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">Mary Wong<u></u><u></u></span></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">Senior Policy Director<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">Email:<span class="m_-3649523119386413201Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">Telephone: <a href="tel:(603)%20574-4889" value="+16035744889" target="_blank">+1-603-5744889</a><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div></div><span id="m_-3649523119386413201cid:D26AA8560087A044B5386F57E3032F67@pexch112.icann.org"><Table of Edited Charter Questions on the TMCH - 13 Dec 2016.docx></span><span id="m_-3649523119386413201cid:1419FB0909F8F640BEDF8585662F77CF@pexch112.icann.org"><Compilation of Registry Responses to TMCH Data Gathering Sub Team.docx></span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none;display:inline!important">____________________<wbr>___________________________</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none;display:inline!important">gnso-rpm-wg mailing list</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline;font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg" style="color:rgb(149,79,114);text-decoration:underline;font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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