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<b>Cc:</b> gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Proposed agenda and documents for RPM Working Group call on 14 December<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",serif;color:black"><<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 8:57 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>URS - Uniform Rapid Suspension System - MFSD <<a href="mailto:urs@mfsd.it">urs@mfsd.it</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 8:49 AM, URS - Uniform Rapid Suspension System - MFSD <<a href="mailto:urs@mfsd.it" target="_blank">urs@mfsd.it</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">In case of a composite mark (word + device) does the validation/verification criteria (guidelines: trademarks accepted where the name of the trademark is reflected
in predominant letters and is clearly separable or distinguishable from the device element) provides the TMCH with too wide discretion and subjectivity?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The issue of the protection and the protection’s extent for trademarks other than word marks should be clarified regarding all RPMs (TMCH, URS, PDDRP). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">While TMCH Guidelines contain provisions on “marks that does not exclusively consist of letters, words, numerals, special characters”, PDDRP (para. 9.2.1) and URS
(URS Procedure para. 1.2.6.1) contains the wording “word mark”. With no PDDRP case so far the matter has not arose yet. However, in URS this led to interpretations (see sanofi.xin NAF FA1604001672049 <a href="http://www.adrforum.com/domaindecisions/1672049A.htm" target="_blank">http://www.adrforum.com/domaindecisions/1672049A.htm</a>;
flossy.shoes MFSD 7B10562D <a href="https://urs.mfsd.it/system_data/source_pdf/flossy.shoes.pdf" target="_blank">https://urs.mfsd.it/system_data/source_pdf/flossy.shoes.pdf</a>).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Concerning marks protected under statute or treaty, in particular Geographical Indications and Designations of Origin does the TMCH has a comprehensive list of treaties
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Finally how GIs, which are also registered trademarks, consisting in both word and device elements, where the word element might be regarded as generic or descriptive
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Il giorno 13 dic 2016, alle ore 18:32, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>> ha scritto:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear all,</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The proposed agenda for our next Working Group call, scheduled for 14 December at 1700 UTC, is as follows:</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">1.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black"> <span class="m-2830957362216973753m-3649523119386413201apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Roll
call (via Adobe Connect/phone bridge only) and updates to Statements of Interest</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">2.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black"> <span class="m-2830957362216973753m-3649523119386413201apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Continue
discussion of proposed TMCH Charter questions (see attached document)</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">3.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black"> <span class="m-2830957362216973753m-3649523119386413201apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">[If
time permits] Review responses received to TMCH Data Gathering Sub Team list of questions sent to New gTLD Registry Operators (see attached)</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">For Agenda Item #2</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">: the attached document contains
updates made by staff based on the Working Group’s discussions on the call last week. It also includes the co-chairs’ proposed compromise language on the “generic terms” issue (Category 3, Question 2) that was circulated to the mailing list earlier today,
and a few additional suggestions made to the mailing list since the last call and as of today (13 December).</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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a compilation of responses received so far from three registry operators (Public Interest Registry, Donuts, and Afnic) to the list of questions for New gTLD Registry Operators that was prepared by the TMCH Data Gathering Sub Team. Staff will continue to update
the document as and when we receive any additional responses from other registries.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks and cheers</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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