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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Pascal and all, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I too have been largely silent on this list, but wanted to weigh in to support Pascal’s input and second J. Scott’s position. The debate about whether trademarks are property, and the question of whether the TMCH should play some sort of adjudicative function are linked by what I see as an effort to delegitimize the rights of IP owners. Trademarks are rights, which are a form of property granted by the government having all the indicia of other things that are traditionally considered property, such: (i) the right to use something exclusively and exclude others; (ii) the right to assign and dispose of the thing – all of which have long been recognized by courts and property scholars as the pillars of property rights. IP is not a license from the government (a form of contractual right?!) – the government grants rights, including property rights. This is not mere nomenclature, this is a question of how we frame what trademark owners have, versus the interests of others. I have seen this debate play out in the copyright context, generally furthered by those who wish to garner support for narrowing the scope of IP. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The TMCH can and should be what its name stands for – a clearing house, not a court house or some other administrative authority. It triggers a notice about the existence of a right. It does not decide who has the superior claim. That is not its job. It can afford to be over-inclusive, because it is not a precise tool. It’s a lighthouse which warns the registrant of potential rocks ahead. If the registrant wishes to proceed, then it does so at its own risk. If it can steer its way around the rocks by determining that APPLE.food is a safe course, then it may do so. If APPLE believes otherwise, it has tools available to press its case. The TMCH has no business deciding ahead of time who should prevail. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Bradley<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pascal Böhner<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 19, 2016 9:28 AM<br><b>To:</b> Paul Keating; J. Scott Evans<br><b>Cc:</b> gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'>Being a newcomer in this WG I followed the discussion in the last weeks with great interest (but silently) and always wondered what would trigger me to post a comment. Here we are:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'>First, I might be wrong, but: is it part of the job of this WG to discuss whether the European Court of Justice (and other courts) are right in protecting a trademark as “property”? As you say, many courts (including the ECJ) have confirmed that and they are right. But I feel that this question has nothing to do with the TMCH or the Charter. Correct? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'>-</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'>That brings me to the second point (in line with Marie’s comment below): irrespective of how you qualify a trademark (property or not), it is not on the TMCH to decide whether existing rights in a trademark are legal. Courts, trademark offices and maybe even arbitration panels deciding a domain name case may do that, but not the TMCH database. The TMCH is not a super trademark examiner.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'>Indeed, we seem to be in the middle of the discussion already (rather than finalizing the Charter Questions documents), and I look very much forward to this discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'>Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'>Pascal<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'><br>Pascal Böhner <br>Rechtsanwalt <br>Fachanwalt für gewerblichen Rechtsschutz <br><br><br></span><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>BARDEHLE<br>PAGENBERG</span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'><br></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'>Pascal Böhner<br>Prinzregentenplatz 7<br>81675 München<br>T +49.(0)89.928 05-0 <br>F +49.(0)89.928 05-444<br><a href="mailto:pascal.boehner@bardehle.de">pascal.boehner@bardehle.de</a> | </span><span lang=DE style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'><a href="http://www.bardehle.com/de/team/detail/p/boehner-pascal-1/vcard.vcf"><span lang=EN-US>vCard</span></a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'> | </span><span lang=DE style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'><a href="http://www.bardehle.com/de/team/detail/person/boehner-pascal-1.html"><span lang=EN-US>Profile</span></a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'><br><a href="http://www.bardehle.com">www.bardehle.com</a><br><br>BARDEHLE PAGENBERG<br>Partnerschaft mbB<br>Patentanwälte Rechtsanwälte<br>Amtsgericht München<br>Partnerschaftsregister 1152<br><br><b>"Law Firm of the Year" </b>2016 for Intellectual Property Law – named by <b><i>Best Lawyers</i></b><sup>®</sup> and <b><i>Handelsblatt<br></i>"TOP-KANZLEI Patentrecht 2015"</b> – awarded by <b><i>WirtschaftsWoche</i></b></span><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='mso-fareast-language:DE'> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Paul Keating<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 19. Dezember 2016 15:01<br><b>An:</b> J. Scott Evans <<a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com">jsevans@adobe.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Sorry to be quippy here but……</span><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>No. You may want it to be but it is merely an exclusive right of use. It is no more than a license granted by the United States (or other) government.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>The trademark crowd has long attempted to include trademarks in the holy confines of IP. Traditionally Intellectual Property was reserved for patents and copyrights – things that required the term. To an extent they have succeeded and there are more than a few courts that have confused things and used the term “property” when discussing trademark rights. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>The same expansive thinking has been bantered about by the copyright industry in speaking of copyrights as a constitutionally guaranteed right. The Constitution grants no such thing. It merely empowers Congress to make laws about…..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>This is an error and I would love the day that we return to the correct reference points. Otherwise we will continue to move down the entitlement path in which everything becomes a “property right”.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='color:black'>From: </span></b><span lang=DE style='color:black'>"J. Scott Evans" <<a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com">jsevans@adobe.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, December 19, 2016 at 9:28 AM<br><b>To: </b>Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>Jonathan Agmon <<a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal">jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal</a>>, Reg Levy <<a href="mailto:reg@mmx.co">reg@mmx.co</a>>, Marie Pattullo <<a href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>>, "John C. McElwaine" <<a href="mailto:john.mcelwaine@nelsonmullins.com">john.mcelwaine@nelsonmullins.com</a>>, Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>>, James Brian Beckham <<a href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>>, George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com">icann@leap.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #B5C4DF 4.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt' id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Paul:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>I disagree. A trademark is in fact a property right.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br>On Dec 18, 2016, at 10:59 PM, <a href="mailto:Paul@law.es">Paul@law.es</a> ZIMBRA <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>I'm replying to a few of the top emails<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>First, you do t know the use of the domain. That is rather the point. By allowing the T,CH to be used as a preventative tool we must weigh the balances of the exclusive right of use represented un the trademark and the rights of domain registrants to use the domain for any other purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Second, Marie, a trademark is NOT a property right. It is a right of exclusive use granted by governmental authority over the use of a term, word, or other element in association with a specific product or service. AND that right is LIMITED jurisdictionally. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>But, again, at this juncture we are getting ahead of ourselves in this discussion. <br><br></span><span lang=DE style='font-size:13.0pt;color:black'>Paul Keating</span><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br>On 19 Dec 2016, at 7:16 AM, Jonathan Agmon <<a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal">jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>How do you know what the intended use of the domain name will be? 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Box 12425 4672408 Herzliya, <span style='color:#527AAE'>ISRAEL </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p><span lang=DE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Museo Sans 100","serif";color:black'>This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by e-mail reply and delete it from your system; you may not copy this message or disclose its contents to anyone. Please send us by fax any message containing deadlines as incoming e-mails are not screened for response deadlines. The integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'> Reg Levy [<a href="mailto:reg@mmx.co">mailto:reg@mmx.co</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 19, 2016 8:09 AM<br><b>To:</b> Marie Pattullo <<a href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> John C. McElwaine <<a href="mailto:john.mcelwaine@nelsonmullins.com">john.mcelwaine@nelsonmullins.com</a>>; Philip S. Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>>; J. Scott Evans <<a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com">jsevans@adobe.com</a>>; Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es">Paul@law.es</a>>; Jonathan Agmon <<a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal">jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal</a>>; James Brian Beckham <<a href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>>; George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com">icann@leap.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='color:black'>I agree. Limiting domain names that match trademarks to only their uses in the offline world (no apple.food) also would violate the stated purpose of the New gTLD Program—to promote competition and consumer choice. If the TMCH is just going to create a carbon copy of .com in every TLD, we’ve all wasted a number of years.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='color:black'>/R<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=DE style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Reg Levy<br>VP Compliance + Policy | Minds + Machines Group Limited<br>C: +1-310-963-7135<br>S: RegLevy2<br><br>Current UTC offset: -8</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='color:black'>On 13 Dec 2016, at 07:34, Marie Pattullo <<a href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>I’ve spent the afternoon back reading the threads here and I have to hold my hands up and admit I’m confused. We all know that ICANN isn’t a legislative body, and we all know that it can’t (and I very much doubt it would want to!) make law. Various laws in the various jurisdictions around the world include various TM laws, which in turn include rules and practises for how and why TMs are granted. That’s what the TMCH is - a repository of TMs that have been legally granted. No?</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>And unless and until a TM lapses, or is cancelled, it’s as much a legal property right as any other. It can’t be OK for an independent administrative repository of TMs to decide to ignore some legal property rights, surely? If the TMCH were just a private list with no function then we’d be on different ground, but given that it’s the gatekeeper for accessing certain RPMs I can’t see under what basis this administrative repository could be allowed to choose which property rights are allowed through the gate and which aren’t. </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>I’m sorry if this is naïve, but I honestly don’t understand how the TMCH can be the court of appeal for the legality of TM rights. Isn’t that why we have actual courts? And holding it out to be some form of appeal body is surely only going to confuse non-TM people, like most registrants, as to its “powers”.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Following that, and John’s questions, what are we trying to do? Limit any DN containing a TM to uses that the TM has in the offline world? But not limiting any other word to uses it may have offline? So isn’t that actually discriminating against words that are in TMs against words that aren’t - dictionary, arbitrary, proper or just plain made up? What are we actually trying to do?</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>I’m sorry for the TLDR post and sorry also for my confusion. I plead fuzziness of brain brought on by sociable Belgian cold viruses.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Marie</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><image007.png></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:FR-BE'> </span></b><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:FR-BE'>Marie Pattullo</span></b><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:FR-BE'>Senior Trade Marks and Brand Protection Manager</span></b><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR-BE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;mso-fareast-language:FR-BE'>AIM</span></b><b><span lang=FR-BE style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:FR-BE'> - 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Scott Evans; Paul Keating; Jonathan Agmon; Beckham, Brian; George Kirikos; </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><br>Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FW: Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Phil,</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks for this. I'm just seeking some clarification: Does this question seek whether the TMCH should be limited in its application to Trademark Claims Notices and Sunrise Processes in which the domain name being registered is going to be used in a manner that relates to the goods and services contained in the registration, if the registration consists of a word found in a dictionary?</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Kind regards,</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>John</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> [</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>] On Behalf Of Phil Corwin</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:58 AM</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>To: J. Scott Evans; Paul Keating; Jonathan Agmon; Beckham, Brian; George Kirikos; </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FW: Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Good day to all. I have been tied up this morning on the call of the WS2 Jurisdiction subgroup.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>The proposed compromise language agreed upon by the co-chairs and suggested for your consideration as a path forward so we can get the questions out and get on to the work of reviewing and understanding the answers is as follows:</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> Should the scope of the TMCH be limited to apply only to the categories of goods and services in which the dictionary term(s) within a trademark are protected? If so, how? In responding to this question, you should note that the original submitters of the related charter questions seem to be been particularly concerned about "generic terms" representing the common or class name for the goods and services.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>We hope this proposed formulation will prove acceptable to members of this WG. Thanks for your consideration.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Best to all, Philip</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Virtualaw LLC</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>1155 F Street, NW</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Suite 1050</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Washington, DC 20004</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>202-559-8597/Direct</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>202-559-8750/Fax</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>202-255-6172/Cell</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Twitter: @VlawDC</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> [</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>] On Behalf Of J. Scott Evans</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:24 AM</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>To: Paul Keating; Jonathan Agmon; Beckham, Brian; George Kirikos; </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FW: Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Importance: High</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>Phil?</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>J. Scott Evans | Associate General Counsel - Trademarks, Copyright, Domains & Marketing | Adobe</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>345 Park Avenue</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>San Jose, CA 95110</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>408.536.5336 (tel), 408.709.6162 (cell)</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>jsevans@adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="http://www.adobe.com/"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>On 12/13/16, 4:18 AM, "Paul Keating" <</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:Paul@law.es"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>Paul@law.es</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>> wrote:</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>Please circulate it prior to the call.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>On 12/13/16, 1:10 PM, "J. Scott Evans" <</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>jsevans@adobe.com</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>> wrote:</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>The Co-Chairs have a proposed compromise revision drafted by Phil that </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>we will propose to the group.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>J. Scott</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>J. Scott Evans | Associate General Counsel - Trademarks, Copyright, </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>Domains & Marketing | Adobe</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>345 Park Avenue</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>San Jose, CA 95110</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>408.536.5336 (tel), 408.709.6162 (cell) </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>jsevans@adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="http://www.adobe.com/"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>On 12/13/16, 4:06 AM, "Paul Keating" <</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:Paul@law.es"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>Paul@law.es</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>> wrote:</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>Good suggestion J. Scott.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>Can we live with the question as follows?</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>Should the scope of the TMCH be limited in its application to </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>trademarks containing dictionary terms which are generic or </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>descriptive? If so how?</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>Paul</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>On 12/13/16, 12:51 PM, "J. Scott Evans" <</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>jsevans@adobe.com</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>> wrote:</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>Again, and at the risk of repeating myself. And, as Brian Beckham </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>pointed out this morning, there are quite a few of us in the ICANN </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>community and on the list that understand the nuances of generic, </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>descriptive, arbitrary and fanciful marks as land out in Abercrombie </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>by Learned Hand oh so long ago. However, in the bigger picture </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>policy debate most stakeholders do not understand. They believe that </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>a term is "generic" if it is a WORD with a meaning and are quite </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>frustrated when they find that they cannot own </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="http://ACETOOLS.COM"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>ACETOOLS.COM</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> for </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>their site that is for really cool tools. This misunderstanding is </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>then conflated in the policy debate and causes all kinds of </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>confusion and misunderstanding. Hence, I believe the better term is </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>"dictionary term" which under the Abercrombie factors can be either </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>generic, descriptive or arbitrary depending on the circumstances.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>J. Scott</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>J. Scott Evans | Associate General Counsel - Trademarks, Copyright, </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>Domains & Marketing | Adobe</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>345 Park Avenue</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>San Jose, CA 95110</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>408.536.5336 (tel), 408.709.6162 (cell) </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>jsevans@adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="http://www.adobe.com/"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>On 12/13/16, 3:44 AM, "Paul Keating" <</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:Paul@law.es"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>Paul@law.es</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>> wrote:</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>Jonathan,</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>Not to be nit-picky but your definition is incorrect.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>Generic: Relating to or characteristic of a whole group or class; </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>general, as opposed to specific or special. (Black's Law </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>Dictionary)</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>A 'generic term" is one which is commonly used as the name or </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>description of a kind of goods and it is generally accepted that a </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>generic term is incapable of achieving trade name protection. For </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>example, any single seller can not have trademark rights in </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>"television" or "oven." When a seller is given exclusive rights to </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>call something by its recognized name, it would amount to a </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>practical monopoly on selling that type of product.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>Even established trademarks can lose their protection if they are </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>used generically. For example (in U.S.), thermos and aspirin.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>A descriptive term (which many people refer to as a "dictionary </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>term") is merely that - a term used in its descriptive sense (e.g. </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>"Redbarn" is descriptive for selling red barns but not for hotels).</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>Treatment in differing jurisdictions complicates matters. For </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>example, the term "donut" is a trademark in Spain for donuts. It </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>was obtained way back when when the registrant saw donuts during a </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>visit to the US, returned to Spain and began producing them and </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>registered the trademark.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>Thus, the term has nothing to do with consumer perception of source.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>Moreover, most generic terms are by definition "in the dictionary".</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>The problem I encounter most with generic/descriptive terms are in </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>the context of figurative marks. Although the USPTO is getting </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>better at requiring disclaimers, they were not so diligent in the </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>future. In my experience, most other jurisdictions do not </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>rigorously impose disclaimer obligations.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>Another source of constant frustration is with Section 2(f). </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>Again, while the USPTO appears to becoming more diligent they were </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>simply horrible in the past. Other jurisdictions do not have a </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>similar provision and, for example, France, has a terrible </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>reputation for registering even the most descriptive (and even </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>generic) terms.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>I think the question regarding generic marks in the TMCH has merit </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>and should be discussed and this thread is but one example of why. </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>Again, whether we reach conclusions as to the question is a </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>different issue for a different day.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>Paul Keating</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>On 12/13/16, 12:12 PM, "Jonathan Agmon" </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>><</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>wrote:</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>All,</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Just to contribute another angle and perhaps a helpful example.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>I think that dictionary words and generic terms are two different </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>species. A dictionary word is a word that is defined in the </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>dictionary.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>For example the word "apple" is defined as "a fruit (as a star </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>apple) or other vegetative growth". A generic term is a legal </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>standard in trademark law denoting a mark whose source cannot be </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>identified by consumers.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>And</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>if consumers think that a single source exists for that term then </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>by law the term is not generic. Therefore, in this example, APPLE, </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>a dictionary word by all accounts, may be a dictionary word for </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>fruit, is not a generic term and will in all likelihood be </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>considered a strong trademark for computers.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>This is just one example and you should consider that the term </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>"generic"</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>as a term of art in trademark law. It has nothing to do with </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>dictionary words. Moreover, some dictionary words can be weak </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>trademarks at one time and strong trademarks at another time.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>You can consider for example the marks NYLON or XEROX. You can </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>find both of them in the dictionary. The term NYLON was an </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>invented mark, invented in 1935 by DuPont. It arguably became </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>generic (from a trademark</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>perspective) when consumers all started referring to synthetic </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>polymers from every manufacture (not just DuPont) as Nylon. XEROX </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>invented a photocopying machine. The term came close to turning </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>generic when in the eighties consumers used the verb "Xeroxing" </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>instead of "photocopying".</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Xeorx, the company changed that and today by all accounts the mark </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>XEROX is not generic but rather a trademark for photocopying </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>machines.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Taking the above into account ,the policies below state "generic </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>or descriptive" not generic or dictionary words. The term </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>descriptive is another term of art in trademark law, which refers </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>to a trademark that describes the goods it is applied to. The </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>examples of "toy, shop, cleaner, lawyer..." are only descriptive </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>for the relevant goods or services they are attached to. </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Non-lawyers would immediately associate these terms with their </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>respective meaning. But, these terms can serve as trademarks too. </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>It all depends on the circumstances and consumer perception. One </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>last example would be the use of TOY on a yogurt product.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Check out the attachment - the term JOY is applied to a yogurt </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>product.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>While the term JOY can be descriptive of a feeling, it is not </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>descriptive for yogurt products. So long as consumers don't call </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>any yogurt product JOY, then it is also not generic.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>I hope this helps.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Jonathan Agmon(???)</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Advocate, PARTNER</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="http://www.ip-law.legal/"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.ip-law.legal</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Soroker Agmon Nordman Pte Ltd.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>133 New Bridge Road, #13-02, 059413 SINGAPORE</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>8 Hahoshlim Street, 4672408 Herzliya, ISRAEL T SG +65 6532 2577 T </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>US +1 212 999 6180 T IL +972 9 950 7000 F IL +972 9 950 5500</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by e-mail </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>reply and delete it from your system; you may not copy this </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>message or disclose its contents to anyone. Please send us by fax </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>any message containing deadlines as incoming e-mails are not </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>screened for response deadlines. The integrity and security of </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet.-----Original </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Message-----</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>From: </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>[</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>] On Behalf Of Beckham, Brian</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:42 PM</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>To: Paul Keating <</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:Paul@law.es"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>Paul@law.es</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>; J. Scott Evans </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>><</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>jsevans@adobe.com</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>; George Kirikos <</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:icann@leap.com"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>icann@leap.com</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>; </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FW: Updated TMCH Charter Questions </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Paul, all,</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>A timely post on CircleID speaks to (intentional) confusion on the </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>"generic"/dictionary dichotomy:</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20161212_appearing_respondents_calle"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.circleid.com/posts/20161212_appearing_respondents_calle</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>d_o</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>u</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>t</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>_</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>a</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>s</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>_cybersquatters/</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>In that post, Mr. Levine notes:</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>"There's continuing confusion among domain buyers (not likely to </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>be professional investors) that dictionary words are 'generic' </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>therefore available to the first to register them. That's not the case at all.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>There are numerous trademarks composed of common words; weak </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>perhaps, and vulnerable when combined with other common words but </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>nevertheless protectable with sufficient proof of bad faith."</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Brian</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>From: </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>[</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>] On Behalf Of Paul Keating</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 10:24 PM</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>To: J. Scott Evans; George Kirikos; </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FW: Updated TMCH Charter Questions </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>But it does show that it is not so much rocket science.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>On 12/12/16, 10:11 PM, "J. Scott Evans"</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>><</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>on</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>behalf of </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>jsevans@adobe.com</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>> wrote:</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>That don¹t make it right.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>J. Scott Evans | Associate General Counsel - Trademarks, </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>Copyright, Domains & Marketing | Adobe</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>345 Park Avenue</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>San Jose, CA 95110</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>408.536.5336 (tel), 408.709.6162 (cell) </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>jsevans@adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="http://www.adobe.com/"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>On 12/12/16, 10:04 AM, "</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> on behalf </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>of George Kirikos" <</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'> on behalf of </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:icann@leap.com"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>icann@leap.com</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>wrote:</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>FYI, re: "generic", both the .uk and the .nz dispute policies </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>reference "generic" domain names, see:</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>.uk:</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="http://nominet-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://nominet-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>Fin</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>a</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>l</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>-</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>pro</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>p</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>osed-DRS-Policy.pdf</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>"8.1.2 The Domain Name is generic or descriptive and the </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>Respondent is making fair use of it;"</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>.nz: </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="https://www.dnc.org.nz/resource-library/policies/65"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://www.dnc.org.nz/resource-library/policies/65</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>"Generic Term means a word or phrase that is a common name in </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>general public use for a product, service, profession, place or </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>thing. For</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>example: toy; shop; cleaner; lawyers; Wellington; sparkling-wine"</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>"6.1.2. The Domain Name is generic or descriptive and the </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>Respondent is making fair use of it in a way which is consistent </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>with its generic or descriptive character;"</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>Sincerely,</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>George Kirikos</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>416-588-0269</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="http://www.leap.com/"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.leap.com/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>>gnso-rpm-wg mailing list</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>________________________________</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>><ACL></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>>gnso-rpm-wg mailing list</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>_______________________________________________</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>gnso-rpm-wg mailing list</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>World Intellectual Property Organization Disclaimer: This </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>electronic message may contain privileged, confidential and </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>copyright protected information. If you have received this e-mail </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>by mistake, please immediately notify the sender and delete this </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>e-mail and all its attachments. Please ensure all e-mail </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>attachments are scanned for viruses prior to opening or using.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>_______________________________________________</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>gnso-rpm-wg mailing list</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>></span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>******************************************************************</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>***</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>*</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>*</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>*</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>*</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>*</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>**********</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>computer viruses.</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>******************************************************************</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>***</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>*</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>*</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>*</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>*</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>*</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>>**********</span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:black'>>>>> </span><span lang=DE style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB 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