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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black">Being a newcomer in this WG I followed the discussion in the last weeks with great interest (but silently) and always wondered what would trigger me to post a comment. Here
we are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black">First, I might be wrong, but: is it part of the job of this WG to discuss whether the European Court of Justice (and other courts) are right in protecting a trademark
as “property”? As you say, many courts (including the ECJ) have confirmed that and they are right. But I feel that this question has nothing to do with the TMCH or the Charter. Correct? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black">That brings me to the second point (in line with Marie’s comment below): irrespective of how you qualify a trademark (property or not), it is not on the TMCH to
decide whether existing rights in a trademark are legal. Courts, trademark offices and maybe even arbitration panels deciding a domain name case may do that, but not the TMCH database. The TMCH is not a super trademark examiner.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black">Indeed, we seem to be in the middle of the discussion already (rather than finalizing the Charter Questions documents), and I look very much forward to this discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:DE">Von:</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:DE"> gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Paul Keating<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 19. Dezember 2016 15:01<br>
<b>An:</b> J. Scott Evans <jsevans@adobe.com><br>
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<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Sorry to be quippy here but……</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">No. You may want it to be but it is merely an exclusive right of use. It is no more than a license granted by the United States (or other) government.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">The trademark crowd has long attempted to include trademarks in the holy confines of IP. Traditionally Intellectual Property was reserved for patents and copyrights – things that required the
term. To an extent they have succeeded and there are more than a few courts that have confused things and used the term “property” when discussing trademark rights. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">The same expansive thinking has been bantered about by the copyright industry in speaking of copyrights as a constitutionally guaranteed right. The Constitution grants no such thing. It merely
empowers Congress to make laws about…..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">This is an error and I would love the day that we return to the correct reference points. Otherwise we will continue to move down the entitlement path in which everything becomes a “property right”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">"J. Scott Evans" <<a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com">jsevans@adobe.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, December 19, 2016 at 9:28 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Jonathan Agmon <<a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal">jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal</a>>, Reg Levy <<a href="mailto:reg@mmx.co">reg@mmx.co</a>>, Marie Pattullo <<a href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>>, "John C. McElwaine"
<<a href="mailto:john.mcelwaine@nelsonmullins.com">john.mcelwaine@nelsonmullins.com</a>>, Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>>, James Brian Beckham <<a href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>>, George Kirikos
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">I disagree. A trademark is in fact a property right.<br>
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On Dec 18, 2016, at 10:59 PM, <a href="mailto:Paul@law.es">Paul@law.es</a> ZIMBRA <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">I'm replying to a few of the top emails<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">First, you do t know the use of the domain. That is rather the point. By allowing the T,CH to be used as a preventative tool we must weigh the balances of the exclusive right of use represented
un the trademark and the rights of domain registrants to use the domain for any other purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Second, Marie, a trademark is NOT a property right. It is a right of exclusive use granted by governmental authority over the use of a term, word, or other element in association with a specific
product or service. AND that right is LIMITED jurisdictionally. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">But, again, at this juncture we are getting ahead of ourselves in this discussion. <br>
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On 19 Dec 2016, at 7:16 AM, Jonathan Agmon <<a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal">jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">How do you know what the intended use of the domain name will be? How will you ensure the intended use is maintained?
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<b>To:</b> Marie Pattullo <<a href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> John C. McElwaine <<a href="mailto:john.mcelwaine@nelsonmullins.com">john.mcelwaine@nelsonmullins.com</a>>; Philip S. Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>>; J. Scott Evans <<a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com">jsevans@adobe.com</a>>;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I agree. Limiting domain names that match trademarks to only their uses in the offline world (no apple.food) also would violate the stated purpose of the New gTLD Program—to promote competition and consumer choice.
If the TMCH is just going to create a carbon copy of .com in every TLD, we’ve all wasted a number of years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">On 13 Dec 2016, at 07:34, Marie Pattullo <<a href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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body, and we all know that it can’t (and I very much doubt it would want to!) make law. Various laws in the various jurisdictions around the world include various TM laws, which in turn include rules and practises for how and why TMs are granted. That’s what
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">And unless and until a TM lapses, or is cancelled, it’s as much a legal property right as any other. It can’t be OK for an independent administrative
repository of TMs to decide to ignore some legal property rights, surely? If the TMCH were just a private list with no function then we’d be on different ground, but given that it’s the gatekeeper for accessing certain RPMs I can’t see under what basis this
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not limiting any other word to uses it may have offline? So isn’t that actually discriminating against words that are in TMs against words that aren’t - dictionary, arbitrary, proper or just plain made up? What are we actually trying to do?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: </span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">
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To: Phil Corwin; J. Scott Evans; Paul Keating; Jonathan Agmon; Beckham, Brian; George Kirikos;
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Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FW: Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks for this. I'm just seeking some clarification: Does this question seek whether the TMCH should be limited in its application to Trademark
Claims Notices and Sunrise Processes in which the domain name being registered is going to be used in a manner that relates to the goods and services contained in the registration, if the registration consists of a word found in a dictionary?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">-----Original Message-----</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">]
On Behalf Of Phil Corwin</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:58 AM</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">To: J. Scott Evans; Paul Keating; Jonathan Agmon; Beckham, Brian; George Kirikos;
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FW: Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">Good day to all. I have been tied up this morning on the call of the WS2 Jurisdiction subgroup.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">The proposed compromise language agreed upon by the co-chairs and suggested for your consideration as a path forward so we can get the questions
out and get on to the work of reviewing and understanding the answers is as follows:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black"> Should the scope of the TMCH be limited to apply only to the categories of goods and services in which the dictionary term(s) within a
trademark are protected? If so, how? In responding to this question, you should note that the original submitters of the related charter questions seem to be been particularly concerned about "generic terms" representing the common or class name for
the goods and services.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">We hope this proposed formulation will prove acceptable to members of this WG. Thanks for your consideration.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">Best to all, Philip</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">-----Original Message-----</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">
[</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">]
On Behalf Of J. Scott Evans</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:24 AM</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">To: Paul Keating; Jonathan Agmon; Beckham, Brian; George Kirikos;
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FW: Updated TMCH Charter Questions tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">Importance: High</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">Phil?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">J. Scott Evans | Associate General Counsel - Trademarks, Copyright, Domains & Marketing | Adobe</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">345 Park Avenue</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">San Jose, CA 95110</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">408.536.5336 (tel), 408.709.6162 (cell)</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">jsevans@adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">On 12/13/16, 4:18 AM, "Paul Keating" <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:Paul@law.es"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Paul@law.es</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>
wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>Please circulate it prior to the call.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>On 12/13/16, 1:10 PM, "J. Scott Evans" <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">jsevans@adobe.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>
wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>The Co-Chairs have a proposed compromise revision drafted by Phil that
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>we will propose to the group.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>J. Scott</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>J. Scott Evans | Associate General Counsel - Trademarks, Copyright,
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>Domains & Marketing | Adobe</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>345 Park Avenue</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>San Jose, CA 95110</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>408.536.5336 (tel), 408.709.6162 (cell)
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">jsevans@adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.adobe.com/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>On 12/13/16, 4:06 AM, "Paul Keating" <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:Paul@law.es"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Paul@law.es</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>
wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>Good suggestion J. Scott.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>Can we live with the question as follows?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>Should the scope of the TMCH be limited in its application to
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>trademarks containing dictionary terms which are generic or
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>descriptive? If so how?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>Paul</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>On 12/13/16, 12:51 PM, "J. Scott Evans" <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">jsevans@adobe.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>
wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>Again, and at the risk of repeating myself. And, as Brian Beckham
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>pointed out this morning, there are quite a few of us in the ICANN
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>community and on the list that understand the nuances of generic,
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>descriptive, arbitrary and fanciful marks as land out in Abercrombie
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>by Learned Hand oh so long ago. However, in the bigger picture
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>policy debate most stakeholders do not understand. They believe that
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>a term is "generic" if it is a WORD with a meaning and are quite
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>frustrated when they find that they cannot own
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://ACETOOLS.COM"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">ACETOOLS.COM</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">
for </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>their site that is for really cool tools. This misunderstanding is
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>then conflated in the policy debate and causes all kinds of
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>confusion and misunderstanding. Hence, I believe the better term is
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>"dictionary term" which under the Abercrombie factors can be either
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>generic, descriptive or arbitrary depending on the circumstances.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>J. Scott</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>J. Scott Evans | Associate General Counsel - Trademarks, Copyright,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>Domains & Marketing | Adobe</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>345 Park Avenue</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>San Jose, CA 95110</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>408.536.5336 (tel), 408.709.6162 (cell)
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">jsevans@adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.adobe.com/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>On 12/13/16, 3:44 AM, "Paul Keating" <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:Paul@law.es"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Paul@law.es</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>
wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>Jonathan,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>Not to be nit-picky but your definition is incorrect.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>Generic: Relating to or characteristic of a whole group or class;
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>general, as opposed to specific or special. (Black's Law
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>Dictionary)</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>A 'generic term" is one which is commonly used as the name or
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>description of a kind of goods and it is generally accepted that a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>generic term is incapable of achieving trade name protection. For
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>example, any single seller can not have trademark rights in
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>"television" or "oven." When a seller is given exclusive rights to
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>call something by its recognized name, it would amount to a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>practical monopoly on selling that type of product.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>Even established trademarks can lose their protection if they are
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>used generically. For example (in U.S.), thermos and aspirin.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>A descriptive term (which many people refer to as a "dictionary
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>term") is merely that - a term used in its descriptive sense (e.g.
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>"Redbarn" is descriptive for selling red barns but not for hotels).</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>Treatment in differing jurisdictions complicates matters. For
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>example, the term "donut" is a trademark in Spain for donuts. It
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>was obtained way back when when the registrant saw donuts during a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>visit to the US, returned to Spain and began producing them and
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>registered the trademark.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>Thus, the term has nothing to do with consumer perception of source.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>Moreover, most generic terms are by definition "in the dictionary".</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>The problem I encounter most with generic/descriptive terms are in
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>the context of figurative marks. Although the USPTO is getting
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>better at requiring disclaimers, they were not so diligent in the
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>future. In my experience, most other jurisdictions do not
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>rigorously impose disclaimer obligations.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>Another source of constant frustration is with Section 2(f).
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>Again, while the USPTO appears to becoming more diligent they were
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>simply horrible in the past. Other jurisdictions do not have a
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>similar provision and, for example, France, has a terrible
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>reputation for registering even the most descriptive (and even
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>generic) terms.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>I think the question regarding generic marks in the TMCH has merit
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>and should be discussed and this thread is but one example of why.
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>Again, whether we reach conclusions as to the question is a
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>different issue for a different day.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>Paul Keating</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>On 12/13/16, 12:12 PM, "Jonathan Agmon"
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>><</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>All,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Just to contribute another angle and perhaps a helpful example.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>I think that dictionary words and generic terms are two different
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>species. A dictionary word is a word that is defined in the
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>dictionary.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>For example the word "apple" is defined as "a fruit (as a star
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>apple) or other vegetative growth". A generic term is a legal
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>standard in trademark law denoting a mark whose source cannot be
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>identified by consumers.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>And</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>if consumers think that a single source exists for that term then
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>by law the term is not generic. Therefore, in this example, APPLE,
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>a dictionary word by all accounts, may be a dictionary word for
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>fruit, is not a generic term and will in all likelihood be
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>considered a strong trademark for computers.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>This is just one example and you should consider that the term
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>"generic"</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>as a term of art in trademark law. It has nothing to do with
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>dictionary words. Moreover, some dictionary words can be weak
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>trademarks at one time and strong trademarks at another time.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>You can consider for example the marks NYLON or XEROX. You can
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>find both of them in the dictionary. The term NYLON was an
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>invented mark, invented in 1935 by DuPont. It arguably became
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>generic (from a trademark</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>perspective) when consumers all started referring to synthetic
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>polymers from every manufacture (not just DuPont) as Nylon. XEROX
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>invented a photocopying machine. The term came close to turning
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>generic when in the eighties consumers used the verb "Xeroxing"
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>instead of "photocopying".</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Xeorx, the company changed that and today by all accounts the mark
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>XEROX is not generic but rather a trademark for photocopying
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>machines.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Taking the above into account ,the policies below state "generic
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>or descriptive" not generic or dictionary words. The term
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>descriptive is another term of art in trademark law, which refers
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>to a trademark that describes the goods it is applied to. The
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>examples of "toy, shop, cleaner, lawyer..." are only descriptive
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>for the relevant goods or services they are attached to.
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Non-lawyers would immediately associate these terms with their
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>respective meaning. But, these terms can serve as trademarks too.
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>It all depends on the circumstances and consumer perception. One
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>last example would be the use of TOY on a yogurt product.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Check out the attachment - the term JOY is applied to a yogurt
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>product.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>While the term JOY can be descriptive of a feeling, it is not
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>descriptive for yogurt products. So long as consumers don't call
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>any yogurt product JOY, then it is also not generic.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>I hope this helps.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Jonathan Agmon(???)</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Advocate, PARTNER</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.ip-law.legal/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.ip-law.legal</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Soroker Agmon Nordman Pte Ltd.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>133 New Bridge Road, #13-02, 059413 SINGAPORE</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>8 Hahoshlim Street, 4672408 Herzliya, ISRAEL T SG +65 6532 2577 T
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>US +1 212 999 6180 T IL +972 9 950 7000 F IL +972 9 950 5500</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>otherwise protected by work product immunity or other legal rules.
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>If you have received it by mistake, please let us know by e-mail
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>reply and delete it from your system; you may not copy this
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>message or disclose its contents to anyone. Please send us by fax
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>any message containing deadlines as incoming e-mails are not
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>screened for response deadlines. The integrity and security of
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet.-----Original
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Message-----</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>From:
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>[</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">]
On Behalf Of Beckham, Brian</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:42 PM</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>To: Paul Keating <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:Paul@law.es"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Paul@law.es</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>;
J. Scott Evans </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>><</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">jsevans@adobe.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>;
George Kirikos <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:icann@leap.com"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">icann@leap.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>;
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FW: Updated TMCH Charter Questions
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Paul, all,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>A timely post on CircleID speaks to (intentional) confusion on the
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>"generic"/dictionary dichotomy:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20161212_appearing_respondents_calle"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.circleid.com/posts/20161212_appearing_respondents_calle</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>d_o</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>u</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>t</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>_</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>a</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>s</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>_cybersquatters/</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>In that post, Mr. Levine notes:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>"There's continuing confusion among domain buyers (not likely to
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>be professional investors) that dictionary words are 'generic'
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>therefore available to the first to register them. That's not the case at all.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>There are numerous trademarks composed of common words; weak
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>perhaps, and vulnerable when combined with other common words but
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>nevertheless protectable with sufficient proof of bad faith."</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Brian</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>-----Original Message-----</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>From:
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>[</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">]
On Behalf Of Paul Keating</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 10:24 PM</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>To: J. Scott Evans; George Kirikos;
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FW: Updated TMCH Charter Questions
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>tabulated categories document - 2 December 2016</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>But it does show that it is not so much rocket science.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>On 12/12/16, 10:11 PM, "J. Scott Evans"</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>><</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>on</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>behalf of
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">jsevans@adobe.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>
wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>That don¹t make it right.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>J. Scott Evans | Associate General Counsel - Trademarks,
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>Copyright, Domains & Marketing | Adobe</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>345 Park Avenue</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>San Jose, CA 95110</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>408.536.5336 (tel), 408.709.6162 (cell)
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">jsevans@adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.adobe.com/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.adobe.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>On 12/12/16, 10:04 AM, "</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">
on behalf </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>of George Kirikos" <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">
on behalf of </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:icann@leap.com"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">icann@leap.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>FYI, re: "generic", both the .uk and the .nz dispute policies
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>reference "generic" domain names, see:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>.uk:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://nominet-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://nominet-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>Fin</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>a</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>l</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>-</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>pro</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>p</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>osed-DRS-Policy.pdf</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>"8.1.2 The Domain Name is generic or descriptive and the
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>Respondent is making fair use of it;"</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>.nz:
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="https://www.dnc.org.nz/resource-library/policies/65"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://www.dnc.org.nz/resource-library/policies/65</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>"Generic Term means a word or phrase that is a common name in
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>general public use for a product, service, profession, place or
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>thing. For</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>example: toy; shop; cleaner; lawyers; Wellington; sparkling-wine"</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>"6.1.2. The Domain Name is generic or descriptive and the
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>Respondent is making fair use of it in a way which is consistent
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>with its generic or descriptive character;"</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>Sincerely,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>George Kirikos</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>416-588-0269</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="http://www.leap.com/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.leap.com/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>>gnso-rpm-wg mailing list</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>________________________________</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>><ACL></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>_______________________________________________</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>>gnso-rpm-wg mailing list</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>_______________________________________________</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>gnso-rpm-wg mailing list</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>World Intellectual Property Organization Disclaimer: This
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>electronic message may contain privileged, confidential and
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>copyright protected information. If you have received this e-mail
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>by mistake, please immediately notify the sender and delete this
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>e-mail and all its attachments. Please ensure all e-mail
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>attachments are scanned for viruses prior to opening or using.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>_______________________________________________</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>gnso-rpm-wg mailing list</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>></span><span style="color:black"><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>******************************************************************</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>***</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>*</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>*</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>*</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>*</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>*</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:black">>>>>>>**********</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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