<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">I had the same experience last night when I tried to stay up for the call and intended to make it, but fell asleep because it was in middle of the night. So I would like to be added to that column too please. 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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 6:20 AM, Jonathan Agmon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal" target="_blank">jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">First I apologize for cc’ing the entire list to this email but I think it is only fair that this would not be a private request.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The attendance list is a bit of a sore spot for me since I joined this WG. As I noted before I do want to attend the calls but
<u>all</u> the calls are outside the time zone for the Far East. They are always at 1am or 6am for Singapore/Beijing time. For Australia I think it is even worse. It is therefore unreasonable for those of us in this part of the world to join. It is also a bit
odd for us to continuously apologize for not making the calls. After all there is nothing to apologize for.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Can I therefore please ask you to add another category to the attendance. I suggest we call it “out of time zone” or something to this effect.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">You can place my name there and perhaps others from this part of the planet who so request. I hope this will better reflect the fact that I (and perhaps others)
would like to join the calls but we cannot. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I appreciate your kind consideration of this request.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:30 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rpm-wg] Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat for Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear All,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms
(RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group call held on Wednesday, 21 December 2016 at 22:00 UTC. Attendance of the call is posted on agenda wiki page: </span><span style="color:black"><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/BJ3DAw" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">https://community.icann.<wbr>org/x/BJ3DAw</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="line-height:15.6pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-2Dactivities_calendar&d=DgMFAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=_STPpuvWbrg8yQQ2JMc3Sjjz6MxqKujdkmRIaJjBRsk&s=00U1t8R-APnrMH9L5X2fY5guBRLY8t8aDSeS04DpFw8&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">http://gnso.icann.org/en/<wbr>group-activities/calendar[<wbr>gnso.icann.org]</span></a></span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Mailing list archives: <a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple;background:white">http://mm.icann.org/<wbr>pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/</span></a></span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thank you.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Kind regards,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Michelle DeSmyter </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Adobe Connect chat transcript for 21 December 2016:</span></u></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group call on Wednesday, 21 December 2016 at 22:00
UTC for 60 minutes.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Philip Corwin:Hi Michelle. I am uncharacteristically early ;-)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Michelle DeSmyter:No worries - glad to have you! :) <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome Maxim!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Hello Michelle, Philip<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Michelle DeSmyter:Ouch - sounds good Maxim<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George Kirikos:Hi folks.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary Wong:@Phil, we have the redlined version ready. Let us know if you want us to change to it.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary Wong:We are at the bottom of page 5, for those who have just joined<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):reasonably priced to allow for protection of small local businesses?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George Kirikos:Accessible = affordable?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I think affordable is too limiting<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:There may be other hinderances at play<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather Forrest:Agree with Kristine that affordable is too narrow a term<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Jeff Neuman:ease of use?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin Barnett:Agree that "access" would potentially include cost, as well as some of the things Phil mentioned such as language, etc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kurt Pritz:I think guidance for this question comes from the last prepositional clause: "in developing countries."<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Paul Tattersfield:Can we change ‘trademark owners’ to ‘rights holders’? Because it’s important to provide guidance for marks protected by statue and treaty
as well as trademarks.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:The dictionary says accessible means: capable of being used, influenced, seen, understood, appreciated. I think
that word is fine.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan payne:Agree with Paul's replacement to rights holders<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin Barnett:Agree we should keep to "accessible"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kurt Pritz:Maybe revese the sentence: Can those in developing countries readily access trademark clearinghouse services (as compared to other regions)?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kathy Kleiman:Why would we change trademark owners to rights holders?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin Barnett:No objection to "rights holders"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary Wong:On 4.1, note the Sub Team suggestion to share the WG findings on this with the New gTLD SubPro WG.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Steve Levy:I like the term "confidential"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan payne:I think we all understand closed = confidential<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Laurie Anderson:Closed seems to be misleading to the general public<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George Kirikos: <wbr> 5.1 is about costs. One alternative to multiple providers is to have regular competitive tenders.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:If that's the case, then I suggest that costs will come out of our investigation as an issue. I'm sure we'll
get data on that. And if cost is a problem, then I think competition is a valid solution.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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at the membership of this PDP WG we have a lot of trademark owners and users of the TMCH. So to me it makes sense to be here.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan payne:Hi, I would point out that the WG suggested 2 alternative options for language on this<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary Wong:Several WG members have expressed a preference for Option 2.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Jon Nevett:@Steve -- we alone paid them about $1M -- can't believe that they have lost $<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan payne:ICANN paid them too!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin Barnett:I would support a further revised version of Cat 5 Q 1: “Taking into consideration cost, reliability, global reach, diversity of services,
consistency, and other possible factors, would it be desirable and practical to have more than one provider for the TMCH services? Why or why not?” <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Proposal 2 focuses on the question: "what is the problem" rather than suggesting a list....<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan payne:I prefer 2<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather Forrest:I prefer the open-endedness of 2<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin Barnett:Proposal 2 wording seems to presuppose that there are concerns with a single provider of TMCH services, that's my only concern about that
formulation<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Griffin, people from the community came up with this question, so it's safe to assume SOMEONE thinks there's a
problem. :)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Vinzenz Heussler:Griffin Barnett combined 1 and 2 rather clever<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather Forrest:Mary has her hand up<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I'm not following that - visual learner. Can someone capture Phil's most recent suggestion in writing?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kurt Pritz:@ Mary - we are perilously close to agreement - cmonsensus<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Vinzenz Heussler:it's in the agenda/notes on the right side, isn't it<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kurt Pritz:@ Mary "consensus"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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diversity and consistency, or should significant changes be considered? <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin Barnett:@Kurt -- I thought "cmonsensus" was intentionally clever<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Proposal 4 was Phil's right?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I support that.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary Wong:Proposal 3 was from Griffin, Proposal 4 is Phil's suggestion<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:thanks Mary, Santa better be kind to you...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin Barnett:Agree you can remove "Why or why not" from my proposal -- it is implied by the initial question<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary Wong:I count 14 in favor of Proposal 4<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather Forrest:Are we not taking this out to other members of the WG? I misunderstood perhaps - thought the straw poll was going out to the list?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary Wong:@Heather, we will send out a note highlighting that this is the proposed final set of TMCH Charter questions<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):have we seen a single review of TMCH activities from financial perspective?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David McAuley (RySG):it sounds like proportionate among those three<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David McAuley (RySG):icann, rights holders, and community<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George Kirikos:Should list more stakeholders, e.g. registries, registrars, registrants, etc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:+1 George<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary Wong:We got it, Phil<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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PLUS registrars PLUS registrants".<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David McAuley (RySG):i have no audio this evening - glitch going on here, sorry<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David McAuley (RySG):by audio I meant mic<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David McAuley (RySG):ok thanks Paul<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George Kirikos:@DavidM: might want to use the telephone connection (it's more reliable).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather Forrest:rather than name them and perhaps miss someone, can we say 'all of the relevant stakeholders'?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George Kirikos:That new alternative language looks fine to me.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David McAuley (RySG):George, that is<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Yes. I would say registries get the least benefit from having to use the TMCH, but is the cost to us proportionate
to what the rights holders are getting?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary Wong:Are we talking about costs and benefits, or advantages and disadvantages?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Paul Tattersfield:the original question was benefits and costs<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary Wong:Will do, Phil.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kathy Kleiman:Congratulations All!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David McAuley (RySG):sing seasonal songs?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kathy Kleiman:Happy Holidays to All!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George Kirikos:So it's really only 2 pages or so.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George Kirikos:Happy holidays, folks. See you in 2017.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):could we use doodle poll?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary Wong:04:00 UTC = 20:00/ PT, 23:00/ET, 04:00 London, 05:00 CET, 15:00 Sydney, 12:00 Beijing<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):with RySG .. now it is not a conflict<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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europe but are less good for US<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather Forrest:To Susan's point, it does seem that Europe and APAC are normally the time compromisers. That said, most participants are in North America,
but maybe this is a chicken-egg problem<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather Forrest:@ Mary, that sounds practical<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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as the chat window? As this would make it easier to read wider/table formatted documents without having to horizontal scroll so often<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George Kirikos:We should decide the date, too (Wednesday vs. Thursday UTC, i.e Tuesday vs. Wednesday in North America), on the list.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary Wong:@Paul, I will ask - but I believe it is fixed<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George Kirikos:Bye everyone. Great work in 2016....looking forward to 2017.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary Wong:Happy holidays everyone! Thank you for your time!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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