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<p>Fair suggestion and perfectly timed. We closed the meeting
yesterday by agreeing to move the time of the fourth meeting each
month to an Asia-Pacific friendly time. Mary Wong will be posting
the details, but we all understood that we need to rotate the
calls to all time zones. <br>
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<p>Looking forward to your joining the call, Jonathan!</p>
<p>Best and Happy Holidays,</p>
<p>Kathy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/22/2016 2:52 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Paul@law.es">Paul@law.es</a>
ZIMBRA wrote:<br>
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<div>Fair suggestion IMHO<br>
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On 22 Dec 2016, at 5:20 AM, Jonathan Agmon <<a
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I apologize for cc’ing the entire list to this email but
I think it is only fair that this would not be a private
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attendance list is a bit of a sore spot for me since I
joined this WG. As I noted before I do want to attend
the calls but
<u>all</u> the calls are outside the time zone for the
Far East. They are always at 1am or 6am for
Singapore/Beijing time. For Australia I think it is even
worse. It is therefore unreasonable for those of us in
this part of the world to join. It is also a bit odd for
us to continuously apologize for not making the calls.
After all there is nothing to apologize for.
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the attendance. I suggest we call it “out of time zone”
or something to this effect.
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can place my name there and perhaps others from this
part of the planet who so request. I hope this will
better reflect the fact that I (and perhaps others)
would like to join the calls but we cannot. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michelle DeSmyter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rpm-wg] Mp3, Attendance &
AC Chat for Review of all Rights Protection
Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear
All,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Please
find the attendance of the call attached to this email
and the MP3 recording below for the Review of all
Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP
Working Group call held on Wednesday, 21 December
2016 at 22:00 UTC. Attendance of the call is posted on
agenda wiki page: </span><span style="color:black"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/x/BJ3DAw"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">https://community.icann.org/x/BJ3DAw</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:15.6pt"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">MP3:</span></b><span
style="color:black"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-21dec16-en.mp3"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-21dec16-en.mp3</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The
recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted
on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<a
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Please let me know if your name has been left off the
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style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Wiki
page: </span><span style="color:black"><a
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href="https://community.icann.org/x/BJ3DAw"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">https://community.icann.org/x/BJ3DAw</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
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style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thank
you.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Kind
regards,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Michelle
DeSmyter </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span></b><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><u><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Adobe
Connect chat transcript for 21 December 2016:</span></u></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black">Michelle
DeSmyter:Welcome to the Review of all Rights
Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP
Working Group call on Wednesday, 21 December 2016 at
22:00 UTC for 60 minutes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Michelle
DeSmyter:Agenda page: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_BJ3DAw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=1p-wLHOV5DCxALcMKIaTstgQyEINmRDoebHBQWYQJis&s=tm_s085ENNViOg929RdiG7gkLNsaJkDEosaPXVTs8p4&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_BJ3DAw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=1p-wLHOV5DCxALcMKIaTstgQyEINmRDoebHBQWYQJis&s=tm_s085ENNViOg929RdiG7gkLNsaJkDEosaPXVTs8p4&e=</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Philip
Corwin:Hi Michelle. I am uncharacteristically early
;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Michelle
DeSmyter:No worries - glad to have you! :) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Michelle
DeSmyter:Welcome Maxim!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim
Alzoba (FAITID):Hello Michelle, Philip<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim
Alzoba (FAITID):will type instead of using mic - it
is 1AM <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim
Alzoba (FAITID):for me<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Michelle
DeSmyter:Ouch - sounds good Maxim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:Hi folks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Paul
Tattersfield:Hi Everyeone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Steve
Levy:HI all. Happy holidays!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:@Phil, we have the redlined version ready. Let
us know if you want us to change to it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:We are at the bottom of page 5, for those who
have just joined<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim
Alzoba (FAITID):reasonably priced to allow for
protection of small local businesses?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:Accessible = affordable?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I think
affordable is too limiting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:There may be
other hinderances at play<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather
Forrest:Agree with Kristine that affordable is too
narrow a term<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Jeff
Neuman:ease of use?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin
Barnett:Agree that "access" would potentially
include cost, as well as some of the things Phil
mentioned such as language, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:I think the TMCH is translated into more
than 10 languages, see top right of <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.trademark-2Dclearinghouse.com_&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=1p-wLHOV5DCxALcMKIaTstgQyEINmRDoebHBQWYQJis&s=qXnmVBiWu8fOKCHdoFLOa_tzbqLGG9qgUPIY3modHxY&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.trademark-2Dclearinghouse.com_&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=1p-wLHOV5DCxALcMKIaTstgQyEINmRDoebHBQWYQJis&s=qXnmVBiWu8fOKCHdoFLOa_tzbqLGG9qgUPIY3modHxY&e=</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kurt
Pritz:I think guidance for this question comes from
the last prepositional clause: "in developing
countries."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Paul
Tattersfield:Can we change ‘trademark owners’ to
‘rights holders’? Because it’s important to provide
guidance for marks protected by statue and treaty as
well as trademarks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:The dictionary
says accessible means: capable of being used,
influenced, seen, understood, appreciated. I think
that word is fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather
Forrest:usable?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan
payne:Agree with Paul's replacement to rights
holders<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin
Barnett:Agree we should keep to "accessible"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kurt
Pritz:Maybe revese the sentence: Can those in
developing countries readily access trademark
clearinghouse services (as compared to other
regions)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kathy
Kleiman:Why would we change trademark owners to
rights holders?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin
Barnett:No objection to "rights holders"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Paul
Tattersfield:to include 6ter marks Kathy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:On 4.1, note the Sub Team suggestion to share
the WG findings on this with the New gTLD SubPro WG.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Steve
Levy:I like the term "confidential"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Petter
Rindforth:confidential seems better describe what we
mean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan
payne:I think we all understand closed =
confidential<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Laurie
Anderson:Closed seems to be misleading to the
general public<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kathy
Kleiman:Tx Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Jeff
Neuman:Competition affects cost; bringing the costs
down could increase use and effectiveness<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:5.1 is
about costs. One alternative to multiple providers
is to have regular competitive tenders.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Steve
Levy:Although I think TMCH competition is rather
impractical, I feel it shoudl be opened up as a
matter of principle<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:If that's the
case, then I suggest that costs will come out of our
investigation as an issue. I'm sure we'll get data
on that. And if cost is a problem, then I think
competition is a valid solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Jeff
Neuman:I offer no opinion on the question of who
should address :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Jeff
Neuman:I will only offer the opinion that this group
has the relevant expertise to understand the TMCH
and the implications of having multiple
providers. Looking at the membership of this PDP WG
we have a lot of trademark owners and users of the
TMCH. So to me it makes sense to be here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Steve
Levy:Hasn't Deloitte actually lost money on its TMCH
operation?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather
Forrest:Is CCT looking into this issue?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan
payne:Hi, I would point out that the WG suggested 2
alternative options for language on this<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:Several WG members have expressed a preference
for Option 2.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Jon
Nevett:@Steve -- we alone paid them about $1M --
can't believe that they have lost $<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan
payne:ICANN paid them too!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:Hollywood accounting? :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan
payne:old hand<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin
Barnett:I would support a further revised version of
Cat 5 Q 1: “Taking into consideration cost,
reliability, global reach, diversity of services,
consistency, and other possible factors, would it be
desirable and practical to have more than one
provider for the TMCH services? Why or why not?” <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Proposal 2
focuses on the question: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Proposal 2
focuses on the question: "what is the problem"
rather than suggesting a list....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan
payne:I prefer 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Steve
Levy:I also voted for Proposal 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan
payne:aha, for reasons Kristine is giving<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather
Forrest:I prefer the open-endedness of 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kurt
Pritz:I prefer 1 as it delineates issues<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Petter
Rindforth:I support Griffins suggested version<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin
Barnett:Proposal 2 wording seems to presuppose that
there are concerns with a single provider of TMCH
services, that's my only concern about that
formulation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Griffin, people
from the community came up with this question, so
it's safe to assume SOMEONE thinks there's a
problem. :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Vinzenz
Heussler:Griffin Barnett combined 1 and 2 rather
clever<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather
Forrest:Mary has her hand up<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I'm not following
that - visual learner. Can someone capture Phil's
most recent suggestion in writing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kathy
Kleiman:I like Phil's compromise wording<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kurt
Pritz:@ Mary - we are perilously close to agreement
- cmonsensus<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Vinzenz
Heussler:it's in the agenda/notes on the right side,
isn't it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kurt
Pritz:@ Mary "consensus"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin
Barnett:Fine with the latest compromise wording<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):Sometimes hard for notes on right to
keep up with speedy speakers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Paul
Tattersfield:Does the current single operator nature
of the TMCH optimize operational considerations as
cost, reliability, global reach, and service
diversity and consistency, or should significant
changes be considered? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin
Barnett:@Kurt -- I thought "cmonsensus" was
intentionally clever<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Proposal 4 was
Phil's right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I support that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:Proposal 3 was from Griffin, Proposal 4 is
Phil's suggestion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:thanks Mary,
Santa better be kind to you...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Laurie
Anderson:Supporting Proposal 4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Lillian
Fosteris:I like Proposal 4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin
Barnett:Agree you can remove "Why or why not" from
my proposal -- it is implied by the initial question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:I count 14 in favor of Proposal 4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather
Forrest:Are we not taking this out to other members
of the WG? I misunderstood perhaps - thought the
straw poll was going out to the list?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:@Heather, we will send out a note highlighting
that this is the proposed final set of TMCH Charter
questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Vinzenz
Heussler:costs proportionate to benefits?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim
Alzoba (FAITID):have we seen a single review of TMCH
activities from financial perspective?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):it sounds like proportionate among
those three<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):icann, rights holders, and community<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:Should list more stakeholders, e.g.
registries, registrars, registrants, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Chris
Thomas:proportional?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:+1 George<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Lillian
Fosteris:+1 Georege<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Lillian
Fosteris:George*<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim
Alzoba (FAITID):+1 George<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan
payne:Agree George but I think that;'s intended by
community<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):I agree then with the idea of listing
registries, registrars, registrant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather
Forrest:Should we split the question into multiple
parts to encourage a reply on each stakeholder?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Paul
Tattersfield:Support<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:If they're part of "community", then they
might get diluted by 1/3rd.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):registrants are part of conmunity as
well<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:We got it, Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:e.g. TM owners weighted equally as
registrars, equally as registries, equally as
registrants, is not the same as "TM Owners equal
with registries PLUS registrars PLUS registrants".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):then I suggest we specify registries,
rars, registrants<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):maybe "fairly balanced" instead of
proportionate - not sure what proportionate means<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):i have no audio this evening - glitch
going on here, sorry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Paul
Tattersfield:@David I think it was proportionate
between costs and benefits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):by audio I meant mic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):ok thanks Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan
payne:+1Kristine<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:@DavidM: might want to use the telephone
connection (it's more reliable).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):like it Phil but use among instead of
between<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather
Forrest:rather than name them and perhaps miss
someone, can we say 'all of the relevant
stakeholders'?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:That new alternative language looks fine to
me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):sorry Goerge - one with a higher
power (at home now) has phone right now and i forgot
cell in office<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):George, that is<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Paul
Tattersfield:Very much agree Susan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):Thanks Susan, that makes sense – I
was not part of subteam and do not have that history
on this and so appreciate the point you make<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Yes. I would say
registries get the least benefit from having to use
the TMCH, but is the cost to us proportionate to
what the rights holders are getting?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):sounds good<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I like reasonably
proportionate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:Are we talking about costs and benefits, or
advantages and disadvantages?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I think they're
understood to be the same.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Paul
Tattersfield:the original question was benefits and
costs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kathy
Kleiman:+1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:OK, thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I hear a chorus
of angels.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):i can hear it too - quite nice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:Will do, Phil.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan
payne:hurrah!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kathy
Kleiman:Congratulations All!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:1/2 the docs = questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):sing seasonal songs?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kathy
Kleiman:Happy Holidays to All!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Petter
Rindforth:We are the best!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:So it's really only 2 pages or so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I vote that we
bail.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:Happy holidays, folks. See you in 2017.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):agreed Phil, makes sense<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kiran
Malancharuvil:Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Griffin
Barnett:Happy to reserve this until next time<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan
payne:happy. it's 10.50 here the week before xmas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim
Alzoba (FAITID):could we use doodle poll?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:04:00 UTC = 20:00/ PT, 23:00/ET, 04:00 London,
05:00 CET, 15:00 Sydney, 12:00 Beijing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Kristine
Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:the registries<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather
Forrest:Thanks very much for keeping the time within
decent hours for APAC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim
Alzoba (FAITID):with RySG .. now it is not a
conflict<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim
Alzoba (FAITID):nice ... it is going to be 7.am
instead of 1am :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:04:00 UTC on Thursday? (so that we are still
on Wednesday night in Toronto/New York)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan
payne:well I understand and support the reason for
doing so - but I won't be on a call at 4am. Id love
to see some calls that work foir aspac, ME and
europe but are less good for US<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:Or is it 04:00 UTC on Wednesday? (meaning
that we are instead on Tuesday in North America???)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather
Forrest:To Susan's point, it does seem that Europe
and APAC are normally the time compromisers. That
said, most participants are in North America, but
maybe this is a chicken-egg problem<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:@Heather, yes - so one way we are trying to
accommodate all of this is to do this as one
rotation out of four<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather
Forrest:@ Mary, that sounds practical<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Paul
Tattersfield:Question to Staff: Would it be possible
to make the document window wider and move the
Agenda/Notes window down making it the same height
as the chat window? As this would make it easier to
read wider/table formatted documents without having
to horizontal scroll so often<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:We should decide the date, too (Wednesday
vs. Thursday UTC, i.e Tuesday vs. Wednesday in North
America), on the list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:@Paul, I will ask - but I believe it is fixed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Paul
Tattersfield:thanks Mary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> George
Kirikos:Bye everyone. Great work in 2016....looking
forward to 2017.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Michelle
DeSmyter:January 4th <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Steve
Levy:Have a great holiday and New Years everyone!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> David
McAuley (RySG):Thanks all, best wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Michelle
DeSmyter:17:00 UTC <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Mary
Wong:Happy holidays everyone! Thank you for your
time!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Maxim
Alzoba (FAITID):Happy Holidays!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Heather
Forrest:All the best for 2017 everyone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Vinzenz
Heussler:happy holidays everyone!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Paul
Tattersfield:Bye Everyone - Happy Holidays and best
for a successful 2017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Monica
Mitchell:thank you everyone. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> Laurie
Anderson:All the best in 2017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif;color:black"> susan
payne:bye<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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