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<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class="">Dear Michelle and Marry,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class="">First I apologize for cc’ing the entire list to this email but I think it is only fair that this would not be a private request.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class="">The attendance list is a bit of a sore spot for me since I joined this WG. As I noted before I do want to attend the calls but
<u class="">all</u> the calls are outside the time zone for the Far East. They are always at 1am or 6am for Singapore/Beijing time. For Australia I think it is even worse. It is therefore unreasonable for those of us in this part of the world to join. It is also a bit
odd for us to continuously apologize for not making the calls. After all there is nothing to apologize for.
<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class=""> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class="">Can I therefore please ask you to add another category to the attendance. I suggest we call it “out of time zone” or something to this effect.
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<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Michelle DeSmyter<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:30 AM<br class="">
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<b class="">Subject:</b> [gnso-rpm-wg] Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat for Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Dear All,</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class=""> </span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms
(RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group call held on Wednesday, 21 December 2016 at 22:00 UTC. Attendance of the call is posted on agenda wiki page: </span><span style="" class=""><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/BJ3DAw" class=""><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="">https://community.icann.org/x/BJ3DAw</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="" class=""> </span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:15.6pt"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">MP3:</span></b><span style="" class=""><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-21dec16-en.mp3" class=""><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-21dec16-en.mp3</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p style="line-height:15.6pt" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-2Dactivities_calendar&d=DgMFAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=_STPpuvWbrg8yQQ2JMc3Sjjz6MxqKujdkmRIaJjBRsk&s=00U1t8R-APnrMH9L5X2fY5guBRLY8t8aDSeS04DpFw8&e=" class=""><span style="color:purple" class="">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar[gnso.icann.org]</span></a></span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Mailing list archives: <a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/" class=""><span style="color:purple;background:white" class="">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/</span></a></span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Wiki page: </span><span style="" class=""><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/BJ3DAw" class=""><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" class="">https://community.icann.org/x/BJ3DAw</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thank you.</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Kind regards,</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Michelle DeSmyter </span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D" class=""> </span></b><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;" class=""><b class=""><u class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Adobe Connect chat transcript for 21 December 2016:</span></u></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class="">Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group call on Wednesday, 21 December 2016 at 22:00
UTC for 60 minutes.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_BJ3DAw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=1p-wLHOV5DCxALcMKIaTstgQyEINmRDoebHBQWYQJis&s=tm_s085ENNViOg929RdiG7gkLNsaJkDEosaPXVTs8p4&e=" class="">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_BJ3DAw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=1p-wLHOV5DCxALcMKIaTstgQyEINmRDoebHBQWYQJis&s=tm_s085ENNViOg929RdiG7gkLNsaJkDEosaPXVTs8p4&e=</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Philip Corwin:Hi Michelle. I am uncharacteristically early ;-)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Michelle DeSmyter:No worries - glad to have you! :) <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome Maxim!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Hello Michelle, Philip<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):will type instead of using mic - it is 1AM <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):for me<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Michelle DeSmyter:Ouch - sounds good Maxim<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:Hi folks.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Paul Tattersfield:Hi Everyeone<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Steve Levy:HI all. Happy holidays!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:@Phil, we have the redlined version ready. Let us know if you want us to change to it.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:We are at the bottom of page 5, for those who have just joined<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):reasonably priced to allow for protection of small local businesses?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:Accessible = affordable?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I think affordable is too limiting<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:There may be other hinderances at play<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Heather Forrest:Agree with Kristine that affordable is too narrow a term<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Jeff Neuman:ease of use?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Griffin Barnett:Agree that "access" would potentially include cost, as well as some of the things Phil mentioned such as language, etc.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:I think the TMCH is translated into more than 10 languages, see top right of <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.trademark-2Dclearinghouse.com_&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=1p-wLHOV5DCxALcMKIaTstgQyEINmRDoebHBQWYQJis&s=qXnmVBiWu8fOKCHdoFLOa_tzbqLGG9qgUPIY3modHxY&e=" class="">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.trademark-2Dclearinghouse.com_&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=1p-wLHOV5DCxALcMKIaTstgQyEINmRDoebHBQWYQJis&s=qXnmVBiWu8fOKCHdoFLOa_tzbqLGG9qgUPIY3modHxY&e=</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kurt Pritz:I think guidance for this question comes from the last prepositional clause: "in developing countries."<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Paul Tattersfield:Can we change ‘trademark owners’ to ‘rights holders’? Because it’s important to provide guidance for marks protected by statue and treaty
as well as trademarks.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:The dictionary says accessible means: capable of being used, influenced, seen, understood, appreciated. I think
that word is fine.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Heather Forrest:usable?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> susan payne:Agree with Paul's replacement to rights holders<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Griffin Barnett:Agree we should keep to "accessible"<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kurt Pritz:Maybe revese the sentence: Can those in developing countries readily access trademark clearinghouse services (as compared to other regions)?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kathy Kleiman:Why would we change trademark owners to rights holders?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Griffin Barnett:No objection to "rights holders"<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Paul Tattersfield:to include 6ter marks Kathy<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:On 4.1, note the Sub Team suggestion to share the WG findings on this with the New gTLD SubPro WG.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Steve Levy:I like the term "confidential"<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Petter Rindforth:confidential seems better describe what we mean<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> susan payne:I think we all understand closed = confidential<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Laurie Anderson:Closed seems to be misleading to the general public<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kathy Kleiman:Tx Paul<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Jeff Neuman:Competition affects cost; bringing the costs down could increase use and effectiveness<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:5.1 is about costs. One alternative to multiple providers is to have regular competitive tenders.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Steve Levy:Although I think TMCH competition is rather impractical, I feel it shoudl be opened up as a matter of principle<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:If that's the case, then I suggest that costs will come out of our investigation as an issue. I'm sure we'll
get data on that. And if cost is a problem, then I think competition is a valid solution.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Jeff Neuman:I offer no opinion on the question of who should address :)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Jeff Neuman:I will only offer the opinion that this group has the relevant expertise to understand the TMCH and the implications of having multiple providers. Looking
at the membership of this PDP WG we have a lot of trademark owners and users of the TMCH. So to me it makes sense to be here.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Steve Levy:Hasn't Deloitte actually lost money on its TMCH operation?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Heather Forrest:Is CCT looking into this issue?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> susan payne:Hi, I would point out that the WG suggested 2 alternative options for language on this<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:Several WG members have expressed a preference for Option 2.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Jon Nevett:@Steve -- we alone paid them about $1M -- can't believe that they have lost $<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> susan payne:ICANN paid them too!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:Hollywood accounting? :-)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> susan payne:old hand<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Griffin Barnett:I would support a further revised version of Cat 5 Q 1: “Taking into consideration cost, reliability, global reach, diversity of services,
consistency, and other possible factors, would it be desirable and practical to have more than one provider for the TMCH services? Why or why not?” <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Proposal 2 focuses on the question: <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Proposal 2 focuses on the question: "what is the problem" rather than suggesting a list....<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> susan payne:I prefer 2<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Steve Levy:I also voted for Proposal 2<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> susan payne:aha, for reasons Kristine is giving<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Heather Forrest:I prefer the open-endedness of 2<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kurt Pritz:I prefer 1 as it delineates issues<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Petter Rindforth:I support Griffins suggested version<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Griffin Barnett:Proposal 2 wording seems to presuppose that there are concerns with a single provider of TMCH services, that's my only concern about that
formulation<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Griffin, people from the community came up with this question, so it's safe to assume SOMEONE thinks there's a
problem. :)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Vinzenz Heussler:Griffin Barnett combined 1 and 2 rather clever<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Heather Forrest:Mary has her hand up<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I'm not following that - visual learner. Can someone capture Phil's most recent suggestion in writing?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kathy Kleiman:I like Phil's compromise wording<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kurt Pritz:@ Mary - we are perilously close to agreement - cmonsensus<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Vinzenz Heussler:it's in the agenda/notes on the right side, isn't it<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kurt Pritz:@ Mary "consensus"<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Griffin Barnett:Fine with the latest compromise wording<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):Sometimes hard for notes on right to keep up with speedy speakers<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Paul Tattersfield:Does the current single operator nature of the TMCH optimize operational considerations as cost, reliability, global reach, and service
diversity and consistency, or should significant changes be considered? <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Griffin Barnett:@Kurt -- I thought "cmonsensus" was intentionally clever<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Proposal 4 was Phil's right?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I support that.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:Proposal 3 was from Griffin, Proposal 4 is Phil's suggestion<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:thanks Mary, Santa better be kind to you...<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Laurie Anderson:Supporting Proposal 4<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Lillian Fosteris:I like Proposal 4<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Griffin Barnett:Agree you can remove "Why or why not" from my proposal -- it is implied by the initial question<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:I count 14 in favor of Proposal 4<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Heather Forrest:Are we not taking this out to other members of the WG? I misunderstood perhaps - thought the straw poll was going out to the list?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:@Heather, we will send out a note highlighting that this is the proposed final set of TMCH Charter questions<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Vinzenz Heussler:costs proportionate to benefits?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):have we seen a single review of TMCH activities from financial perspective?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):it sounds like proportionate among those three<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):icann, rights holders, and community<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:Should list more stakeholders, e.g. registries, registrars, registrants, etc.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Chris Thomas:proportional?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:+1 George<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Lillian Fosteris:+1 Georege<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Lillian Fosteris:George*<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):+1 George<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> susan payne:Agree George but I think that;'s intended by community<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):I agree then with the idea of listing registries, registrars, registrant<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Heather Forrest:Should we split the question into multiple parts to encourage a reply on each stakeholder?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Paul Tattersfield:Support<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:If they're part of "community", then they might get diluted by 1/3rd.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):registrants are part of conmunity as well<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:We got it, Phil<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:e.g. TM owners weighted equally as registrars, equally as registries, equally as registrants, is not the same as "TM Owners equal with registries
PLUS registrars PLUS registrants".<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):then I suggest we specify registries, rars, registrants<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):maybe "fairly balanced" instead of proportionate - not sure what proportionate means<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):i have no audio this evening - glitch going on here, sorry<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Paul Tattersfield:@David I think it was proportionate between costs and benefits<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):by audio I meant mic<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):ok thanks Paul<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> susan payne:+1Kristine<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:@DavidM: might want to use the telephone connection (it's more reliable).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):like it Phil but use among instead of between<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Heather Forrest:rather than name them and perhaps miss someone, can we say 'all of the relevant stakeholders'?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:That new alternative language looks fine to me.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):sorry Goerge - one with a higher power (at home now) has phone right now and i forgot cell in office<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):George, that is<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Paul Tattersfield:Very much agree Susan<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):Thanks Susan, that makes sense – I was not part of subteam and do not have that history on this and so appreciate the point you make<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Yes. I would say registries get the least benefit from having to use the TMCH, but is the cost to us proportionate
to what the rights holders are getting?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):sounds good<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I like reasonably proportionate.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:Are we talking about costs and benefits, or advantages and disadvantages?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I think they're understood to be the same.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Paul Tattersfield:the original question was benefits and costs<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kathy Kleiman:+1<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:OK, thanks<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I hear a chorus of angels.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):i can hear it too - quite nice<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:Will do, Phil.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> susan payne:hurrah!!!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kathy Kleiman:Congratulations All!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:1/2 the docs = questions<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):sing seasonal songs?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kathy Kleiman:Happy Holidays to All!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Petter Rindforth:We are the best!!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:So it's really only 2 pages or so.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I vote that we bail.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:Happy holidays, folks. See you in 2017.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):agreed Phil, makes sense<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kiran Malancharuvil:Thanks!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Griffin Barnett:Happy to reserve this until next time<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> susan payne:happy. it's 10.50 here the week before xmas<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):could we use doodle poll?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:04:00 UTC = 20:00/ PT, 23:00/ET, 04:00 London, 05:00 CET, 15:00 Sydney, 12:00 Beijing<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:the registries<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Heather Forrest:Thanks very much for keeping the time within decent hours for APAC<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):with RySG .. now it is not a conflict<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):nice ... it is going to be 7.am instead of 1am :)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:04:00 UTC on Thursday? (so that we are still on Wednesday night in Toronto/New York)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> susan payne:well I understand and support the reason for doing so - but I won't be on a call at 4am. Id love to see some calls that work foir aspac, ME and
europe but are less good for US<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:Or is it 04:00 UTC on Wednesday? (meaning that we are instead on Tuesday in North America???)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Heather Forrest:To Susan's point, it does seem that Europe and APAC are normally the time compromisers. That said, most participants are in North America,
but maybe this is a chicken-egg problem<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:@Heather, yes - so one way we are trying to accommodate all of this is to do this as one rotation out of four<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Heather Forrest:@ Mary, that sounds practical<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Paul Tattersfield:Question to Staff: Would it be possible to make the document window wider and move the Agenda/Notes window down making it the same height
as the chat window? As this would make it easier to read wider/table formatted documents without having to horizontal scroll so often<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:We should decide the date, too (Wednesday vs. Thursday UTC, i.e Tuesday vs. Wednesday in North America), on the list.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:@Paul, I will ask - but I believe it is fixed<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Paul Tattersfield:thanks Mary<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> George Kirikos:Bye everyone. Great work in 2016....looking forward to 2017.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Michelle DeSmyter:January 4th <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Steve Levy:Have a great holiday and New Years everyone!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> David McAuley (RySG):Thanks all, best wishes<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Michelle DeSmyter:17:00 UTC <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Mary Wong:Happy holidays everyone! Thank you for your time!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Happy Holidays!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Heather Forrest:All the best for 2017 everyone<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Vinzenz Heussler:happy holidays everyone!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Paul Tattersfield:Bye Everyone - Happy Holidays and best for a successful 2017<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: -webkit-standard, serif;" class=""> Monica Mitchell:thank you everyone. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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