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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thanks Mary. This seems like a sound approach, but I welcome other viewpoints.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mary Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 09, 2017 8:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeff Neuman; Paul Keating; Mathieu Weill; gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] [Ext] RE: Follow up from WG call this week<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This is just a brief note to add the staff perspective that it may indeed be more appropriate to first ensure that the registries in question do not object to our contacting their back end providers. We can
include this query in the cover note to be sent accompanying the survey, and either request that registries feel free to have their providers give us the feedback, or suggest we send the survey on to their providers with their permission.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’m not sure that in either case we will get many responses, given the additional step involved, but if we receive permission to contact the providers, ICANN staff should be able to assist with sending out
the requests (though not without some additional work).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Mary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Mary Wong<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, January 9, 2017 at 15:10<br>
<b>To: </b>Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es">Paul@law.es</a>>, Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>>, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ext] RE: [gnso-rpm-wg] Follow up from WG call this week<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">In many cases, the providers do not have the right to provide answers on behalf of the registries. I think reaching out to the registries themselves is the way to
go with the explanation that these questions may need to be answered by their back end providers.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Keating<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 9, 2017 8:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>>; Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Follow up from WG call this week</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Why not ensure that the survey is being sent to the providers as well?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Mathieu Weill <<a href="mailto:mathieu.weill@afnic.fr">mathieu.weill@afnic.fr</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, January 9, 2017 at 12:44 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>, <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Follow up from WG call this week</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Dear Mary, Dear Colleagues,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thanks for putting together the survey. I believe this may somewhat help collect more responses, but would like to reiterate a comment I made in the chat (although it got no traction at the time,
but my audio was limited) during the last call. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">My organization, Afnic, is one of the few who submitted a response to the survey so far. We did it on behalf of one of our clients, the City of Paris. I have significant concerns about reaching
out directly to registries, for the following reasons : </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in">-<span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">The questions are extremely technical, and most of our clients would be completely lost</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in">-<span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">There is no clear benefit for registries to invest time in answering this survey. The TMCH is often “dealt with” by a partner / provider.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I understand the need to collect data from registries, but would suggest either of two options :
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in">1)<span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Consider that the low level of responses is an information in itself, and leave it at that.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in">2)<span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Reach out to registry service providers rather than registries to collect more meaningful data.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Just my two cents as a respondent to the survey. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Best</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Mathieu</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>De la part d</b></span><b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">e</span></b><span lang="FR" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> Mary Wong<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> vendredi 6 janvier 2017 23:08<br>
<b>À :</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> [gnso-rpm-wg] Follow up from WG call this week</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Dear all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">As requested during the Working Group call held earlier this week, staff has put all the questions that were sent to the Registries Stakeholder Group by the TMCH Data Gathering Sub Team into a
survey format. You can preview and test it here: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.surveymonkey.com_r_Preview_-3Fsm-3Dtwhcvzt1lfNFkO-5F2BF7lNnr7iX41Ca6gce-5F2BEqGy7WKuGCzlJFTYJqbEcIQPe6n2COQ&d=DgMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=QT0Uk_mO6w4iPS3jycsCHssYAEvCjpNrAXi-t9jVsMs&s=Tb4D1mPy40jR24WQ0MgaleL6V6Kn1MW3_iTP-vvGi7c&e=">
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/Preview/?sm=twhcvzt1lfNFkO_2BF7lNnr7iX41Ca6gce_2BEqGy7WKuGCzlJFTYJqbEcIQPe6n2COQ[surveymonkey.com]</a>.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Please note that while we have retained almost all of the text of the original questions, in a few places we have rearranged their order or converted a question into a statement inviting comment.
However, we do not believe we have changed any of the scope or intent of the questions, and we have not otherwise edited, deleted or added any questions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Also as agreed on the call, staff will work with the co-chairs to transmit this survey to specific registry operators (especially those offering blocking mechanism services who have not yet responded
to the original solicitation for feedback) and via the registry members of this Working Group.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Thanks and cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Mary</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Mary Wong</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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mary.wong@icann.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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