<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">A few observations:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Rebecca's examples do not include the registration information that would normally be submitted to the TMCH. It would probably be more helpful to include that, or at least ask how that's taken into account in the overall process.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I'm not in favor of an ICANN Working Group reverse engineering all or any part of the TMCH database, which would be counter to the restrictions on availability of TMCH data as specified by ICANN.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think it would be more fruitful to ask for the reasons why the TMCH accepted certain "design marks" and rejected others.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We should also find out whether and how disclaimers are taken into consideration. The last mark on Rebecca's list can be used for that -- the CARS Plus Design mark was registered for clothing (by Disney) without a disclaimer.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I share the concerns brought up by J Scott, Lori and Brian in this thread.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Finally, I note that the term "design marks" at least as we are using it, covers a number of different concepts.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">In the examples, the PARENTS mark is a stylized or "special form" mark, which is different from the word plus design marks in the other two examples. Stylized marks consist of the word in a particular font or style but without other design elements. Some might not consider a special form mark a design mark at all.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Word plus design marks are different, and even those may be broken down into composite marks (made up of separable elements) and others.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">In any event, the bottom line should be that the TMCH does not second guess a national trademark registry with regard to validity of the mark.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I'll also observe that there still seems to be some different understandings of what we are trying to accomplish here. That should be clarified before we proceed.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></p><div><p style="text-indent:0in"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><a name="UNIQUE_ID_SafeHtmlFilter_UNIQUE_ID_SafeHtmlFilter__GoBack"></a></span><b style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#002e62">Greg
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Paul Keating <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es" target="_blank">Paul@law.es</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">As George has noted there are many work-arounds to any potential issue.</font></div><div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">However, none of the concerns I have heard weigh in favor of not asking for the information.</font></div><div><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><div><div style="font-family:Calibri"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sincerely,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Paul Raynor Keating, Esq.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a href="http://law.es/" style="color:purple" target="_blank">Law.es</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Tel. <a href="tel:+34%20933%2068%2002%2047" value="+34933680247" target="_blank">+34 93 368 0247</a> (Spain)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Tel. <a href="tel:+44%207531%20400177" value="+447531400177" target="_blank">+44.7531.400.177</a> (UK)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(102,102,102)">Tel. <a href="tel:(415)%20937-0846" value="+14159370846" target="_blank">+1.415.937.0846</a> (US)</span></b></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Fax. 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IN THE ABSENCE OF SUCH AN AGREEMENT, NOTHING CONTAINED HEREIN SHALL CONSTITUTE LEGAL ADVICE<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></div><span id="m_-4834931665866741352OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"><span class=""><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> "J. Scott Evans" <<a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com" target="_blank">jsevans@adobe.com</a>><br></span><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 5:56 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Lori Schulman <<a href="mailto:lschulman@inta.org" target="_blank">lschulman@inta.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank">paul@law.es</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><div><div class="h5"><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] List of examples for Deloitte (Re: Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February)<br></div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><blockquote id="m_-4834931665866741352MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT:#b5c4df 5 solid;PADDING:0 0 0 5;MARGIN:0 0 0 5"><div><div dir="auto"><div>Exactly <br><br>
Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>
On Feb 22, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Lori Schulman <<a href="mailto:lschulman@inta.org" target="_blank">lschulman@inta.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="m_-4834931665866741352WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Paul,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Before J Scott weighs in, I would imagine that any disclosure of any registrations would be a violation of confidentiality between the Clearinghouse and the Registrant. It’s
been a while since I have personally registered anything in the TMCH but my understanding is that there is a promise of nondisclosure except in instances where claims notices would be generated to potential registrants of conflicting names.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Lori<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#595959">Lori S. Schulman<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#595959">Senior Director, Internet Policy<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#595959">International Trademark Association (INTA)<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#595959"><a href="tel:(202)%20704-0408" value="+12027040408" target="_blank">+1-202-704-0408</a>, Skype: lsschulman<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><image001.jpg></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Keating<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 22, 2017 4:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> J. Scott Evans <<a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com" target="_blank">jsevans@adobe.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] List of examples for Deloitte (Re: Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">J. Scott,</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I see no reason why we cannot ask for this information. It is a discreet set of data points that is of material importance. </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Can you please provide an explanation for your opposition?</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Paul<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">"J. Scott Evans" <<a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com" target="_blank">jsevans@adobe.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 3:32 PM<br><b>To: </b>Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank">paul@law.es</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>Georges Nahitchevansky <<a href="mailto:ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com" target="_blank">ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com</a>>, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] List of examples for Deloitte (Re: Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0in" id="m_-4834931665866741352MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I am not in favor of asking the TMCH to disclose any marks that are registered. I am not opposed to asking the TMCH if there are marks fundamentally similar to
our examples that registered.<br><br>
Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
On Feb 22, 2017, at 1:23 PM, Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es" target="_blank">Paul@law.es</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Then I s suggest we do both?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Send the examples AND ask for the list.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Paul<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Georges Nahitchevansky <<a href="mailto:ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com" target="_blank">ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 2:00 PM<br><b>To: </b>"J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg" <<a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com" target="_blank">jsevans@adobe.com</a>>, Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank">paul@law.es</a>>, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] List of examples for Deloitte (Re: Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0in" id="m_-4834931665866741352MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">+1<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><table class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width:100.0%;background:white;border-spacing:0px"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt;font-size:initial;text-align:initial"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Sent: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Wednesday, February 22, 2017 5:48 AM<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">To: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Paul Keating; Mary Wong<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Reply To: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">J. Scott Evans<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Cc: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Subject: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] List of examples for Deloitte (Re: Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Team:</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I disagree with Paul. I think asking Deloitte to tell us if the textual elements of Rebecca’s examples and for an explanation of their analysis would be very enlightening
and helpful.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">J. Scott Evans</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a><wbr>> on behalf of Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank">paul@law.es</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 12:10 AM<br><b>To: </b>Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] List of examples for Deloitte (Re: Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February)</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">While a laudable effort imho this will not likely receive a useful response. It might be more productive to simply request a list of those<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4834931665866741352AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Figurative marks that have been accepted. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4834931665866741352AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4834931665866741352AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Alternatively ask what rules are applied in practice to determine the "prominent" textual aspects of a figurative mark. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4834931665866741352AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id="m_-4834931665866741352AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The issue I feel is not the figurative containing textual elements otherwise registrable. Rather we are really after a figurative mark used to protect a textual element not otherwise protectable as a trademark.
E.g. "Fast Cars" with a green squiggly mark to claim rights in fast cars to sell automobiles. <br><br>
Sincerely, <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Paul Keating, Esq.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black"><br>
On Feb 22, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear all,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I’m sending this message on behalf of Rebecca Tushnet in relation to one Action Item from the 15 February Working Group call. This was for her to take the lead
in suggesting some examples of design marks that we can send to Deloitte for their opinion on whether the examples will or will not likely be accepted into the TMCH.
</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Please review the attached examples and send your comments to this list. Thank you.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Cheers</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Mary</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, February 20, 2017 at 12:23<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear all,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">This is just a gentle reminder to circulate your suggestions
<u>this week</u> for follow up questions and clarifications for Deloitte, based on the Working Group’s discussions to date of the tables for Categories 1 – 6.
</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">To assist those who were not able to attend both sessions where the tables were discussed:</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Wiki page containing call recording, transcript and updated table from 15 February (discussion of Categories 3 – 6):
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/TZ3DAw" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/<wbr>TZ3DAw</a></span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Wiki page containing call recording, transcript, AC chat, updated table from 8 February (last discussion of Categories 1 -2), and compilation of TMCH Dispute Resolution Procedures:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/Q53DAw" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/<wbr>x/Q53DAw</a>.
</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks and cheers</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Mary</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 18:37<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear all,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Please find attached the updated Tabular Summary for Categories 3-6 for your review (also posted to the Working Group wiki page with notes and recordings for this
call, at <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/TZ3DAw)" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/<wbr>TZ3DAw)</a>. Please also note the following action items, which are also reflected in the updated table.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Action Items</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">:</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On Q7 (design marks) – Rebecca Tushnet to take the lead in developing a few examples of hypothetical design marks for sending to Deloitte for their views</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On Q8 (Geographical Indicators) – Staff to confirm with OriGIn who may be able to submit G.I.s.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On Q9 (TM+50) – Working Group to review questions submitted by the Registries Stakeholder Group with a view toward agreement on whether to send them on to Deloitte</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On Q14 (Accessibility) – Working Group to consider if there are additional/alternative sources that can provide us with more information.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">[From last week] – please review the updated Tabular Summary for Categories 1 & 2 from last week and submit any follow up questions or suggestions for Deloitte to this mailing
list. The updated document is available under Follow Up Notes from the wiki page notes of the call last week:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/Q53DAw" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/<wbr>Q53DAw</a>.
</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">[From last week] – please review the TMCH Dispute Resolution Procedures and suggest areas for discussion or follow up to this mailing list. The updated document is available
under Follow Up Notes from the wiki page notes of the call last week: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/Q53DAw" target="_blank">
https://community.icann.org/x/<wbr>Q53DAw</a>. </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Next Steps</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">:</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Staff will compile additional suggestions received from Working Group members on possible questions and requests for follow up with Deloitte, from both Tabular Summaries for
Categories 1 & 2 (from last week) and for Categories 3-6. </span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:red">Please try to submit your feedback by close of business in your time zone on Tuesday 21 February at the latest</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">
so that we can have a full list ready as soon as possible.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thank you.</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Cheers</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Mary</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 11:08<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Proposed agenda and documents for RPM Working Group call on 15 February</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear all,</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The proposed agenda for the next Working Group call, scheduled for 15 February 2017 at 1700 UTC, is as follows:</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:black">1.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Roll call (via Adobe Connect and phone bridge only); updates to Statements of Interest</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:black">2.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Review table for Categories 3-6, with view to developing additional questions for Deloitte or that require further information</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:black">3.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Next steps/next meeting</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Please note that the table for Agenda Item #2 had been circulated previously, on 6 February, and is also available on our Working Group wiki space here:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/_pHRAw" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/<wbr>_pHRAw</a>.
</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Please note also the Action Items from the meeting last week, which were as follows:</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Over the next week, WG members to review the table for Categories 1 & 2 and the discussions to date, in order for staff to compile and send all follow up questions to Deloitte
before ICANN58 so as to have an informed discussion with them at ICANN58 (updated table was circulated on 10 February and is also available here:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/_pHRAw)" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/<wbr>_pHRAw)</a></span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="m_-4834931665866741352MsoListParagraph"><span style="color:black">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:black">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">WG members to also review the TMCH Dispute Resolution Procedures and agree on any follow up questions for Deloitte (the Procedures were circulated on 10 February and are also
available here: <a href="http://trademark-clearinghouse.com/dispute)" target="_blank">http://trademark-<wbr>clearinghouse.com/dispute)</a>.
</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks and cheers</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Mary</span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><List of marks to ask Deloitte about - from Rebecca Tushnet - 22 Feb 2017.docx></span><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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