<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14.666666984558105px;">3.2.4 Other marks that constitute intellectual property.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14.666666984558105px;"><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14.666666984558105px;"><br></span></div><div><font face="Calibri" size="3">I</font><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14.666666984558105px;"> confess to not having read the document in a long time (Mary could you provide a link?). However, the above seems to include virtually any type of mark including the figurative element/design marks we have been discussing.</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14.666666984558105px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14.666666984558105px;">PRK</span></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 8:12 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>, "Beckham, Brian" <<a href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> "<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] List of examples for Deloitte (Re: Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February)<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Title" content=""><meta name="Keywords" content=""><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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--></style><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Hello all – in response to Brian and Greg, I’m forwarding the message below on behalf of Rebecca Tushnet, as her email does not seem to have reached the full mailing list.
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">In addition, Working Group members may wish to review the final TMCH framework document that was published in the final version of the Applicant Guidebook (AGB) in June 2012, following
previous versions that had appeared in earlier iterations (AGB v4 through 9) based on ICANN staff implementation of the STI recommendations. The final TMCH framework notes that the standards for inclusion into the TMCH are:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">3.2.1 Nationally or regionally registered word marks from all jurisdictions.
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">3.2.2 Any word mark that has been validated through a court of law or other judicial proceeding.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">3.2.3 Any word mark protected by a statute or treaty in effect at the time the mark is submitted to the Clearinghouse for inclusion.
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">3.2.4 Other marks that constitute intellectual property.
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Here is Rebecca’s email, in full:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">As I'm still having trouble posting to the list, I'd appreciate it if someone would forward this. >From the Recommendations of the Special TM Issues Review Team, 2009, reflecting both the
rough consensus and the business constituency minority:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">The TC Database should be<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">required to include nationally<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">or multinationally registered “text mark” trademarks, from<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">all jurisdictions, (including<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">countries where there is no substantive review). (The<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">trademarks to be included in<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">the TC are text marks because<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">“design marks” provide<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">protection for letters and<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">words only within the context<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">of their design or logo and the<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">STI was under a mandate not<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">to expand existing trademark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">rights.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Many members of this working group believe that the TMCH shouldn't make "judgment calls" limiting registrants' entitlements under the TMCH system. This is an understandable conclusion,
and one I'm inclined to endorse for ease of implementation, but one that has the practical effect of expanding the ability of registrants to control domain names beyond the goods and services for which their marks are registered. At the very least, the same
modesty of judgment counsels against the TMCH making judgments about what the important parts of a registered mark are, given the mandate not to expand rights. If someone does have a registration for a word mark without design elements, they can submit it.
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">In response to Greg Shatan’s note, I’m happy to add in additional information that would help Deloitte evaluate the registration, though I doubt I want to shell out for verified copies
of the registrations at issue. I have added in a question at the beginning of my list to ask for clarification of what qualifies as “prominent” in Deloitte’s inquiry.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">In response to Brian Winterfeldt’s specific concerns, I don’t think the issue the Working Group is concerned with is simply with “generic” terms—though given the TMCH’s coverage of domain
names regardless of the underlying goods and services, the fact that PARENTS might not be generic for a magazine about parenting is not particularly significant, as our previous discussions of registrations for “and,” “the,” etc. indicate.
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I used “parents” because of Gruner + Jahr USA Pub. v. Meredith Corp., 991 F.2d 1072, 1077 (2d Cir. 1993) (“[T]he district court ... properly distinguished between the strength of the trademark
PARENTS and the weak, descriptive nature of what it called the ‘mere word “parents”.’ … [T]he trademark registration of the title PARENTS in its distinctive typeface did not confer an exclusive right to plaintiff on variations of the word ‘parent,’ such term
being more generic than descriptive.”). I thought CARS was a strong additional suggestion because of the clear limit on Disney’s rights to the term with associated image. I added FRUIT OF THE LOOM at J. Scott’s suggestion. It seems to me that FRUIT OF THE
LOOM makes a good test case precisely because of the issue Brian W. identifies: by using the graphic version we can see whether Deloitte is in fact making judgments about what’s “important” in the registration submitted to it. The question is not whether textual
matter standing alone is registrable; the question is whether it is registered. My understanding is that this was an important limit on the TMCH, which by consensus does not cover common-law rights that may exist in variants on a registered mark. So this
is a mark that could help us understand what Deloitte is doing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">A small point about Brian W's statement that “our preliminary search did not yield a basic word mark for CARS owned by the same entity as the listed CARS design mark (Disney), this is likely
because they only use the design mark in commerce and would not be able to show actual use in commerce of the basic word mark, a fundamental requirement of trademark registration in the US”: In fact, where a word mark is used only in one font or with one design,
it can still be registered as a word mark (in standard character form) as long as the word standing alone is registrable. Thus, use in commerce of a stylized version of a word constitutes “use in commerce” of the associated word. The barrier to Disney’s registration
of CARS as a standard character mark is assuredly not “use in commerce”; it is the more fundamental issue of whether CARS can serve as a trademark without its recognizable stylization indicating the Disney franchise. See Citigroup Inc. v. Capital City Bank
Group, Inc., 637 F.3d 1344 (Fed. Cir. 2011) (explaining the scope of a standard character mark).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I think it’s a great idea to add an example of “marks where the underlying word element is expressly disclaimed in the registration.” MUSIC has been suggested, which I think is a very good
example, as well as stylized letters such as A. The recently litigated OWN YOUR POWER case, where the Second Circuit noted that there was no claim to the words apart from their stylized presentation, says instead “[t]he color(s) light blue is/are claimed
as a feature of the mark,” and so it is probably also worth adding.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:59<br><b>To: </b>"Beckham, Brian" <<a href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] List of examples for Deloitte (Re: Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana">Brian,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana">Thanks for asking that. I'm sure it's "somewhere" we could find it eventually, but having it in this thread would be very helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana">Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p><a name="UNIQUE_ID_SafeHtmlFilter_UNIQUE_ID_SafeH"></a><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#002E62">Greg Shatan<br></span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">C: 917-816-6428<br>
S: gsshatan<br>
Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428<br></span><a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1155CC">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Beckham, Brian <<a href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int" target="_blank">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Kathy, all, particularly further to Greg's concluding question (re different understandings of what we are trying to achieve), would you be so kind as to remind us what it was the GNSO said on this? Did the recommendations e.g. bar all
marks with stylized text or design elements (which would seem in trademark law terms to be a somewhat misguided overcorrection) or was the recommendation concerned with marks in which the entire textual element was disclaimed? It seems that much of the discussion
here on generic vs dictionary terms at least is rightly focused on the latter, but clarity would be welcome.
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br>
Brian <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 22 February 2017 at 18:39:58 GMT, Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 8.0pt;margin-left:0in;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class="m846837141421511435null">I agree with J. Scott that asking Deloitte to tell us "if the textual elements of Rebecca’s examples and for an explanation of their analysis would be very enlightening and helpful." It is good to wrestle with real world issues
through real world examples. Tx you, Rebecca, for providing this input.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null">Re: Paul's suggestion, why not add to our questions for Deloitte the one he has shared: "what rules are applied in practice to determine the "prominent" textual aspects of a figurative mark?" These seems quite relevant to
our work. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null">Frankly, I think we have to wrestle too with the question of why Deloitte is accepting figurative marks at all -- particularly when the GNSO Policy Recommendations (as adopted by the GNSO Council and then the Board) appear
to bar them in favor of text marks/word marks only. But that's a question for a different time...
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null">Best, Kathy<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 2/22/2017 5:48 AM, J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Team:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">I disagree with Paul. I think asking Deloitte to tell us if the textual elements of Rebecca’s examples and for an explanation of their analysis would
be very enlightening and helpful.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">J. Scott Evans</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From:
</span></b></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org></a> on behalf of Paul Keating
<a href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank"><paul@law.es></a></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 12:10 AM</span><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b>To: </b>Mary Wong <a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">
<mary.wong@icann.org></a></span><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">"gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"</a><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org></a></span><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] List of examples for Deloitte (Re: Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February)</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="m846837141421511435null"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="m846837141421511435null">While a laudable effort imho this will not likely receive a useful response. It might be more productive to simply request a list of those<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="m_846837141421511435AppleMailSignature"><p class="m846837141421511435null">Figurative marks that have been accepted. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="m_846837141421511435AppleMailSignature"><p class="m846837141421511435null"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="m_846837141421511435AppleMailSignature"><p class="m846837141421511435null">Alternatively ask what rules are applied in practice to determine the "prominent" textual aspects of a figurative mark. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="m_846837141421511435AppleMailSignature"><p class="m846837141421511435null"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="m_846837141421511435AppleMailSignature"><p class="m846837141421511435null">The issue I feel is not the figurative containing textual elements otherwise registrable. Rather we are really after a figurative mark used to protect a textual element not otherwise protectable as a trademark. E.g. "Fast
Cars" with a green squiggly mark to claim rights in fast cars to sell automobiles. <br><br>
Sincerely, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="m846837141421511435null">Paul Keating, Esq.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="m846837141421511435null" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On Feb 22, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Dear all,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">I’m sending this message on behalf of Rebecca Tushnet in relation to one Action Item from the 15 February Working Group call. This was for her to take
the lead in suggesting some examples of design marks that we can send to Deloitte for their opinion on whether the examples will or will not likely be accepted into the TMCH.
</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Please review the attached examples and send your comments to this list. Thank you.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Cheers</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Mary</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From:
</span></b></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b>Date: </b>Monday, February 20, 2017 at 12:23</span><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>></span><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b>Subject: </b>Re: Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="m846837141421511435null"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Dear all,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">This is just a gentle reminder to circulate your suggestions
<u>this week</u> for follow up questions and clarifications for Deloitte, based on the Working Group’s discussions to date of the tables for Categories 1 – 6.
</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">To assist those who were not able to attend both sessions where the tables were discussed:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="">·</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Wiki page containing call recording, transcript and updated table from 15 February (discussion of Categories 3 – 6):
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_TZ3DAw&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=X66K9caYEoesx6I9Gw-eJWyvmgOmbp_r6xvZA5x2FgQ&s=Qt2QTRs25jH_1CnKMQDKf2F7trz_uimEoIfoKfebP5s&e=" target="_blank">
https://community.icann.org/x/TZ3DAw[community.icann.org]</a> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="">·</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Wiki page containing call recording, transcript, AC chat, updated table from 8 February (last discussion of Categories 1 -2), and compilation of TMCH Dispute Resolution Procedures:
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_Q53DAw&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=X66K9caYEoesx6I9Gw-eJWyvmgOmbp_r6xvZA5x2FgQ&s=wrn2oyD8tErE8p9Q2rSq5q_szqe97dHGScuhKZOmsIU&e=" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/Q53DAw[community.icann.org]</a>.
</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Thanks and cheers</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Mary</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From:
</span></b></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b>Date: </b>Thursday, February 16, 2017 at 18:37</span><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>></span><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b>Subject: </b>Action items and updated documents from Working Group call of 15 February</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="m846837141421511435null"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Dear all,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Please find attached the updated Tabular Summary for Categories 3-6 for your review (also posted to the Working Group wiki page with notes and recordings
for this call, at <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_TZ3DAw-2529&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=X66K9caYEoesx6I9Gw-eJWyvmgOmbp_r6xvZA5x2FgQ&s=025Rt5ujT8eWdaiBWLQaAk3-xDpzR24t1l4DlLC9YGo&e=" target="_blank">
https://community.icann.org/x/TZ3DAw)[community.icann.org]</a>. Please also note the following action items, which are also reflected in the updated table.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><u><span style="font-family:Calibri">Action Items</span></u></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="">·</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">On Q7 (design marks) – Rebecca Tushnet to take the lead in developing a few examples of hypothetical design marks for sending to Deloitte for their views</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="">·</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">On Q8 (Geographical Indicators) – Staff to confirm with OriGIn who may be able to submit G.I.s.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="">·</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">On Q9 (TM+50) – Working Group to review questions submitted by the Registries Stakeholder Group with a view toward agreement on whether to send them on to Deloitte</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="">·</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">On Q14 (Accessibility) – Working Group to consider if there are additional/alternative sources that can provide us with more information.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="">·</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">[From last week] – please review the updated Tabular Summary for Categories 1 & 2 from last week and submit any follow up questions or suggestions for Deloitte to this mailing
list. The updated document is available under Follow Up Notes from the wiki page notes of the call last week:
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_Q53DAw&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=X66K9caYEoesx6I9Gw-eJWyvmgOmbp_r6xvZA5x2FgQ&s=wrn2oyD8tErE8p9Q2rSq5q_szqe97dHGScuhKZOmsIU&e=" target="_blank">
https://community.icann.org/x/Q53DAw[community.icann.org]</a>. </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="">·</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">[From last week] – please review the TMCH Dispute Resolution Procedures and suggest areas for discussion or follow up to this mailing list. The updated document is available
under Follow Up Notes from the wiki page notes of the call last week: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_Q53DAw&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=X66K9caYEoesx6I9Gw-eJWyvmgOmbp_r6xvZA5x2FgQ&s=wrn2oyD8tErE8p9Q2rSq5q_szqe97dHGScuhKZOmsIU&e=" target="_blank">
https://community.icann.org/x/Q53DAw[community.icann.org]</a>. </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><u><span style="font-family:Calibri">Next Steps</span></u></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="">·</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Staff will compile additional suggestions received from Working Group members on possible questions and requests for follow up with Deloitte, from both Tabular Summaries
for Categories 1 & 2 (from last week) and for Categories 3-6. <b><span style="color:red">Please try to submit your feedback by close of business in your time zone on Tuesday 21 February at the latest</span></b> so that we can have a full list ready as soon
as possible.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Thank you.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Cheers</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Mary</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From:
</span></b></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 11:08</span><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>></span><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><b>Subject: </b>Proposed agenda and documents for RPM Working Group call on 15 February</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="m846837141421511435null"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Dear all,</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">The proposed agenda for the next Working Group call, scheduled for 15 February 2017 at 1700 UTC, is as follows:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1">1.</span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Roll call (via Adobe Connect and phone bridge only); updates to Statements of Interest</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1">2.</span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Review table for Categories 3-6, with view to developing additional questions for Deloitte or that require further information</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1">3.</span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Next steps/next meeting</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Please note that the table for Agenda Item #2 had been circulated previously, on 6 February, and is also available on our Working Group wiki space here:
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_-5FpHRAw&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=X66K9caYEoesx6I9Gw-eJWyvmgOmbp_r6xvZA5x2FgQ&s=49rZxYXNglwZKhpVIrqQP4kKxD0f3M2LZaxSUlV7W_Q&e=" target="_blank">
https://community.icann.org/x/_pHRAw[community.icann.org]</a>. </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Please note also the Action Items from the meeting last week, which were as follows:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="">·</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Over the next week, WG members to review the table for Categories 1 & 2 and the discussions to date, in order for staff to compile and send all follow up questions to Deloitte
before ICANN58 so as to have an informed discussion with them at ICANN58 (updated table was circulated on 10 February and is also available here:
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_-5FpHRAw-2529&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=X66K9caYEoesx6I9Gw-eJWyvmgOmbp_r6xvZA5x2FgQ&s=_a59DAF6e_16_FbV-1zCG7E6SSf_itKWaJZFpbRTEh0&e=" target="_blank">
https://community.icann.org/x/_pHRAw)[community.icann.org]</a> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="">·</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span></span><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">WG members to also review the TMCH Dispute Resolution Procedures and agree on any follow up questions for Deloitte (the Procedures were circulated on 10 February and are
also available here: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__trademark-2Dclearinghouse.com_dispute-2529&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=X66K9caYEoesx6I9Gw-eJWyvmgOmbp_r6xvZA5x2FgQ&s=LHthSya6UTxD7UfKK5pOd0VfPW-Aatgp2_M2QycIEUE&e=" target="_blank">
http://trademark-clearinghouse.com/dispute)[trademark-clearinghouse.com]</a>. </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Thanks and cheers</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri">Mary</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><span style="font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><List of marks to ask Deloitte about - from Rebecca Tushnet - 22 Feb 2017.docx></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="m846837141421511435null"><span class="m846837141421511435null1">_______________________________________________</span><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1">gnso-rpm-wg mailing list</span><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a></span><br><span class="m846837141421511435null1"><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>gnso-rpm-wg mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">World Intellectual Property Organization Disclaimer: This electronic message may contain privileged, confidential and copyright
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