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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Paul Keating <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es" target="_blank">Paul@law.es</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Well it was written but some relatively heavies in the legal field.<br>
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On 3/28/17, 4:42 PM, "Kiran Malancharuvil via gnso-rpm-wg"<br>
<span class="im HOEnZb"><<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> on behalf of <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">>Many of the signatories aren't members of the working group. When<br>
>input/comment is received by an ICANN working group by outside parties,<br>
>the working group often invites those people to attend a meeting to<br>
>facilitate the discussion so that there can be meaningful dialogue and a<br>
>better common understanding of the issues raised.<br>
><br>
>There is a prescribed time in the icann policy development process for<br>
>solicitation of comments, as well as review and consideration of public<br>
>comment. My question (for staff, to be clear) is why we are considering<br>
>this public comment out of turn. Why does it have elevated importance?<br>
><br>
>Thanks,<br>
><br>
>Kiran<br>
><br>
>Kiran Malancharuvil<br>
>Policy Counselor<br>
>MarkMonitor<br>
><a href="tel:415-419-9138" value="+14154199138">415-419-9138</a> (m)<br>
><br>
>Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.<br>
><br>
>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 8:33 AM, Rebecca Tushnet<br>
>><<a href="mailto:Rebecca.Tushnet@law.georgetown.edu">Rebecca.Tushnet@law.<wbr>georgetown.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> (1) Yes. (2) Invited by whom? (3) It's my understanding that all<br>
>> comments should be considered; are you aware of any we're ignoring?<br>
>> Rebecca Tushnet<br>
>> Georgetown Law<br>
>> <a href="tel:703%20593%206759" value="+17035936759">703 593 6759</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Kiran Malancharuvil via gnso-rpm-wg<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Agree with Jeff.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Also, are these "trademark scholars" represented in the group? Are<br>
>>>they invited in for discussion? Why is this letter any more important<br>
>>>than any other public comment?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Kiran<br>
>>><br>
>>> Kiran Malancharuvil<br>
>>> Policy Counselor<br>
>>> MarkMonitor<br>
>>> <a href="tel:415-419-9138" value="+14154199138">415-419-9138</a> (m)<br>
>>><br>
>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mar 28, 2017, at 7:54 AM, Jeff Neuman<br>
>>><<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a><<wbr>mailto:<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.<wbr>com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks Mary.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Co-Chairs,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Can I assume that with respect to the EFF letter, the only items we<br>
>>>would be discussing from that letter at this point are their comments<br>
>>>with respect to design marks and the transparency of the TMCH database?<br>
>>><br>
>>> I am not saying the other comments are not important, but with respect<br>
>>>to this Working Group at this time, we are not yet addressing those<br>
>>>other issues.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I would strongly urge that we not engage yet in the other discussion<br>
>>>around the other comments at this point (namely, trademark rights in<br>
>>>general), as I think that could lead us down a large rabbit hole and<br>
>>>considerably slow down out work.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Jeffrey J. Neuman<br>
>>> Senior Vice President |Valideus USA | Com Laude USA<br>
>>> 1751 Pinnacle Drive, Suite 600<br>
>>> Mclean, VA 22102, United States<br>
>>> E: <a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@valideus.com">jeff.neuman@valideus.com</a><<wbr>mailto:<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@valideus.com">jeff.neuman@valideus.<wbr>com</a>> or<br>
>>><a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a><<wbr>mailto:<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com">jeff.neuman@comlaude.<wbr>com</a>><br>
>>> T: <a href="tel:%2B1.703.635.7514" value="+17036357514">+1.703.635.7514</a><br>
>>> M: <a href="tel:%2B1.202.549.5079" value="+12025495079">+1.202.549.5079</a><br>
>>> @Jintlaw<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> From:<br>
>>><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>><br>
>>>[mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Mary Wong<br>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 6:15 AM<br>
>>> To: <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">g<wbr>nso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
>>> Subject: [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR INFORMATION: Letter from trademark scholars<br>
>>>and information on Deloitte Ancillary Services<br>
>>><br>
>>> Dear all,<br>
>>><br>
>>> During the ICANN58 Working Group sessions in Copenhagen, the following<br>
>>>two matters came up for which staff is now following up with the<br>
>>>requested document (for #1) and information (for #2).<br>
>>><br>
>>> Item #1: Letter of 10 March 2017 from some trademark scholars and<br>
>>>practitioners to our Working Group co-chairs expressing concerns with<br>
>>>certain aspects of the TMCH:<br>
>>><a href="https://www.eff.org/files/2017/03/10/tm_scholars_letter_to_icann_final.p" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.eff.org/files/<wbr>2017/03/10/tm_scholars_letter_<wbr>to_icann_final.p</a><br>
>>>df.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Item #2: Question regarding the Ancillary Services that Deloitte is<br>
>>>permitted to provide under its Validation Agreement with ICANN, subject<br>
>>>to ICANN's authorization.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Currently, two Ancillary Services have been approved by ICANN:<br>
>>><br>
>>> 1. Extended Claims Services<br>
>>> The extended claims services provide the Trademark Holder or Trademark<br>
>>>Agent, as applicable, with an electronic notification when a domain<br>
>>>name registered in an Eligible TLD matches one or more of such party's<br>
>>>recorded labels with the TMCH. The extended claims services does not<br>
>>>include a domain name pre-registration notification (i.e. a<br>
>>>notification to the potential registrant of a domain name that the<br>
>>>domain name such registrant intends to register matches a label<br>
>>>recorded with the Trademark Clearinghouse).<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> 2. Audit Report<br>
>>> Deloitte may offer an audit report service for Trademark Holders and<br>
>>>Trademark Agents with active Trademark Records recorded in the<br>
>>>Trademark Clearinghouse. Such audit reports shall consist primarily of<br>
>>>a listing of matches between their recorded labels within the Trademark<br>
>>>Clearinghouse and domain names registered in an Eligible TLD.<br>
>>><br>
>>> FYI, Deloitte's contract with ICANN is for an initial period expiring<br>
>>>on the fifth anniversary of ICANN's entry into a Registry Agreement<br>
>>>under the New gTLD Program, with consecutive one-year renewals<br>
>>>thereafter. Although Deloitte currently serves as the sole TMCH<br>
>>>validator, ICANN may appoint additional validators once ten Qualified<br>
>>>Sunrise Periods have been completed under the New gTLD Program.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks and cheers<br>
>>> Mary<br>
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