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    <p>I have yet to review this material, but I have been reaching out
      to STI Members. When the TMCH Database left the STI, GNSO Council,
      and ICANN Board acceptance it was an open database. <br>
    </p>
    <p>I think we have an interesting issue to review. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Best, Kathy<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/29/2017 10:17 AM, Mary Wong wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Hello everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">If it will
            help, the need to maintain the confidentiality of the TMCH
            Database (TMDB) was discussed by the Implementation
            Assistance Group (IAG), working between October 2011 and May
            2012 and consisting of community volunteers. The IAG was
            convened to develop and recommend business requirements
            around specific issues in the provision of Sunrise and
            Claims Notification services through the TMCH.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">The attached
            document excerpts some text from the IAG’s final report that
            seems to indicate that the IAG considered the question as to
            whether and why the TMDB was to be a confidential database.
            Please note that staff is providing this text purely for
            informational purposes, and takes no position as to whether
            or not the TMDB should continue to remain confidential.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Mary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
            </b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">&lt;gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org&gt;</a>
              on behalf of Paul Keating <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Paul@law.es">&lt;Paul@law.es&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, March 28, 2017 at 23:08<br>
              <b>To: </b>"J. Scott Evans" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com">&lt;jsevans@adobe.com&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">"gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"</a>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">&lt;gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org&gt;</a>, Michael Karanicolas
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michael@law-democracy.org">&lt;michael@law-democracy.org&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR INFORMATION: Letter
              from trademark scholars and information on Deloitte
              Ancillary Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">I've not yet seen any such articulated
            reasons.  Care to provide them?<br>
            <br>
            Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p>
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            On 28 Mar 2017, at 22:40, J. Scott Evans &lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com">jsevans@adobe.com</a>&gt;
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Paul:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I think the
                proponents of the closed database have repeatedly
                articulated the benefits they see in a closed database.
                That is the status quo. In order to change the status
                quo, it is the proponents for an open system that need
                to articulate (persuasively) an overriding need or
                benefit for such a change.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">J. Scott</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">J.
                                    Scott Evans</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">408.536.5336
                                  (tel)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Director,
                                  Associate General Counsel</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">408.709.6162
                                  (cell)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">San
                                  Jose, CA, 95110, USA</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  Make It an Experience.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.adobe.com&amp;d=DwMCaQ&amp;c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&amp;r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&amp;m=xzS0_a7gh_CbP93HDCn4gCiEPf61PKMba02eWelzxC0&amp;s=QGu3yeTOdbOcCfjnVYkndyNSP8JSD3FM3-F3Icw1jYE&amp;e=">www.adobe.com[adobe.com]</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                    style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
                </b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">&lt;<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>&gt;
                  on behalf of Paul Keating &lt;<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>&gt;<br>
                  <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, March 28, 2017 at 12:21 PM<br>
                  <b>To: </b>Marie Pattullo &lt;<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>&gt;<br>
                  <b>Cc: </b>"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>"
                  &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;,
                  Michael Karanicolas &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:michael@law-democracy.org">michael@law-democracy.org</a>&gt;<br>
                  <b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR INFORMATION:
                  Letter from trademark scholars and information on
                  Deloitte Ancillary Services</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Question.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">solutions
                      for the issues and concerns that have been<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                    </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">mitigated
                      by having the database be closed</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Can someone please list the issues
                and concerns at issue here?<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">And, how has closing the database
                mitigated any of them?<br>
                <br>
                Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p>
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                On 28 Mar 2017, at 21:07, Marie Pattullo &lt;<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>&gt;
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">solutions for the issues and
                      concerns that have been<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">mitigated by having the
                      database be closed<o:p></o:p></p>
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