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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Hi Brian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">I wanted to add something too. The open Whois is notorious for bad information because it is public and not consistently verified. INTA supports an open,
verifiable and contactable whois. However, we could support gated access if the information could be guaranteed to be more reliable than what we currently have in the open whois.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Lori<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#595959">Lori S. Schulman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#595959">Senior Director, Internet Policy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#595959">International Trademark Association (INTA)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#595959">+1-202-704-0408, Skype: lsschulman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Beckham, Brian<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 29, 2017 11:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com>; gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR INFORMATION: Letter from trademark scholars and information on Deloitte Ancillary Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">I have tried my best to catch up on this thread, and would like to offer the following observations before our call:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">It seems that one of the leading reasons advanced (of those articulated at least) for requesting the public release of certain TMCH data is a desire to address
gaming of Sunrises (occasioned by what may well be challengeable trademark registrations) by registrants obtaining priority on domain names corresponding to dictionary terms -- ostensibly to be considerably monetized in various fashions. This speculative
market practice should not be mistaken for the purpose behind Sunrises: trademark owners defensively registering domain names as part of a rights protection strategy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">To the extent there is such (appropriately evidenced) gaming, aside from the rather obvious possibility of challenging the underlying trademark registration
inappropriately invoked for a Sunrise, there is already a challenge process contemplated for such disputes amongst speculators.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">See 1.2 (2 and 3) at:
<a href="http://www.trademark-clearinghouse.com/dispute">www.trademark-clearinghouse.com/dispute</a>.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Moreover, the reasons articulated in Brian Winterfeldt's (Mayer Brown team's) email (attached for ease of reference) merit consideration as a good starting point
as to the issue of publicity of TMCH data. Bona fide trademark owners should not be penalized for abuse by speculators who are abusing trademark registration systems and Sunrise processes to obtain a certain subset of (dictionary term) domain name registrations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Finally, regarding the topic of data transparency, building on the points raised by Paul Keating and J Scott Evans, this Working Group may want to consider the
extent to which this principle may be appropriate to apply to WhoIs (as to accuracy, as much as to transparency). As was stated in the Report of the First WIPO Internet Domain Name Process (<a href="http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/processes/process1/report/finalreport.html">www.wipo.int/amc/en/processes/process1/report/finalreport.html</a>):
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">“322. The lack of reliable contact details often is highlighted as a major obstacle in the resolution of [cybersquatting cases].”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">In the nearly two decades since the publication of that Report, it seems this issue may not yet have been adequately considered or addressed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#003399">Brian Beckham</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#990033">|</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#003399">Head, Internet Dispute Resolution Section</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#990033">|</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#003399">WIPO Arbitration and Mediation Center</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#003399">34 chemin des Colombettes, 1211 Geneva 20, Switzerland</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
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</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#003399">T +4122 338 8247</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
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<a href="http://www.wipo.int/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#990033">www.wipo.int</span></a></span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext">
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kathy Kleiman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 29, 2017 5:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR INFORMATION: Letter from trademark scholars and information on Deloitte Ancillary Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p>I have yet to review this material, but I have been reaching out to STI Members. When the TMCH Database left the STI, GNSO Council, and ICANN Board acceptance it was an open database.
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<p>I think we have an interesting issue to review. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Best, Kathy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 3/29/2017 10:17 AM, Mary Wong wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hello everyone,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If it will help, the need to maintain the confidentiality of the TMCH Database (TMDB) was discussed by the Implementation Assistance Group (IAG), working between October 2011
and May 2012 and consisting of community volunteers. The IAG was convened to develop and recommend business requirements around specific issues in the provision of Sunrise and Claims Notification services through the TMCH.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The attached document excerpts some text from the IAG’s final report that seems to indicate that the IAG considered the question as to whether and why the TMDB was to be a
confidential database. Please note that staff is providing this text purely for informational purposes, and takes no position as to whether or not the TMDB should continue to remain confidential.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Mary</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org></a> on behalf of Paul Keating
<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es"><Paul@law.es></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, March 28, 2017 at 23:08<br>
<b>To: </b>"J. Scott Evans" <a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"><jsevans@adobe.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">"gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"</a> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">
<gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org></a>, Michael Karanicolas <a href="mailto:michael@law-democracy.org">
<michael@law-democracy.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR INFORMATION: Letter from trademark scholars and information on Deloitte Ancillary Services</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've not yet seen any such articulated reasons. Care to provide them?<br>
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Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 28 Mar 2017, at 22:40, J. Scott Evans <<a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com">jsevans@adobe.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Paul:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I think the proponents of the closed database have repeatedly articulated the benefits they see in a closed database. That is the status quo. In order to change the status
quo, it is the proponents for an open system that need to articulate (persuasively) an overriding need or benefit for such a change.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">J. Scott</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, March 28, 2017 at 12:21 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Marie Pattullo <<a href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>>, Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:michael@law-democracy.org">michael@law-democracy.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR INFORMATION: Letter from trademark scholars and information on Deloitte Ancillary Services</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On 28 Mar 2017, at 21:07, Marie Pattullo <<a href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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