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</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of "Nahitchevansky, Georges" <ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, April 10, 2017 at 3:37 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>George Kirikos <icann@leap.com>, "gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items, Slides and Notes from the Working Group call held earlier today<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">So apparently you have an alleged anecdotal example of gaming the system by a speculator/domainer (your earlier evidence on .casino was incorrect as I noted in
a prior email to you). I note that the examples do not show a widespread practice of abuse by brand owners. Indeed, the second example of What Box ultimately relates to, in part, 495 total domain names that have registered by that speculator outfit – a number
of which are not single word domains but combinations of words. If you track some of their registrations you will find that only a handful of domain names were registered in regards to any one of the common words you site to (for example, they registered
18 “ilove” new extension domains). So again this is anecdotal and not proof that folks are registering trademarks to take all common words out of commission or to stifle free speech. Look, there is always going to be some bad apples in any system you devise
(e.g. trolls), but to then take this limited example and try lump all brand owners into the same mix to try and gut the TMCH sunrise provisions is really appalling. </span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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bad acts, and we must investigate the mom dad and children of family X and see if abuse exists. And if you don't let us investigate everything -and go into their house and look at all their belongings and activities and bank accounts etc etc - then you are
obviously hiding something and the abuse must exist in family X and be rampant.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>George Kirikos<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 10, 2017 5:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items, Slides and Notes from the Working Group call held earlier today</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">1. via Kevin Murphy of DomainIncite.com:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Note the comments below that blog post by John Berryhill, who wrote "…and the attorney who was unable to use her client’s US registration for “PHYSICS” with the inconvenient disclaimer, and who then obtained
a late change in the TMCH rules allowing figurative registrations, so that her client could use a foreign logo registration to obtain the TMCH entry for that word… is she an IPC member, Kristina?"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">implying that the common term "PHYSICS" might also be gamed, by an IPC member. And there are other comments by him and others on that page that are worth reading.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">2. via Konstantinos Zournas of OnlineDomain.com:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">regarding CLOUD, SOCIAL, BUILD, BET, VACATION, DISCOUNT, WEDDING and others (...etc.) More than 30 TMs of very common terms are mentioned, and over 300 domains were found by that one blogger. There are 46 comments
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<p class="MsoNormal">I renew the call for a public comment period, so that more of these kinds of examples of can be submitted to the working group.<o:p></o:p></p>
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