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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I don’t see it either Michael. A sunrise registration is not evidence that free speech is restricted. There still isn’t any evidence that any registrations
have unfairly restricted any would-be legitimate registrant’s free speech. <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Michael Graham (ELCA) [mailto:migraham@expedia.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 10, 2017 1:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rebecca Tushnet <Rebecca.Tushnet@law.georgetown.edu>; Kiran Malancharuvil <Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items, Slides and Notes from the Working Group call held earlier today<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Rebecca:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I’m sorry – what was that evidence?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Michael R.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rebecca Tushnet<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 10, 2017 1:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kiran Malancharuvil <<a href="mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com">Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items, Slides and Notes from the Working Group call held earlier today<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When you refuse to say what you would count as evidence of a problem, that leaves us with the evidence I, and George, and Bret, and others have offered--if we want to call them "Group 2" TMCH registrants that would make sense to me.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rebecca Tushnet<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Kiran Malancharuvil via gnso-rpm-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks Statton, that’s super helpful information.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It seems to me that with a full understanding of how trademark claims notification works (seems like
a free clearance search to me – maybe the language can be tweaked to ensure that people aren’t “scared off” although I haven’t seen evidence of that “problem”) and a full understanding that safeguards such as the SDRP exist, there isn’t much argument that
TMCH recordals are unfairly restricting free speech.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Rebecca: regarding your concerns about evidence, it’s not that there is no amount of evidence that
would convince us that there’s a problem, it’s that you have yet to show us any shred of evidence. If there was a problem, there would absolutely be a way to demonstrate it. Instead, you seem to be operating from a hypothesis and you’re searching around
for evidence of the problem. We are merely pointing out that you’re searching in places where you only have your hypothesis, no evidence. Policy making is supposed to go from problem to hypothesis to solution. You’ve jumped a step. Please demonstrate the
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 10, 2017 10:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kiran Malancharuvil <<a href="mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com" target="_blank">Kiran.Malancharuvil@markmonitor.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Bret Fausett <<a href="mailto:bret@uniregistry.com" target="_blank">bret@uniregistry.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items, Slides and Notes from the Working Group call held earlier today</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">That is correct. All registries must have an SDRP. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Aren't registries required to implement a sunrise dispute resolution procedure, the purpose of which is to allow other legitimate registrants to challenge the allocation of a domain
name during sunrise? What role does that play, if any? I confess I haven't heard much about this since 2013.<br>
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On Apr 10, 2017, at 9:35 AM, Bret Fausett <<a href="mailto:bret@uniregistry.com" target="_blank">bret@uniregistry.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:bret@uniregistry.com" target="_blank">bret@uniregistry.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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> It seems like the whole argument is on the basis of some strawman argument that brand owners<br>
> are using the TMCH to take common words out of circulation.<br>
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As a registry operator, we have some insight into who is using the sunrise period. By and large, the sunrise is used for brands to register names that would not have any use for anyone except the brand owner. In other words, the trademark owner is not taking
a registration opportunity away from someone else. Most of these registrations come from the registrars typically used by brands. Call this Group 1.<br>
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At the same time, somewhere around 3-5% of the names registered in sunrise have been registered by companies who appear to have registered a mark solely for the purpose of gaining access to the sunrise period. These names are typically registered at registrars
other than the ones used by brands. Call this Group 2.<br>
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So I don't think anyone is claiming that "brand owners" are taking common words out of circulation, but there are trademark holders in some jurisdictions who appear to have gamed the system. They are not taking the name out of circulation, but they are trying
to get first access to a name at registration price which may have a high resale value on the secondary market.<br>
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(At our registry, we tried to anticipate this potential abuse by including restrictions on the subsequent sale of sunrise names. See Section III of our policy document here,
<a href="http://uniregistry.link/registry-policies/?file=1449" target="_blank">http://uniregistry.link/registry-policies/?file=1449</a>. So, yes, if you are a trademark owner with a trademark registered solely to get into the sunrise, you can use the sunrise,
but the name has no resale value.)<br>
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If this group could come up with a way of preserving sunrise for Group 1 while excluding Group 2, that would be worthwhile, in my view.<br>
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