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    <p>All, <br>
    </p>
    <p>Important arguments, issues and concerns have been made on both
      sides of this question. There are arguments in favor of the
      confidentiality of the TMCH Database. There are certainly
      arguments that been made in favor of the openness of the TMCH
      Database, including:</p>
    <p>- that it was originally open (that's what the GNSO Council and
      ICANN Board passed)</p>
    <p>- that a key rationale for keeping the TMCH database open and
      searchable by 3rd parties was to allow a level of self-policing by
      registrants -- to allow them to better understand the Trademark
      Claims notices they might be receiving<br>
    </p>
    <p>- that for noncommercial organizations and SMEs trying to name
      new groups, services and products, the ability to search the TMCH
      Database entries <i>ahead of time </i>to know what goods and
      services those trademarks protect is part of a due diligence, good
      faith search<br>
    </p>
    <p>- that there might be gaming in the Sunrise Period, the TM Claims
      and Private Protections using the TMCH Database in ways it was not
      intended for purposes and protections it was not intended to
      provide.</p>
    <p>We have decided to table this question -- Question #15 -- until <i>after</i>
      the RPM evaluation. That time period should allow us to evaluate
      the range of issues, questions, options and alternatives being
      discussed very quickly on this list. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Quick note that the time will allow our wonderful Staff to
      summarize the questions, issues, options, alternatives and
      resolutions being shared so rapidly on this list for Question #15
      -- so that all Members and Observers of this WG have the time to
      evaluate and provide input.  <br>
    </p>
    <p>Best, Kathy<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/13/2017 10:41 AM, Marie Pattullo
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet
MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;;color:#1F497D">Brand holders have repeatedly
            explained why the data in the TMCH is confidential, Paul.
            Access to that data won’t show you the “abuse” you believe
            you may find: it will simply show you a list of the marks
            that a brand owner has paid to record in the TMCH. Why do
            you want to know that, please? That list doesn’t show you
            any form of abusive, or benign, behaviour – it’s a lis, .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet
MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet
MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;;color:#1F497D">The (small) Sunrise take-up
            provides no evidence of mass abusive registration. So that
            leaves “abuse” in the Claims Notices, but those Notices
            don’t allow the TM owner to be abusive either – they’re just
            a heads up. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet
MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet
MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;;color:#1F497D">So with respect, I simply don’t
            understand your repeated claims that you need access to this
            data to find “abuse”. In cases where there are questionable
            base marks, there are cancellation proceedings before IPOs.
            There are means to dispute a Sunrise allocation. Receiving a
            Claims Notice doesn’t stop you registering a DN. And taking
            a case in bad faith, or against bad faith, is always an
            option.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet
MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet
MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;;color:#1F497D">It is of course your right to
            believe that you should have access to the commercial
            strategy of brand holders; you’ll forgive me for believing
            the contrary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet
MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet
MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;;color:#1F497D">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet
MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet
MS&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;;color:#1F497D">Marie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Trebuchet
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            Roman&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times
                  New Roman&quot;;mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times
                New Roman&quot;;mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>Paul Keating<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> jeudi 13 avril 2017 16:22<br>
                <b>To:</b> Brian Scarpelli<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items, Slides
                and Notes from the Working Group call held earlier today<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;">George and Brian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;">You seem to have an agenda.   And thou
              protest too much. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;">Our collective task is to investigate and
              make recommendations. It isn't possible to do either if
              denied access to I formation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;">Regarding TMCH I only ask for a list of the
              mark's under registration. This is to see IF there has
              been abuse and IF SO then whether it reaches to the level
              of requiring corrective action. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;">I am not certain if anything beyond the
              mark's is necessary.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;">I repeatedly hear that the TMCH is
              confidential. I have not seen anything to support such a
              claim.  The terms provided by George showed no basis for a
              privacy expectation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;">If the list of the mark's in the TMCH
              database shows no abuse I will join the obvious majority
              to recommend no corrective action. For you surely cannot
              believe that this group would support changes in the
              absence of abuse. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;">Conversely if abuse is shown and the abuse is
              serious enough to warrant corrective action I trust you
              will join with me I crafting an appropriate solution. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;">What is required is a list of marks and the
              basis for submission. I am not at all sure how the
              registrant ID would be relevant. Hence I have no
              understanding how it could be confidential.  Thus I have
              no idea what you are trying so hard to hide. But will tell
              you that the harder you try the more I will be interested
              in investigating.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;">Whois is a completely separate issue with
              vastly different privacy concerns.  I am happy to address
              the WHOIS and the TMCH issues within their respective
              WGs. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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        <div id="AppleMailSignature">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;"><br>
              Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
                Roman&quot;">Paul Keating, Esq.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
              style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;"><br>
              On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Brian Scarpelli &lt;<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:BScarpelli@actonline.org">BScarpelli@actonline.org</a>&gt;
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                name="_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">+1,
                  I also agree.</span><o:p></o:p></a></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white"><span
                  style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
                    style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;League
                    Gothic&quot;;color:black">Brian Scarpelli</span></span><span
                  style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span
                    style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;League
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                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Austin<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 12, 2017 12:46 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Nahitchevansky, Georges &lt;<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com">ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com</a>&gt;;
                    Paul Keating &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>&gt;<br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items,
                    Slides and Notes from the Working Group call held
                    earlier today</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-outline-level:1">+1
                Georges. Opacity, well put. Transparency as subterfuge,
                what a concept.<br>
                <br>
                -------- Original Message --------<br>
                From: "Nahitchevansky, Georges" &lt;<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com">ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com</a>&gt;<br>
                Date: Wed, Apr 12, 2017, 8:08 AM<br>
                To: Paul Keating &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>&gt;<br>
                CC: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items, Slides and
                Notes from the Working Group call held earlier today<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Actually
                  it touches on the point here. If you are going to make
                  various arguments of alleged abuse in support of
                  claimed transparency, then it would it is relevant to
                  know whether you are supporting a lack of transparency
                  in the whois side of things where abuse has been
                  rampant. While the TMCH and Whois are different
                  animals a number of the arguments being made here to
                  support transparency have actually been mirrored in
                  the other context and rejected by those seeking
                  opacity.  And one major difference between ‎the two
                  situations is that there is widespread evidence of
                  abuse of the whois system whereas here in the TMCH
                  context you do not have evidence of a widespread abuse
                  of the TMCH by brand owners. Nevertheless, you and
                  others persist on wanting to conduct a fishing
                  expedition under the guise of so called "transparency"
                  to try and find some alleged widespread harm that
                  simply does not exist. To many folks on the other side
                  of the aisle, it appears that this is not about
                  transparency but more about some effort to gut
                  existing protections and to obtain the release of
                  confidential information of brand owners as to what
                  they did or did not register.   Perhaps this may not
                  be the intent, but we all know that once that
                  information is out the gaming will really begin.
                  ‎Again, perhaps there are tweeks that could be made to
                  improve the current system, but there is no real basis
                  for undertaking the broad review that is being sought
                  and certainly not for undoing the entire existing
                  system.<br>
                  <br>
                  ‎<br>
                    Original Message  <br>
                  From: Paul Keating<br>
                  Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 6:33 PM<br>
                  To: Nahitchevansky, Georges<br>
                  Cc: J. Scott Evans; </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span
                    style="font-size:10.0pt">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><span
                  style="font-size:10.0pt"><br>
                  Subject: Re: Action Items,      Slides and Notes from
                  the Working Group call held earlier today<br>
                  <br>
                  George,<br>
                  <br>
                  You can always quote me. I say what I have said. I
                  only ask that you quote me accurately. The discussion
                  here is the TMCH database. Please let's stay on topic.
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Happy to discuss Whois separately. <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Sent from my iPad<br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; On 12 Apr 2017, at 00:18, Nahitchevansky, Georges
                  &lt;</span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com"><span
                    style="font-size:10.0pt">ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com</span></a><span
                  style="font-size:10.0pt">&gt; wrote:<br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  &gt; Can I quote you in this on having an open and
                  robust whois so we can have across the board actual
                  and real information on the parties registering domain
                  names and know who the bad actors are<br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  &gt; Georges Nahitchevansky<br>
                  &gt; Kilpatrick Townsend &amp; Stockton LLP<br>
                  &gt; The Grace Building | 1114 Avenue of the Americas
                  | New York, NY 10036-7703<br>
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                  &gt; <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
                  &gt; From: </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    style="font-size:10.0pt">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span
                  style="font-size:10.0pt">] On Behalf Of Paul Keating<br>
                  &gt; Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 5:58 PM<br>
                  &gt; To: J. Scott Evans<br>
                  &gt; Cc: </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span
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                  &gt; Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items, Slides
                  and Notes from the Working Group call held earlier
                  today<br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  &gt; It says at most which domains it wants
                  pre-emptiness and notice rights over.<br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  &gt; Hardly a confidential business secret. The
                  information is a public record. And, After all the
                  Information is instantly public the minute one
                  pre-emptive sunrise registration is undertaken. The
                  notice right is completely a non secret.<br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  &gt; And hardly sufficient to use to hide bad actors.<br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  &gt; Sent from my iPad<br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  &gt;&gt; On 11 Apr 2017, at 23:18, J. Scott Evans via
                  gnso-rpm-wg &lt;</span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span
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                  style="font-size:10.0pt">&gt; wrote:<br>
                  &gt;&gt; <br>
                  &gt;&gt; There is a big difference from a database
                  that contains all a company’s registered marks and one
                  that contains a culling for only those it deems most
                  valuable for protection in the DNS. The former is
                  clearly open for the public, the later is not.<br>
                  &gt;&gt; <br>
                  &gt;&gt; J. Scott<br>
                  &gt;&gt; <br>
                  &gt;&gt; <br>
                  &gt;&gt; J. Scott Evans<br>
                  &gt;&gt; 408.536.5336 (tel)<br>
                  &gt;&gt; 345 Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544<br>
                  &gt;&gt; Director, Associate General Counsel<br>
                  &gt;&gt; 408.709.6162 (cell)<br>
                  &gt;&gt; San Jose, CA, 95110, USA<br>
                  &gt;&gt; Adobe. Make It an Experience.<br>
                  &gt;&gt; </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  &gt;&gt; <br>
                  &gt;&gt; <br>
                  &gt;&gt; <br>
                  &gt;&gt; <br>
                  &gt;&gt; On 4/11/17, 2:03 PM, "</span><a
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                    on behalf of Jeremy Malcolm</span></a><span
                  style="font-size:10.0pt">" &lt;</span><a
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                    on behalf of jmalcolm@eff.org</span></a><span
                  style="font-size:10.0pt">&gt; wrote:<br>
                  &gt;&gt; <br>
                  &gt;&gt; On 11/4/17 9:43 am, J. Scott Evans via
                  gnso-rpm-wg wrote:<br>
                  &gt;&gt;&gt; George:<br>
                  &gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
                  &gt;&gt;&gt; We have all followed this string. We
                  understand that you and a few others believe there
                  need to be wholesale changes to the Sunrise mechanism
                  and the TMCH database (or at least the confidentiality
                  of that data).<br>
                  &gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
                  &gt;&gt;&gt; 1. Do you have a suggestion for how to
                  improve the Sunrise mechanism?<br>
                  &gt;&gt;&gt; 2. I see very little support for
                  violating the confidentiality provisions of the TMCH
                  contract.<br>
                  &gt;&gt; <br>
                  &gt;&gt; FWIW I am also all for bringing the
                  transparency of the TMCH database<br>
                  &gt;&gt; into line with those of national trademark
                  registries so that its<br>
                  &gt;&gt; secrecy does not facilitate the kinds of
                  abuses that George has<br>
                  &gt;&gt; uncovered. I have been an observer until now
                  but I've just upgraded to<br>
                  &gt;&gt; member and plan to join the call tomorrow.<br>
                  &gt;&gt; <br>
                  &gt;&gt; --<br>
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