<div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;" lang="EN-GB">Agree new gTLDs have the potential to be a nightmare for rights holders and that’s why I believe there
should be a Sunrise and Claims Notices (And as in without an either/or loophole) but
we need to differentiate between people waving a piece of paper and people actually
having real goods and services capable of being infringed.<br>
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This should be a very simple matter for most rights holders and something very
easy to implement, it would actually benefit rights holders because it would help remove
any speculators looking to game the RPMs.<br><br></span></div><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;" lang="EN-GB">Paul<br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 12:51 AM, J. Scott Evans <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com" target="_blank">jsevans@adobe.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



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<div>We keep hearing all these outlandish claims of the poor folks cheated out of an opportunity to express themselves or start a new business, but no real proof. I hear all the same arguments I have heard since 2009 and from the same groups with no proof.
 I also see no new voices claiming any of this alleged harm. What I see is a group of stakeholders with an anti-IP agenda making the same old arguments hoping to trim back consensus solutions where compromises based on these arguments have already been made.</div>
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On Apr 19, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Paul Tattersfield &lt;<a href="mailto:gpmgroup@gmail.com" target="_blank">gpmgroup@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I’m not sure I agree. The Claims Notices are likely to have a far bigger impact on people not registering domains especially those who are not professional registrants and have not seen a claims notice before.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">No Claims Notices should be issued without a substantive review of the underlying goods and services.
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The idea that anyone can buy a piece of paper without any real goods or services to protect and can then use that piece of paper to discourage others from building real world businesses simply because some jurisdictions give out those pieces of paper out like
 confetti under the pretext of ideas they ‘might want to do in the future’ should be deeply frowned upon by anyone participating in ICANN.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <span dir="ltr">
&lt;<a href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org" target="_blank">jmalcolm@eff.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><b style="font-weight:normal" id="m_8882778003925187900m_2978545514130363214docs-internal-guid-97fd04a1-878f-ef91-04ce-ffd63b05f0f6">
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Open
 questions 7 and 8 illustrate how the protections provided to trademark holders through the TMCH have been applied too broadly by the provider, opening the door for gaming and abuse by trademark holders, and chilling of speech by affected third parties. This
 proposal also bears on question 16 (Does the scope of the TMCH and the protections mechanisms which flow from it reflect the appropriate balance between the rights of trademark holders and the rights of non-trademark registrants?).</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">It
 has been seen that the TMCH has facilitated trademark owners claiming exclusive rights in domain names that they don’t exist in domestic trademark law, such as words incorporated into design marks. Open question 10, rather than addressing the potential for
 abuse, actually suggests a measure that would allow even more non-trademarked terms to be locked up by priority claimants.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">As
 a measure to address these problems, we propose eliminating the TMCH’s Sunrise Registration service altogether. Although we also have concerns about its Trademark Claims service and will likely propose its elimination separately at a later date, the Sunrise
 Registration service is the most urgent to eliminate, because it creates an absolute bar to third parties registering domains that a Sunrise registrant has already claimed, whereas the Trademark Claims service results in a warning to third parties but does
 not absolutely preclude them from registering.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">We
 believe that the elimination of Sunrise Registrations would be the simplest way to address the problems of gaming and abuse that have been observed by working group members, not only in respect of design marks and geographical words, but also the misuse of
 dubious trademarks over common dictionary words such as “the”, “hotel”, “luxury”, “smart”, “one”, “love”, and “flower” to lock up domains unrelated to the original trademark.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">If
 the Sunrise Registration system were widely used by trademark holders, then it might be claimed that its elimination was disproportionate—but as we have seen, this is not the case. There have been only about 130 Sunrise Registrations per new domain.  Such
 a small number of claims could be more simply and efficiently handled simply by allowing those claimants to resort to curative mechanisms such as the UDRP in the event that a third-party registrant beats them to registering a domain over which they might have
 made a claim.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The
 benefits of the elimination of Sunrise Registrations would be:</span></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt">
<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">An
 overall cost saving.</span></p>
</li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Streamlining
 of the public availability of domains in new registries.</span></p>
</li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Elimination
 of the potential for gaming and abuse by putative trademark holders who claim rights over domain names that do not correspond to their domestic trademark rights.</span></p>
</li></ul>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The
 costs would be:</span></p>
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<li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:#000000;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Some trademark holders would be required to resort
 to curative proceedings if domain names over which they have a legitimate claim are registered by third parties.</span>
</li></ul>
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