<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div>My apologies for the typo. It was meant to say “fallacy” but apparently I did not catch the autocorrection on my iPad.</div><div><br></div><div>I will use either example. If the mark is “Red” then the notices would go to all that had that phrase, including </div><div><br></div><div>Redhead.com</div><div>Redflag.com</div><div>ColorRed.com</div><div><br></div><div>Etc.</div><div><br></div><div>The continuing issuance of notices is troubling. It is based upon a presumption that any domain containing the string is confusingly similar to the mark (if that is not the presumption then there is no basis to support issuing the notice). Further, the notice may well discourage a legitimate domain registrant, the majority are not as sophisticated or knowledgeable as you are and who have neither the stomach nor the funds to incur the expense of hiring counsel and being exposed to the risks litigation let alone defending a UDRP.</div><div><br></div><div>Put simply, this is over-the-top protectionism.</div><div><br></div><div>Respectfully,</div><div><br></div><div>Paul Keating</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 8:41 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> "Michael Graham (ELCA)" <<a href="mailto:migraham@expedia.com">migraham@expedia.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Recommendation for Question#10 (Appropriate Strings for Notification)<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Michael,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks for your proposal. This seems reasonable and appropriate. I would note that the criticism just received is misplaced.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">First, nowhere does this proposal state or imply "</font><span style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">the flaky [sic] that the inclusion of a trademarked string within a larger domain registration string, is per se confusion.</font></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">" </span><span style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="verdana,sans-serif">A claims notice is not a notice or claim of per se anything. (Actually, there's fairly little that is per se anything in any legal system for any type of claim, that I know of -- but I digress.) It's merely a notification of a match. The applicant can then make a more informed decision, as noted by Michael, to the benefit of both the applicant and the TMCH registrant.</font></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Second, the example given, "</span><span style="font-size:12.8px">The mark: "BOB's Red Barn" triggering notices for any combination of the above," appears to be the <u>opposite</u> of the way the proposal would work. Rather than triggering a notice for any combination of Bob's and/or Red and/or Barn, the notice would <u>only</u> be triggered when the <u>entire</u> string "Bob's Red Barn" appears in an attempted application <u>plus</u> additional characters (e.g., "Bob's Red Barn Tomatoes"). (Of course, I could be parsing the example incorrectly, since the phrasing is ambiguous.)</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Since the notice will show the mark, it should be clear to the potential applicant whether there is a real issue. If the registration is for a furniture store, then the applicant should feel a heightened degree of comfort in continuing to registration. On the other hand, if it's for fresh produce, the degree of comfort would be lower. [Disclaimer: this not legal advice and no attorney/client relationship is formed by reading this email.]</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Greg </span></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"></p><div><p style="text-indent:0in"><span style="font-size:12.8px"><a name="UNIQUE_ID_SafeHtmlFilter_UNIQUE_ID_SafeHtmlFilter__GoBack"></a></span><b style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 46, 98);">Greg
Shatan<br></span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">C: 917-816-6428<br>
S: gsshatan<br>Phone-to-Skype: </span><font color="#000000" face="Arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.3333px">646-845-9428<br></span></font><a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;text-indent:0in" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155cc">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</span></a></p><p style="font-size:12.8px;text-indent:0in"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Paul Keating <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank">paul@law.es</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div style="text-indent:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style="line-height:16.799999237060547px"><span style="line-height:normal"> Michael,</span></span></span></div><div style="text-indent:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style="line-height:16.799999237060547px"><span style="line-height:normal"><br></span></span></span></div><div style="text-indent:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style="line-height:16.799999237060547px"><span style="line-height:normal">I cannot agree to your proposed expansion.</span></span></span></div><span class=""><div style="text-indent:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style="line-height:16.799999237060547px"><span style="line-height:normal"><br></span></span></span></div><div style="text-indent:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style="line-height:16.799999237060547px"><span style="line-height:normal">"</span></span><span style="line-height:16.799999237060547px">The TMCH Rules should be revised to require Trademark Claims Notices be issued not only for Domain Names that consist of the Exact string of TMCH Trademarks, but also of any Domain Name that includes anywhere in the string the Exact string of TMCH Trademarks."</span></span></div><div style="text-indent:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div style="text-indent:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div></span><div style="text-indent:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Not only does this continue the flaky that the inclusion of a trademarked string within a larger domain registration string, is per se confusion.</span></div><div style="text-indent:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div style="text-indent:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> This would also led to numerous nonsensical notices such as:</span></div><div style="text-indent:0px"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div style="text-indent:0px"><span>The mark: "BOB's Red Barn" triggering notices for any combination of the above.</span></div><br>Sent from my iPad</div><span class=""><div><br>On 20 Apr 2017, at 19:29, Michael Graham (ELCA) <<a href="mailto:migraham@expedia.com" target="_blank">migraham@expedia.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The TMCH Rules should be revised to require Trademark Claims Notices be issued not only for Domain Names that consist of the Exact string of TMCH
Trademarks, but also of any Domain Name that includes anywhere in the string the Exact string of TMCH Trademarks</span></div></blockquote></span></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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