<div>+1</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 at 22:26 Cyntia King <<a href="mailto:cking@modernip.com">cking@modernip.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-6876647995822158369WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104">Thought:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104">This could pose burden on small businesses & could become an overwhelming chore for some brand owners.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#0000cc">Perhaps there’s a way the TMCH could allow options to brand owners for the returns they want (full string unlimited characters, registrant country, etc.)?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc"><li class="m_-6876647995822158369MsoListParagraph" style="color:#7a3104;margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif">Google has TMs for “Blogger”<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-6876647995822158369MsoListParagraph" style="color:#7a3104;margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif">There are hundreds of millions of bloggers worldwide<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104">Google may not want to monitor every domain that includes “blogger”, rather, they may want to monitor a smaller set of exact matches.<u></u><u></u></span></p><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="circle"><li class="m_-6876647995822158369MsoListParagraph" style="color:#7a3104;margin-left:0in"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif">It may be beneficial for them to be able to limit the string to 12 characters, rather than receiving a warning for every iteration of “blogger” like ShakespearePoemsBlogger.com.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104">Likewise a local, single-location restaurant w/ a trademark for “Burger Man” may only be concerned w/ results inside his/her home country.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104">Simple string queries could work.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104">I understand this would require some programmingat TMCH, but it could significantly reduce the numbers of human work-hours for notices, clarifications & responses for both brand owners & domain registrants. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104">Cyntia King<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104">E: cking@modernip<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104">O: +1 81-ModernIP<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104">C: +1 818.209.6088<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104"><img width="96" height="33" style="width:1.0in;height:.3437in" id="m_-6876647995822158369Picture_x0020_5" src="cid:image001.png@01D2B9E2.02DB7550" alt="MIP Composite (Email)"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Gill Sans MT",sans-serif;color:#7a3104"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank">paul@law.es</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Recommendation for Question#10 (Appropriate Strings for Notification)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-6876647995822158369WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Michael,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Thanks for your proposal. This seems reasonable and appropriate. I would note that the criticism just received is misplaced.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">First, nowhere does this proposal state or imply "</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">the flaky [sic] that the inclusion of a trademarked string within a larger domain registration string, is per se confusion.</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">" </span><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">A claims notice is not a notice or claim of per se anything. (Actually, there's fairly little that is per se anything in any legal system for any type of claim, that I know of -- but I digress.) It's merely a notification of a match. The applicant can then make a more informed decision, as noted by Michael, to the benefit of both the applicant and the TMCH registrant.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Second, the example given, "The mark: "BOB's Red Barn" triggering notices for any combination of the above," appears to be the <u>opposite</u> of the way the proposal would work. Rather than triggering a notice for any combination of Bob's and/or Red and/or Barn, the notice would <u>only</u> be triggered when the <u>entire</u> string "Bob's Red Barn" appears in an attempted application <u>plus</u> additional characters (e.g., "Bob's Red Barn Tomatoes"). (Of course, I could be parsing the example incorrectly, since the phrasing is ambiguous.)</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Since the notice will show the mark, it should be clear to the potential applicant whether there is a real issue. If the registration is for a furniture store, then the applicant should feel a heightened degree of comfort in continuing to registration. On the other hand, if it's for fresh produce, the degree of comfort would be lower. [Disclaimer: this not legal advice and no attorney/client relationship is formed by reading this email.]</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Greg </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p><a name="m_-6876647995822158369_UNIQUE_ID_SafeHtmlFilter_UNIQUE_ID_SafeH"></a><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002e62">Greg Shatan<br></span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">C: 917-816-6428<br>S: gsshatan<br>Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428<br></span><a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1155cc">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</span></a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank">paul@law.es</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> Michael,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I cannot agree to your proposed expansion.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">"The TMCH Rules should be revised to require Trademark Claims Notices be issued not only for Domain Names that consist of the Exact string of TMCH Trademarks, but also of any Domain Name that includes anywhere in the string the Exact string of TMCH Trademarks."<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Not only does this continue the flaky that the inclusion of a trademarked string within a larger domain registration string, is per se confusion.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> This would also led to numerous nonsensical notices such as:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The mark: "BOB's Red Barn" triggering notices for any combination of the above.<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>Sent from my iPad<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 20 Apr 2017, at 19:29, Michael Graham (ELCA) <<a href="mailto:migraham@expedia.com" target="_blank">migraham@expedia.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>The TMCH Rules should be revised to require Trademark Claims Notices be issued not only for Domain Names that consist of the Exact string of TMCH Trademarks, but also of any Domain Name that includes anywhere in the string the Exact string of TMCH Trademarks<u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>_______________________________________________<br>gnso-rpm-wg mailing list<br><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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