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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">+1 Brian.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Winterfeldt, Brian J.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 25, 2017 3:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rebecca Tushnet <Rebecca.Tushnet@law.georgetown.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Recommendation for Question#10 (Appropriate Strings for Notification)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Rebecca and all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We do believe there is merit in expanding the matching rules for the TMCH, at least with respect to Trademark Claims services. We would support expanded matching for Trademark Claims such that any requested domain name registration containing
the TMCH-recorded mark, and not just exact matches, would receive a Claims Notice, and where such a registration were to be completed, the mark owner would receive a corresponding Notice of Registered Name (NORN). To illustrate, if the recorded mark is EXXON,
we would support Trademark Claims/NORNs for such potential domain name registrations as:<o:p></o:p></p>
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· EXXON.TLD (exact match)<o:p></o:p></p>
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· WWWEXXON1.TLD (mark contained)<o:p></o:p></p>
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· EXXONGAS.TLD (mark + keyword / mark contained)<o:p></o:p></p>
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· EXXON-GAS.TLD (mark+keyword / mark contained)<o:p></o:p></p>
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· EXXONERATE.TLD (mark contained, possible typo)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Again, the Claims notice would merely apprise the prospective registrant of claimed rights in the trademark EXXON, and it would be up to the registrant whether to proceed or abandon the registration. Similarly, if the registrant were to
proceed, and the trademark owner received the corresponding NORN, it would be aware of the registration and could determine if any enforcement action were necessary. This does not appear to be any expansion of existing trademark rights, as it merely triggers
notices where the trademark is implicated. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Again, our thoughts as outlined above are limited to Trademark Claims. However, we would be interested in considering others’ thoughts on expanded matching rules for purposes of Sunrise, and take no specific position at this time either
to reject this possibility or to support it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Brian<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Brian J. Winterfeldt</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Co-Head of Global Brand Management and Internet Practice<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Apr 25, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Rebecca Tushnet <<a href="mailto:Rebecca.Tushnet@law.georgetown.edu">Rebecca.Tushnet@law.georgetown.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That's because it came from words that weren't mine.<br>
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If no one at all is interested in defending the "expanding the match"<br>
proposal that this thread is supposed to cover, does that mean that we<br>
have a consensus that it's not worth pursuing? I'm not sure what the<br>
procedure for determining that would be.<br>
Rebecca Tushnet<br>
Georgetown Law<br>
703 593 6759<br>
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On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't in fact think that the TMCH contains names of those individuals who've been wrongly deterred from registering domain names they had a right to register.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As has been discussed for a while, I think it contains other relevant evidence, like more words like "cloud" and "hotel" that prima facie don't seem likely to justify preemptive rights across new gTLDs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am more concerned about the latter but must say I really don't understand what is meant by the former.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 25 Apr 2017, at 16:22, Scott Austin <<a href="mailto:SAustin@vlplawgroup.com">SAustin@vlplawgroup.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> don't seem likely to justify preemptive rights across new gTLDs.<o:p></o:p></p>
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