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On Apr 25, 2017, at 4:32 PM, J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg &lt;<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<span>Here again, you are overstating. Trademark owners are not seeking to expand their rights. On the contrary, they are looking for scalable solutions that recognize the rights afforded to them by jurisdicdtions around the world.</span><br>
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<span>J. Scott</span><br>
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<span>J. Scott Evans</span><br>
<span>408.536.5336 (tel)</span><br>
<span>345 Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544</span><br>
<span>Director, Associate General Counsel</span><br>
<span>408.709.6162 (cell)</span><br>
<span>San Jose, CA, 95110, USA</span><br>
<span>Adobe. Make It an Experience.</span><br>
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<span>On 4/25/17, 12:37 PM, &quot;Paul Keating&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>&gt; wrote:</span><br>
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<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I have NO desire to expand any rights accorded to trademark holders. &nbsp;I believe they have been expanded beyond that which is reasonable or supportable given legal and policy constraints. &nbsp;</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>That's because it came from words that weren't mine.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>If no one at all is interested in defending the &quot;expanding the match&quot;</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Paul Keating &lt;<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>&gt; wrote:</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm sorry but these 2 statements seem to be in conflict with each other.....</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>I don't in fact think that the TMCH contains names of those individuals who've been wrongly deterred from registering domain names they had a right to register.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>As has been discussed for a while, I think it contains other relevant evidence, like more words like &quot;cloud&quot; and &quot;hotel&quot; that prima facie don't seem likely to justify preemptive rights across new gTLDs.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>I am more concerned about the latter but must say I really don't understand what is meant by the former.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>On 25 Apr 2017, at 16:22, Scott Austin &lt;<a href="mailto:SAustin@vlplawgroup.com">SAustin@vlplawgroup.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;from registering domain names they had a right to register. &nbsp;As has</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;been discussed for a while, I think it contains other relevant</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;evidence, like more words like &quot;cloud&quot; and &quot;hotel&quot; that prima facie</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;don't seem likely to justify preemptive rights across new gTLDs.</span><br>
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