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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hi Paul,</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Let me echo your
respect and appreciation for "GNSO Policy, as developed by the
IRT and STI" and adopted by the Board as reflected in the AGB".
I agree! J. Scott made a similar point re: the existence of the
Sunrise Period and TM Claims itself -- all a product of the
original process. These were tough compromises negotiated
carefully and worked on in good faith by the participants and
their stakeholder groups. <br>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">To that list of
original agreements, we must add the bar against acceptance of
trademarks into the TMCH database with styling, design or logo.
The STI could not have been more clear in what it adopted for
addition to the TMCH database -- text marks outside of logos or
designs. The GNSO Council adopted the language, then the ICANN
Board adopted it and it was placed in the Applicant Guidebook.
Exactly as you have outlined above. In this case, the original
text of the adopted rules is:</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">"The TC [Trademark
Clearinghouse] Database should be required to include nationally
or multinationally registered "text mark" trademarks, from all
jurisdictions (including countries where there is no substantive
review). (The trademarks to be included in the TC are text marks
because "design marks" provide protection for letters and words
only within the context of their design or logo and the STI was
under a mandate not to expand existing trademark rights.)"</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">As the TMCH was created,
and the Sunrise Period and TM Claims, so too were these limits
created to balance a system which to many (echoing Paul Keating's
earlier thought) provided unprecedented rights of preemption to
trademark owners. It all flows from the same page... <br>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Best, Kathy<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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depends on your definition of the status quo, I suppose. If
the status quo is the GNSO Policy, as developed by the IRT
and STI and adopted by the Board as reflected in the AGB,
meaning no mention of GIs in the TMCH, then the status quo
seems just fine. However, if the status quo is that GIs
have creeped into TMCH via the TMCH provider, than the
status quo needs to be challenged.
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Keating<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 30, 2017 12:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jonathan Agmon
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal"><jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Agenda and documents
for Working Group call this week<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Frankly I would like to know.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And I don't want to maintain the status
quo absent evidence that it is worth the intrusion. <br>
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style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It's
a good question that we can research, but given that
some members of the group are less open to explore
if registered GIs should be in the TMCH or not, I
question if the entire exercise is not a waste of
time. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I just suggested since there seems to be some
disagreement (between US and other practitioners)
perhaps leaving the status quo is best at this
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[gnso-rpm-wg] Agenda and documents for
Working Group call this week<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is a great thread and I find
Greg's explanations are very helpful.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Question: are GI's registered in a
"GI registry" but NOT in a trademark registry entitled
to treaty protections afforded to registered
trademarks?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Or are they treated "somewhat"
differently as, for example, NGOs are treated under
6ter?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="_MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Greg,</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">When
I used the word “mark”, I didn’t mean
“trademark”. I was making a distinction between
a “mark” and a “trade mark” because I was trying
to state that various forms of indicators can
become trademarks. Thus, the term “mark” is not
reserved to trademarks, unless it is applied in
the legal sense. If it is applied in the legal
sense it is synonymous with the word “sign”.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">WIPO’s
use of the word “sign” with respect to GIs
should not be an indication that WIPO
specifically wished to exclude “marks” from this
definition because some other (non-US) legal
systems define a trademark as a “sign” capable
of distinguishing goods (or services) of one
undertaking from those of other undertakings.
See UK’s Trade Marks Act, 1994, s. 1. Under the
UK TM Act GIS are collective trademarks. It
states that: “a collective mark may be
registered which consists of signs or
indications which may serve, in trade, to
designate the geographical origin of the goods
or services.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
think that the rest of the discussion is not
relevant to my point, because I am advocating
the we should allow GI that have been registered
into the TMCH because they are signs capable of
disguising goods of one undertaking from those
of other undertakings.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Assuming
we agree to have GIs that are registered in a
national trademark registry into the TMCH, why
do you object to having the same signs that are
registered in a national GI registry into the
TMCH?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks,
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<b>To:</b> Jonathan Agmon <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Jonathan,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Responses
in-line:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at
10:59 PM, Jonathan Agmon <<a
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href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal"
target="_blank">jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Greg,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You
state:
</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Claiming
that GIs <u>are</u> trademarks (or
even "marks") is not something I can
support.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">But,
GIs are simply word marks.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"></span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">No, GIs are not "word
marks." That is the point you are
trying to prove. Stating it to prove
the point is circular. They may be
words (or designs, or combinations of
words and designs). If by word
"mark," you mean a trademark, then
that is not true. If you don't mean a
trademark, then what definition of
"mark" are you using? I note that
WIPO, in defining GIs, uses "sign" and
not "mark". GIs may be words, and
they may signify something, but they
are not trademarks, unless and until
they are registered as trademarks.
Using the word "mark" to refer to both
"trademarks" and "not trademarks"
essentially strips it of meaning.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060">PARMA
is a word mark, is it not?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"></span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">It is not. PARMA is
a word. It is not
<i>per se</i> a word mark. Whether it's
a "word mark" depends on whether it is
registered as a trademark (putting aside
"common law" marks, since they are
generally not accepted into the TMCH
unless they are "court-validated"). If
it is used in a way that qualifies as a
trademark under the trademark laws of a
particular jurisdiction as a trademark
of some sort, and it is registered as a
trademark, then it is a trademark (or a
"word mark" if you wish). If it is a GI
and it is registered as such, or if it
is not registered at all, it is not a
trademark.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal">And PARMA can (and
was) registered as trademarks in the
US.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"></span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Yes, but that hardly
proves your point. Quite the opposite.
There are currently seven registrations
for PARMA (without any other words) on
the US trademark register. With one
exception, these trademarks are clearly
not functioning in any way akin to a GI.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Five
are "standard form" registrations (text
without any type of formatting) for
PARMA, owned by five different
registrants for the following goods and
services:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="gmail-msolistparagraph"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">1.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Hard
wood flooring; Engineered wood flooring;
Laminate flooring; Luxury vinyl tile.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-msolistparagraph"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">2.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Restaurant
and bar services, namely, fine dining
restaurant services.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-msolistparagraph"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">3.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Faucets,
shower heads and faucet sets. Towel
rings, clothes-drying racks; bath
accessories, namely, cup holders,
toothbrush holders and soap dishes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="gmail-msolistparagraph"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">4.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Computer
software for use in displaying and
printing digital typeface designs and
typographic ornaments.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="gmail-msolistparagraph"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">5.
Fluid pumps-namely, irrigation and
drainage pumps, sewerage and sump pumps,
tractor-drawn farm implements-namely,
corrugators, crop toppers, and beet
cleaners.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-msolistparagraph"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">One
is a registration for "PARMA!" (with an
exclamation point) for "Flavourings and
seasonings; Food seasonings;
Seasonings."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-msolistparagraph"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">One
is a registration for PARMA Plus Design
(consisting of the word "PARMA" inside a
stylized crown) for "Ham Products."
This registration is owned by CONSORZIO
DEL PROSCIUTTO DI PARMA ASSOCIATION
ITALY Largo Calamandrei 1/A Parma (PR)
ITALY, as a Certification Mark, with the
statement: "The certification mark, as
used by persons authorized by the
certifier, certifies the regional origin
of the products and certifies that those
products conform to the production
process, size, shape, weight, curing,
slicing and packaging requirements
promulgated by the certifier." I assume
this is the registration you are
referring to (particularly since there
is no "standard form" registration for
PARMA owned by the CONSORZIO DEL
PROSCIUTTO DI PARMA).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-msolistparagraph"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The CONSORZIO
DEL PROSCIUTTO DI PARMA also owns two
other Certification Mark registrations
containing the word PARMA: One for PARMA
HAM ("Ham" disclaimed) and one for
PROSCIUTTO DI PARMA ("Prosciutto"
disclaimed). Both of these are standard
form registrations. (</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-msolistparagraph"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Notably,
there is a registration for PARMA BRAND
Plus Design (consisting of the words
PARMA BRAND in a circle with a flying
eagle clutching a sausage in its talons)
("Brand" disclaimed) for MEAT
PRODUCTS-NAMELY, SAUSAGE, SALAMI,
CAPICOLLO, LUNCH MEATS, owned by Parma
Sausage Products, Inc. of Pittsburgh,
PA. This registration predates all of
the registrations owned by the
Consorzio. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-msolistparagraph"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Interestingly,
all three of the Consorzio's
applications were refused registration
by the USPTO based on the PARMA BRAND
Plus Design registration (which at that
time included "Prosciutto" among its
goods and services). <b>(For all those
talking about "scope of protection" of
text + design marks, this is a great
example to consider -- the two
text-only marks and the PARMA (and
Crown) mark were refused registration
by PARMA Brand plus a sausage-toting
eagle. Clearly the scope of the PARMA
Brand registration extended beyond the
context of its design.)
</b> The Consorzio del Prosciutto di
Parma and Parma Sausage Products entered
into a settlement agreement, whereby
Parma Sausage agreed to remove
"prosciutto" from its goods and
services, which allowed the Consorzio
applications to proceed to registration
on the trademark register. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-msolistparagraph"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Then,
and only then, did the PARMA (and
Crown), PARMA HAM and PROSCIUTTO DI
PARMA "signs" become trademarks
(assuming they were not registered as
trademarks elsewhere first). These
registrations could be relied on to
register PARMA, PARMA HAM and PROSCIUTTO
DI PARMA in the TMCH (noting there is
still some disagreement in the WG
whether the crown in the PARMA
registration somehow disqualifies it
from serving as the basis for entry of
PARMA into the TMCH).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-msolistparagraph"
style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Of
course, each of the first six
registrations above could also form the
basis for entering PARMA into the TMCH
(the sixth by excluding the "!"). None
of these are GIs, of course. And the
PARMA BRAND registration could form the
basis for entering PARMA BRAND into the
TMCH (again noting the disagreement on
how such text plus design marks should
be handled). This too, is not a GI, even
if it used for meat products (but not
prosciutto) made in the great city of
Pittsburgh, PA. <a
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href="https://www.parmasausage.com/">https://www.parmasausage.com/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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I've attached a document with some of
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 29,
2017 5:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jonathan Agmon <<a
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<b>Cc:</b> J. Scott Evans <<a
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg]
Agenda and documents for Working
Group call this week<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">A
common misconception. The
TMCH is a database. Nothing
more. It is a database used
to facilitate two RPM's:
Sunrise and TM Claims.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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from that, the population of
the TMCH database needs to
serve RPMs -- Trademark
Sunrise and/or Trademark
Claims. GIs are not
consistently treated as
trademarks, and where they
are, it is often because
they separately and
independently meet the
criteria set for trademarks
such as certification
marks. Claiming that GIs
<u>are</u> trademarks (or
even "marks") is not
something I can support,
based on 30.5 years of
practice (as long as we are
counting rings on trees, so
to speak). Why would GIs go
into a trademark database?
Mixing GIs and trademarks as
if they were
indistinguishable makes no
sense. Further, it makes no
sense to even discuss any
changes to the TMCH, or the
establishment of additional
databases, until we discuss
changes or additions to the
RPMs such as Trademark
Sunrise and Trademark
Claims. A record in the
TMCH without a corresponding
RPM cannot be seriously
contemplated. Until one
identifies an RPM for GIs,
there is no reason to
establish a Clearinghouse
for GIs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Whether
or not there should be an
RPM for GIs is a valid point
for discussion. This is not
the right time for that
discussion. Jamming GIs
into the TMCH on the theory
that GIs are trademarks is
not the right way to avoid
that discussion. That some
GIs are sometimes trademarks
in some jurisdictions and
sometimes also qualify as
trademarks in other
jurisdictions is not a valid
basis for treating all GIs
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lang="ZH-CN">胡</span><span
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Herzliya,
<span
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<p
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The
EU, as all the
other
countries
having GIs
independent
system,
provides
transparent
registration
systems, with
opposition
procedures. So
registration
is needed in
the EU too.
Two different
views
(independent /
sui generis
systems or
trademark),
both
legitimate at
the
international
level.
<br>
<br>
Best, Massimo
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com" target="_blank">J. Scott Evans</a></span><br>
<b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sent:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">29.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">04.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">2017
16:02</span><br>
<b><span
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<b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Subject:
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</b><span
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[gnso-rpm-wg]
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documents for
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call this week</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal">I
stand by my
original point.
They GI's are
not protected
consistently. In
the US, Parma is
not protected
without a US
trademark
registration.
Not so in
Europe. Two
different views
on the scope of
rights.<br>
<br>
Sent from my
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On Apr 29, 2017,
at 6:58 AM,
Massimo <<a
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wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The
disagreement
concerns
whether to
protect GIs
via an
independent
system or via
trademarks,
but not the GI
concept
itself. But
for the time
being
countries can
choose their
system, and
their choice
is legitimate.
<br>
<br>
An example:
prosciutto di
Parma is a GI
in the EU. As
the product is
exported in
the US, the
association of
producers owns
now a
certification
mark there for
exactly the
same name. So
Prosciutto di
Parma can be
for sure in
the TMCH.<br>
<br>
But if that
product was
exported only
within Europe
or the Asian
countries I
mentioned in
an earlier
email having
independent GI
systems (so no
certification
mark on the
same name was
available), do
not you think
that being
excluded from
the TMCH (as
well as from
dispute
resolution)
would have
been
discriminatory?
<br>
<br>
Again, I think
we should
spend more
time on those
issues rather
than rushing
to a
conclusion
which might
not reflect
the existing
situation.
<br>
<br>
Best, Massimo
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com" target="_blank">J. Scott Evans</a></span><br>
<b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sent:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">29.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">04.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">2017
15:18</span><br>
<b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">To:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a
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href="mailto:Massimo@origin-gi.com" target="_blank">Massimo</a></span><br>
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<b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Subject:
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<p
class="MsoNormal">I
spoke directly
with
representatives
from the USPTO
and I also
understand
USPTO
representatives
attended the
meeting at n
Copenhagen.
Based on my
discussions
with the
USPTO, I
disagree that
there is
universal
treatment of
GI's that are
not registered
as trademarks.
In fact, I
know that the
scope of
protection for
GI's has been
a thorny issue
in
international
trade
negotiations
since at least
the 1930's. It
has s not a
settled point
by any means.<br>
<br>
Sent from my
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Apr 29,
2017, at 6:08
AM, Massimo
<<a
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href="mailto:Massimo@origin-gi.com" target="_blank">Massimo@origin-gi.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hi,
I was trying
to show that
luck of
understanding
about GIs does
not exist any
more as the
large majority
of countries
have specific
laws with
transparent
registration
processes.
There is not
divergence at
all in terms
of definition
of the GI
concept and
obligation to
protect that
IPR concept
(TRIPs
Agreement).
The WG should
make proposals
that reflect
the current
legal and
economic
reality.
<br>
<br>
Best, Massimo
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">J. Scott Evans via
gnso-rpm-wg</a></span><br>
<b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sent:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">29.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">04.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">2017
14:46</span><br>
<b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">To:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal" target="_blank">Jonathan Agmon</a></span><br>
<b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Cc:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a></span><br>
<b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Subject:
</span>
</b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Re:
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Agenda and
documents for
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<p
class="MsoNormal">I
disagree. I
was on the
IRT. GI's were
never
discussed. It
is precisely
because there
is no
universal
understanding
or treatment
of GI's that
only those
GI's that
are"marks" aka
"trademarks"
should be
allowed in the
TMCH. Paul
Mc's proposal
is the correct
Avenue to
address this
over
inclusiveness.<br>
<br>
Sent from my
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Apr 28,
2017, at 8:36
PM, Jonathan
Agmon <<a
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Paul,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
am not sure
about the
broad
alignment,
especially not
outside the
US. There are
differing
opinions on
the issue.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
still disagree
with you basic
understanding
of GIs. GIs
are marks as
they are
comprised of
text words.
GIs are
trademarks
when they
denote the
source of
goods. They
can be
registered in
national
trademark
registries.
The only
difference
between the US
and other
countries is
where they are
registered.
This is not a
basis for
exclusion from
the TMCH. In
most countries
of the world
GI
registration
is performed
in the
trademark
registry (GI
section) or in
a specialized
GI registry. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Since
the TMCH is a
very important
protection
rights
protection
mechanism,
available to
brand owners,
and in most
countries of
the world, the
general view
is that GIs
are a type of
trademarks, I
make the
following
alternative
proposal:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">“GIs comprise of word marks. When
registered,
GIs serve as
collective
trademarks. If
a GI is the
subject of a
national
trademark
registration,
or a national
GI
registration,
it could have
been, in the
past, and may
be included,
in the future
in, the TMCH.
For any GIs
that are not
the subject of
a national
trademark or
GI
registration,
or otherwise
qualified for
registration
under the
Trademark
Clearinghouse
Guidelines, at
the time of
registration,
which are
currently
registered in
the TMCH, such
GIs should not
be renewed in
the TMCH upon
expiration.”<o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Finally,
please note
that my time
zone is UTC+8.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
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<b>On Behalf
Of </b>icannlists<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Friday, April
28, 2017 9:35
PM<br>
<b>To:</b>
claudio di
gangi <<a
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Mary Wong <<a
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icannlists
<<a
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<b>Subject:</b>
Re:
[gnso-rpm-wg]
Agenda and
documents for
Working Group
call this week</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks
Claudio.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You
aren’t missing
anything. The
fact that the
co-chairs
didn’t dismiss
outright the
request of a
few to dig a
bit deeper
before moving
on isn’t
unusual. It
is very
ICANN.
However, that
doesn’t change
the reality
that there
appears to be
broad
alignment
across all
sorts of the
usual lines
that GIs,
unless they
are also
registered
trademarks,
should not be
included in
the
<b><u>Trademark</u></b>
Clearinghouse. Further, as of now, there is no proposal in the record
to the
contrary,
although I do
note that
Jonathan A.
indicated that
he may submit
one.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
hope you are
well. It is
good to see
you actively
participating
in an ICANN WG
again!
Welcome back.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Paul</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
claudio di
gangi [</span><a
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target="_blank"><span
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<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Friday, April
28, 2017 1:49
PM<br>
<b>To:</b>
Mary Wong <</span><a
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">mary.wong@icann.org</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">;
icannlists
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<b>Subject:</b>
Re:
[gnso-rpm-wg]
Agenda and
documents for
Working Group
call this week</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">Thanks,
Paul.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">I
listened to
that part of
the call
again, and
after the
presentation
of the
proposal, Phil
took comments
from George,
Greg, and
Jonathan (all
provided
input/ideas
about ways GIs
could be
protected) and
there was a
request for
staff to
obtain more
background on
the 'marks
protected by
statute or
treaty'
language.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">There
didn't seem to
be a
conclusion,
hence my
earlier email
about next
steps.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">Please
let me know if
I missing
something.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">Claudio<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">On
Fri, Apr 28,
2017 at 2:09
PM icannlists
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:icannlists@winston.com" target="_blank">icannlists@winston.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks
Claudio.
However, after
the last WG
call I thought
we had reached
the opposite
conclusion
that there was
little or no
interest in
taking up the
GIs issue at
this time.
Jonathan A.
thought he
might put
forward a
third proposal
on GIs, but I
haven’t seen
that yet on
this (or at
least I don’t
think I
have).
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Paul</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
</span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
[mailto:</span><a
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target="_blank"><span
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">]
<b>On Behalf
Of </b>claudio
di gangi<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Friday, April
28, 2017 12:58
PM<br>
<b>To:</b>
Mary Wong <</span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">mary.wong@icann.org</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>;
</span><a
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href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re:
[gnso-rpm-wg]
Agenda and
documents for
Working Group
call this week</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">Mary,
all,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">I
just recently
joined the WG,
so I'm reading
the listserve
to get caught
up to speed.
It's been very
helpful and
informative to
review all the
contributions.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">An
initial
question: is a
work plan
being
established
for addressing
issues that
were discussed
on Wednesday's
call? <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">For
example, on
Paul and
Kathy's
proposal
related to GIs
- I think the
group has
identified a
good issue
worthy of
further
analysis, e.g.
should GIs be
protected
against
registration
abuse, as a
consumer
safeguard in
new gTLDs?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">If
that approach
is supported
by the
analysis, they
could be
registered in
the limited
registration
period that is
currently
described in
the Applicant
Guidebook,
that takes
place
following the
Sunrise
period,
supported by
the
Clearinghouse
or an
ancillary
database.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">On
the basis that
further
analysis of
this topic
would be
helpful to
inform WG
deliberations,
where should
it take place
- on the
Sunrise
subteam or
somewhere
else?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">I'm
looking
forward to
working with
everyone on
the team.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">Claudio<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal">On
Tue, Apr 25,
2017 at 2:42
PM Mary Wong
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">The proposed agenda for our call this Thursday
at 0300 UTC
(reminder:
Wednesday
evening/night
for those in
the Americas)
is as follows;
please also
see the Notes
that are
included
below:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="gmail-m8477942695561007196m345005064494516692m-8330921355273813136m1679149006619699625msolistparagraph"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">1.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Roll
call (via
Adobe Connect
and phone
bridge only);
updates to
Statements of
Interest</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="gmail-m8477942695561007196m345005064494516692m-8330921355273813136m1679149006619699625msolistparagraph"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">2.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Report
on progress
and status
updates from
the co-chairs
of the Sunrise
and Claims
Notice Sub
Teams (Lori
Schulman,
Kristine
Dorrain &
Michael
Graham) – 5
minutes for
each Sub Team
update</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="gmail-m8477942695561007196m345005064494516692m-8330921355273813136m1679149006619699625msolistparagraph"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">3.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Discuss
consolidated
table of
proposals
received on
TMCH Open
Questions 7, 8
and 10 (see
Notes below)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="gmail-m8477942695561007196m345005064494516692m-8330921355273813136m1679149006619699625msolistparagraph"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">4.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Notice
of deadline
for further
follow up
questions to
the Analysis
Group</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt">5.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span>
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Next
steps/next
meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:11.0pt">Notes:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">o</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">For
<u>Agenda Item
#2</u>, the
composition,
meeting
transcripts
and current
work status of
each of the
two Sub Teams
can be viewed
at their
respective
wiki pages:
</span><a
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href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.icann.org%2Fx%2FmsrRAw&data=02%7C01%7C%7C7347c4562ec2456efb8208d48eb0f556%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636290338068704072&sdata=LV2xP0GxXnJT%2Fysb%2BD07uiVkoTLxZsxFmJtHHuZWZt0%3D&reserved=0"
target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">https://community.icann.org/x/msrRAw</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> (Sunrise) and </span><a
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target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">https://community.icann.org/x/psrRAw</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt"> (Claims).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">o</span><span
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</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">For
<u>Agenda Item
#3</u>, please
review the
first attached
document. This
is the tabular
form of all
proposals
received to
date on the
three open
TMCH questions
(Questions 7,
8 and 10) as
of the 19
April
deadline.
Staff has not
edited the
language of
the proposals
received,
although we
have formatted
them to some
extent to
enable easier
reading, and
we have also
separated out
accompanying
rationale and
context (where
this was
provided) and
pasted these
into a second
table
(starting on
Page 7).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">For your reference, we are also attaching a
second
document,
which is a
compilation of
other
proposals
received so
far. Please
note that
these
proposals are
being
circulated for
your
information
only, and will
<u>not</u> be
discussed at
this time as
they concern
topics that
have either
been deferred
or that have
to do with
Sunrise and/or
Claims. The
co-chairs may
refer these to
the Sub Teams,
but only for
the specific
purpose of
seeing if the
subjects have
been covered
by existing
Charter
questions, or
if they can be
helpful in
refining the
existing
Charter
questions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:11.0pt">Finally, the co-chairs and staff are aware that
Working Group
members have
requested that
agendas and
documents be
circulated as
much in
advance of the
minimum
24-hour
deadline as
possible. We
were not able
to comply with
that request
this week due
to a personal
situation for
one of the
co-chairs;
however, going
forward, the
co-chairs plan
to meet with
staff every
Friday to
ensure that
agendas and,
if possible,
documents, are
available and
distributed
earlier.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
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style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks and cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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