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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Greg, oriGIn worldwide compilations of all GIs recognised in the world will be finalized and available in October. I will see if I can give access to the compilation to the WG before
 its publication. I can already tell you that a majority of GIs recognised (at least 7.000 out of a total of 8.000) are registered under independent systems, often managed by the same authorities in charge of trademarks in their country. I hope this will help.
 But, as you said, we await the co-chairs to tell us how the Charter question on GIs will be handled. Best, Massimo &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 20 May 2017 22:08<br>
<b>To:</b> J. Scott Evans &lt;jsevans@adobe.com&gt;; Jonathan Agmon &lt;jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dorrain, Kristine via gnso-rpm-wg &lt;gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items from Review of all RPMs in all gTLDs PDP Working Group Call - 17 May 2017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I agree with the clarification -- we're talking about&nbsp;<u>registered</u> GIs, but excluding trademarks.&nbsp; Unregistered GIs are not part of this discussion and neither are trademarks.&nbsp; In other words, we are discussing GIs
 that are registered in <i>sui generis </i>protection systems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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 part of the TMCH, Sunrise and Claims.). We would need a greater depth of knowledge about how GIs are protected in those countries that protect GIs under a registration scheme (other than through the trademark laws). &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">My general understanding is that various jurisdictions protect GIs in widely differing ways -- some have GI registries (with differing criteria and differeng protections), some have statutes that protect specified GIs,
 some protect GIs through regulatory/administrative/trade-related means, some protect GIs only through &quot;curative&quot; means using litigation (which further breaks down to whether they use unfair competition or passing off theories or both), and some may not protect
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I'll let J. Scott speak for himself, but I think his point was that a significant level of international parity is a necessary foundation for us to create &quot;ICANN-style&quot; RPMs -- and the vastly differing variety of approaches
 to GI protections evidences a notable lack of international parity and consistency, which in turn raises concerns about the prudence of this WG creating RPMs for GIs.&nbsp; This does not need to be the last word on the subject, but it is a subject that will require
 truly significant debate and exploration.&nbsp; I think these are the reasons why J Scott suggested the approach summarized by Mary Wong in her recent email -- not to quash debate but to find the right forum for it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On a related note, when I think about what we would need to accomplish to do justice to the issues involving GIs, I do share Paul McGrady's concern that such an exploration would add a year to our work.&nbsp; My concern is
 that a subteam would have an extensive course of work, and that finding time in the work plan to do it would be extremely challenging.&nbsp; I don't think the subteam needs to exist now, since its scope does not overlap with the TMCH questions.&nbsp; The TMCH question
 that's relevant here is what is meant by &quot;mark protected by statute or treaty&quot; and that is one we should focus on now, through Paul and Kathy's proposals<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Now we do have a Charter question that touches on GIs, and we need to look at that Charter question in due course and decide how to respond to it.&nbsp; How and when we'll do that, I'll leave to the Co-Chairs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:03 AM Jonathan Agmon &lt;</span><a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal"><span lang="EN-GB">jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal</span></a><span lang="EN-GB">&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I agree with your statement in general. I am not sure when it comes to protection of IP protected strings in the domain name system, international
 parity would provide a balance at the end of the day. This, &nbsp;because various countries have different forms of protection and would not necessarily agree with each other on how to protect some strings, even if they agree such forms of strings should be protected.
 Moreover, some in this space may abuse such lack of parity.&nbsp; I hope that the development of Policy in this WG would overcome such international lack of parity by agreeing on what should go in, even if some countries have disagreement about how to protect these
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I hope we can agree that applying the above to GIs, the lack of international parity should not prevent the WG from agreeing that some strings
 should be recorded for sunrise claims purposes. If the first stage is passed, then we should look into the minimum requirements to allow them into a TMCH/Ancillary database which would allow owners to enjoy sunrise claims. Such requirements should in my view
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I think Claudio’s proposal to have a sub-team review the various forms of registration/protection for GIs and recommend which ones should
 go into a database was proper to try and reach a clear and balanced solution for this type of strings.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 19, 2017 12:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jonathan Agmon &lt;</span><a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal"><span lang="EN-US">jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal</span></a><span lang="EN-US">&gt;<br>
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 Dorrain, Kristine via gnso-rpm-wg &lt;</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US">&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items from Review of all RPMs in all gTLDs PDP Working Group Call - 17 May 2017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On May 19, 2017, at 4:36 AM, Jonathan Agmon &lt;</span><a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">jonathan.agmon@ip-law.legal</span></a><span lang="EN-US">&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">To add to Claudio’s response as to Kristine’s question:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">“Is there a particular harm that you think companies with unregistered GIs face that other companies with other sorts of unregistered (or
 common law) marks aren’t facing?“</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I agree and support that not everyone should get in and the idea is not to get everyone in, but to accommodate foreign (non-US in this case)
<i>registration</i> systems. When it comes to GIs the US uses the trademark system to register GIs. In Europe, soon, you will not be able to register GIs as a trademark (Massimo can provide more details). In some countries, to register a GI you are required
 to use a special registry (see Brazil, India, Russia for example). Therefore, we should accommodate
<i>registered</i> GIs, if they are registered eithet as trademarks or under ancillary or &nbsp;<i>sui generis</i> registries. There are other forms of non-registration schemes for GI protection, which I didn't address and would personally think they should be excluded.&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">We can and should allow such strings protection when they are
<i>registered</i> under national laws and according to the various systems available.&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">I hope this answers the question more fully.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US">
</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US"> [</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>claudio di gangi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dorrain, Kristine &lt;</span><a href="mailto:dorraink@amazon.com" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">dorraink@amazon.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US">&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items from Review of all RPMs in all gTLDs PDP Working Group Call - 17 May 2017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">Kristine,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">Thank you, I think these are great questions. I provided a response below for your consideration. Also, Jonathan and Massimo are extremely
 well-versed in GIs, and they may be able to address any gaps in my analysis.&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">According to the TMCH Guidelines,&nbsp;</span><a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trademark-clearinghouse.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Ffiles%2Fdownloads%2FTMCH%2520guidelines%2520v1.0%2520_1.pdf&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C06f62058313f494a3f2d08d49e9222d9%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C1%7C636307797870426953&amp;sdata=fyTdAwtcRMA1ghjHsYrVgU37oTtwutAlM23Qs7bb%2B3s%3D&amp;reserved=0" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">http://www.trademark-clearinghouse.com/sites/default/files/files/downloads/TMCH%20guidelines%20v1.0%20_1.pdf</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">the following types of marks are eligible:&nbsp;(see p.7 of the TMCH Guidelines).</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">&quot;The following are not considered registered trademarks but might be eligible for inclusion in the Clearinghouse under another type of
 trademark:&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Well-known or famous trademarks, unless they are also registered;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Unregistered (including common law) trademark;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Court-validated marks;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Marks protected under statute or treaty;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Other marks that constitute intellectual property&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">In the United States, GIs are protected as a type of trademark. Specifically, they are afforded protection as a &quot;certification mark&quot;.
 Since&nbsp;the GI is registered as a &quot;certification mark&quot; in the U.S., the owner of the mark is not allowed to use it in commerce, but licenses the mark for use by producers and distributors.&nbsp;As a GI, the sign is used in commerce to certify that the goods associated
 with the mark originate in a particular location, and because of the characteristics of that location, the goods have a certain reputation for quality.&nbsp;As a certification mark, the mark can be recorded in the TMCH and is eligible for protection in both Sunrise
 and Claims.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">In other countries, GIs are protected based on national (or multi-national) laws that create a 'sui generis' system of protection for
 these types of signs. This is a special form of protection; &quot;sui genris&quot; from Latin, means &quot;of its own kind&quot;.&nbsp;In these countries, GIs are registered on a separate registry within the trademark office.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">The fundamental issue is the following:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">What is the rationale for protecting GIs in new gTLDs, when the GI is registered as a &quot;certification mark&quot; in the United States, but it
 is denied protection when the GI is registered in another country&nbsp;under a national law specifically for these types of signs? The GI is serving the same commercial function (as described above) within the country, whether it is registered as a certification
 mark or registered on the GI registry.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">I hope you find this explanation helpful. Please let me know of any questions/comments.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">Best regards,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt">Claudio</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Claudio,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">There are several types of rights not recorded in the TMCH.&nbsp; This was part of the balance that was stuck when the TMCH/Sunrise/Claims was
 formed.&nbsp; We don’t let in: common law marks, purely figurative marks, and non-registered GIs.&nbsp; The DB is for *<b>registered</b>* marks.&nbsp;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Is there a particular harm that you think companies with unregistered GIs face that other companies with other sorts of unregistered (or
 common law) marks aren’t facing?&nbsp; Not everyone gets in.&nbsp; We know this.&nbsp; Anyone with an unregistered mark (GI or otherwise) can get in the TMCH by registering their mark.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Can you help me understand why we need special rules for this particular class of mark?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US"> [mailto:</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>claudio di gangi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Amr Elsadr &lt;</span><a href="mailto:amr.elsadr@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">amr.elsadr@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US">&gt;; Mary Wong &lt;</span><a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">mary.wong@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US">&gt;;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items from Review of all RPMs in all gTLDs PDP Working Group Call - 17 May 2017<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Yes, this is very helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">For clarification, an important element of the proposal was not to have GIs recorded in the TMCH per se.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Rather, the proposal was to have a subteam consider whether the RPMs, as currently designed, afford protection to all GIs (as some GIs are not registered as TMs
 in certain jurisdictions), and if not, to consider changes to the RPMs to ensure protection for this type of IP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">If the outcome of that analysis is yes - GIs as a form of IP should be protected in new gTLDs, then a subsequent issue to be determined is whether GIs should
 be recorded in the TMCH, or an ancillary database maintained by the operator of the TMCH, which is currently Deloitte.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">So the issue is really about the RPMs and the protection of GIs (namely, those GIs that are not registered as trademarks, but are protected under national laws
 that do not require their registration on the trademark register).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">I hope this helps clarify. Please let me know if you have any questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you for your help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Claudio<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:12 PM Mary Wong &lt;</span><a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">mary.wong@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US">&gt;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Hello Claudio and everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">In the case of this particular Action Item, the staff understanding is that we will ask the full Working Group (especially those members who could not attend
 the call held earlier today) if they agree that the Working Group will not be considering the question of whether GIs should be included in the TMCH. If that is the general view of the Working Group, then the next step can be for those in favor of including
 GIs in the TMCH to work on a proposal that can be sent to the GNSO Council in respect of source identifiers (such as GIs and other than as registered trademarks) that may be protectable but not necessarily intended to be covered by the current scope of the
 TMCH. This may take the form of a new PDP or possibly be a separate matter to be discussed at the appropriate time by this group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">I hope this is helpful. Once the recording and transcript of the call today are available, staff will follow up with the Working Group to find out what the general
 view of the group is on this GI questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Mary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">&lt;</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">&gt; on behalf of claudio di gangi &lt;</span><a href="mailto:ipcdigangi@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">ipcdigangi@gmail.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 00:38<br>
<b>To: </b>Amr Elsadr &lt;</span><a href="mailto:amr.elsadr@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">amr.elsadr@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">&gt;, &quot;</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">&quot;
 &lt;</span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items from Review of all RPMs in all gTLDs PDP Working Group Call - 17 May 2017</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">I would like to request guidance on the last action item, #5...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">I'm confused why the Council would consider a PDP on the TMCH and a certain form of IP, when those issues are supposed to be addressed by this Working Group?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Claudio<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">1. Staff to circulate a call for consensus on the Working Group mailing list regarding the Working Group consideration of proposals to include Geographical Indications
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">2.&nbsp;Staff to consolidate resources of data/work available on consideration of non-exact matches generating Claims Notices, and share with the Working Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">3.&nbsp;Michael Graham to repost his proposal on trademark non-exact matches generating Claims Notices, with refinements based on discussions held to-date<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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