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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Agreed, Volker. Brian W – were you suggesting that the two categories of additional inexact “matches” be included in the TMCH in
addition to the categories Greg provided? On the second category (Related Brand Names) how would that play out in practice? Would we include every possible permutation of existing marks already contained in the TMCH? That would be quite the expansion of
the TMCH. Would it just for somehow related fields/services and if so, who would make the determination for “related” marks?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Volker Greimann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:04 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] A Proposal for Smarter Non-Exact Matches<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Hi Brian,<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p>why should such "telescoped terms" be protected at all? To take but two of your examples:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>sie.men - Siemen is a Dutch name. Sie also means "You" formally in German. <o:p>
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<p>NES.cafe - So if I wanted to open a retro-style gaming cafe for the Nintendo Entertainment System, that would trigger your proposed protections?
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>It seems to be assumed that if a string matches or is similar to a trademarked term, its registration equates to cybersquatting, but that is not the case. Such protections are overreaching and infringing on the ability of legitimate users of such strings.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>A trademark is only violated if the domain is used in a violating way or if the intent of the registration is to deprive or to extort from the trademark holder. ANY other use of the term is likely to be legitimate and should not in any way be made more difficult
than any other domain registration. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Volker<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 31.05.2017 um 20:28 schrieb Winterfeldt, Brian J.:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dear all:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">In response to a comment made on our call today suggesting that the attached, well drafted, proposal is a “comprehensive” representation of cybersquatting through non-exact
matches, we offer a few additional examples:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Telescoped Terms: These variations leverage TLD extensions as part of an identical or non-exact match trademark. For
example, COCA-CO.LA, SIE.MEN and NES.CAFE. </span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Related Brand Names: These variations either improperly attempt to use trademarks in a generic sense, or create consumer
confusion concerning the relationship between two or more otherwise unrelated trademarks. For example, GOOGLELINKEDIN.COM.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We are no longer surprised by the new and inventive ways cybersquatters develop each day to create consumer confusion online, and would strongly caution against any characterization
as truly comprehensive.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Brian</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Brian J. Winterfeldt</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Co-Head of Global Brand Management and Internet Practice</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Mayer Brown LLP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 29, 2017 10:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> gnso-rpm-wg<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rpm-wg] A Proposal for Smarter Non-Exact Matches</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">As I've mentioned earlier, I think that a proposal to use non-exact matches other than "mark contained" matches ("dumb matches") makes sense to pursue. Various types of matches have been discussed;
however, there has been no actual proposal for "smarter" matches that can be used by the group.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">The attached proposal seek to fill that gap. It is more in the nature of an addendum to the initial proposal on non-exact matches. However, it does provide a more formal proposal on the types
of non-exact matches to be considered. The intent is to provide a sufficient framework to discuss these types of non-exact matches and to add these non-exact matches to the proposal.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I hope that this helpful to the work of the group.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Greg</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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