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    <p>Hi Phil,</p>
    <p>interesting question. <br>
    </p>
    <p>I figure the notice process would have to be removed from the
      order process to be smooth and workable for all registration
      workflows. It would also likely not require the registrant to
      "click a link" somewhere as that is counter to all phishing
      warnings out there. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Ultimately, I assume this would result in a post-registration
      notice with an option to return the domain name for a refund.
      Potentially such a notice could be tied to the activation of the
      domain in the DNS. <br>
    </p>
    <p>I also like the model that .xxx used for confirmation of
      eligibility. While it is not ideal, some form of post-registration
      requirement to confirm to keep the ability to use the domain might
      work better and reduce abandonment. <br>
    </p>
    <p>A general warning that the registrant has the obligation to check
      whether the registration violates third party rights before
      completing the request is included in the registration agreements
      of most registrars anyway, so there already is a warning, even
      though it is not specific.</p>
    <p>(KS RA): <i>"Customer undertakes to guarantee that the
        applied-for domain name and the intended use of the domain name:
        (a) do not violate rights of third parties, (...)"</i></p>
    <p>Best,</p>
    <p>Volker<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 09.06.2017 um 18:26 schrieb Phil
      Corwin:<br>
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            Volker for that useful feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            there a practical way to redesign the Notice process that
            aligns with registrar business practices while still
            generating Notice to applicants for at least exact matches
            of TMCH terms?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            Philip<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Volker Greimann<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 09, 2017 12:12 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Greg Shatan; J. Scott Evans<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] TMCH data on
                abandonment<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p>Greg, thanks for asking.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>The way the process is designed, its requirements cannot be
          met in certain scenarios.
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>The pre-order scenario conflicts with the requirement that
          the registration may only be requested if the agreement to the
          notice is not older than [x time]. So we cannot pre-fetch the
          notices and present them at the time of the order as the
          registration would occur at a time when the agreement to the
          notice has already expired. This is checked in the
          registration path, e.g. registrars have to provide the
          timestamp and other details during the registration.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>In the reseller scenario, we simply cannot meet the
          responsibility of making sure that the agreement is provided
          by the registrant and not another party. As this agreement
          happens outside of our system, we cannot make sure who
          confirmed the notice. Hence the need to get a notice directly
          to the registrant to ensure that he has seen the notice and
          confirmed his intent to register the string anyway. Anything
          else would require that all resellers insert code into their
          registration portals that we would provide, might not be
          compatible, etc. Many resellers also operate on third party
          platforms, such as Parallels/Odin, making additional
          implementation costly and time-consuming.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>Finally, even with our own direct customers we cannot be
          certain that the person owning the account is registering the
          domain name from himself. Personally, I manage the domain
          names of my entire extended family and have registered domains
          for many of them. They would be in the whois as registrants,
          but I would be the person making the order (and potentially
          confirming the notice).<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Essentially,
          the entire notice process was badly designed from the
          viewpoint of many registrars as it made assumptions about how
          the registration process works that missed the target in many
          cases. It causes consumer confusion, reseller frustration and
          loss of income for both registries and registrars from
          legitimate customers who simply do not realize they have to do
          an extra step that does not apply to all other regular
          registrations they do.<br>
          <br>
          Personally, I would advocate doing away with claims notices to
          domain applicants and simply relying on the notification
          process to the rights holders.
          <br>
          <br>
          Hope this helps.<br>
          <br>
          Best,<br>
          Volker<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Am 09.06.2017 um 17:53 schrieb Greg
            Shatan:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I
                  agree that our recommendations should include
                  suggested data collection and metrics.  The data
                  desert we are wandering in needs to be irrigated so
                  that it will bloom.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I
                  think Brian's data is helpful in that it provides some
                  real data on a baseline of abandonment.  Not enough to
                  make conclusions but it provides some sense of a
                  typical abandonment rate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I
                  think Volker points out an implementation problem, but
                  one that deserves better understanding -- why are some
                  notices not able to be generated in the "normal" path?
                  Where does the problem lie?  This may make more sense
                  to discuss when we reach discussion of the Claims
                  Notice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">So
                  far, it's still my personal impression is that we
                  don't have enough data to draw any conclusions
                  regarding abandonment and its causes (Trademark Notice
                  vs. Other Reasons, "Good" Chilling Effect v. "Bad"
                  Chilling Effect).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">FYI
                  FWIW, <a href="http://hotel.xyz"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">
                    hotel.xyz</a> is available as a premium domain at
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                  comparison to hotel.design or hotel.party, which are
                  $6,499.99)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Also
                  FYI, the owner of
                  <a href="http://cloud.xyz" moz-do-not-send="true">cloud.xyz</a>
                  (which seems to resolve to a blank page) is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">G
                  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">​</span><span
style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">reg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">​</span><span
style="font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:00 AM, J.
                Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg &lt;<a
                  href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>&gt;
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Volker:<br>
                <br>
                Thanks for this perspective. I know that my marketing
                team struggles with what they call “stickiness” of a
                registration process. Specifically, they are always
                looking for ways to streamline the registration process
                because the “stickier” the process (the more steps need
                to complete registration) leads to a high drop off rate.
                Your antidotal evidence certainly aligns with the same
                type of situation my folks at Adobe find difficult in
                selling our subscriptions.<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                J. Scott Evans<br>
                <a href="tel:408.536.5336" moz-do-not-send="true">408.536.5336</a> (tel)<br>
                345 Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544<br>
                Director, Trademarks<br>
                <a href="tel:408.709.6162" moz-do-not-send="true">408.709.6162</a> (cell)<br>
                San Jose, CA, 95110, USA<br>
                Adobe. Make It an Experience.<br>
                <a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">jsevans@adobe.com</a><br>
                <a href="http://www.adobe.com" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">www.adobe.com</a><br>
                <br>
                <br>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">On 6/9/17, 7:52 AM, "<a
                      href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                    on behalf of Volker Greimann" &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                    on behalf of
                    <a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br>
                    <br>
                        There can be a significant drop-off due the
                    necessity to present this<br>
                        notice seperate from the purchase process.<br>
                    <br>
                        Examples:<br>
                    <br>
                        1) Potential Registrant pre-orders a domain: the
                    notice cannot be<br>
                        presented at the time of purchase<br>
                    <br>
                        2) Potential Registrant orders the domain
                    through a reseller with its<br>
                        own front-end: the notice cannot be presented by
                    the registrar in the<br>
                        purchase process<br>
                    <br>
                        Result =&gt; Notice has to be presented after
                    the order is received but<br>
                        before it is executed in an alternate process,
                    usually email. While we<br>
                        have not at the time measured the actual rate,
                    we did note a significant<br>
                        drop-off between the numbers of registrants
                    directed to visit a website<br>
                        where the notice could be presented and
                    confirmed and the number of<br>
                        mails sent. The drop-off between the number of
                    customers visiting the<br>
                        site, seeing the notice and then deciding not to
                    pursue the registration<br>
                        was smaller.<br>
                    <br>
                        Conclusion: The current noticeconfirmation
                    process that is supposed to<br>
                        be in the registration path does not work well
                    in real life for many<br>
                        industry sales channel.<br>
                    <br>
                        Best,<br>
                    <br>
                        Volker<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                        Am 09.06.2017 um 16:28 schrieb J. Scott Evans
                    via gnso-rpm-wg:<br>
                        &gt; Brain. Point taken. I don’t mean to be
                    flippant. That said, I am growing increasing tired
                    of there always being a negative inference from
                    behaviors from those that are overall hostile to
                    RPMs in general. My point is that as a proponent of
                    RPMs and someone who worked diligently for over 9
                    months to come up with these RPMs that the
                    abandonment rate does not automatically indicate
                    that the system is not working as intended.<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt; J. Scott Evans<br>
                        &gt; <a href="tel:408.536.5336"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">408.536.5336</a> (tel)<br>
                        &gt; 345 Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544<br>
                        &gt; Director, Trademarks<br>
                        &gt; 408.709.6162 (cell)<br>
                        &gt; San Jose, CA, 95110, USA<br>
                        &gt; Adobe. Make It an Experience.<br>
                        &gt; <a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">jsevans@adobe.com</a><br>
                        &gt; <a href="http://www.adobe.com"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.adobe.com</a><br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt; On 6/9/17, 7:24 AM, "Brian F. Cimbolic"
                    &lt;<a href="mailto:BCimbolic@pir.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">BCimbolic@pir.org</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;      J. Scott, respectfully, what evidence
                    is there that the Claims notice provided to
                    registrants is not having a chilling effect for
                    those with no intention to infringe?  I understand
                    there is not direct evidence on either side of the
                    issue, but to say decisively that it is "Not so"
                    about the chilling effect without providing some
                    evidence seems unnecessarily flippant.<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;      Brian Cimbolic<br>
                        &gt;      Deputy General Counsel, Public
                    Interest Registry<br>
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                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;      -----Original Message-----<br>
                        &gt;      From: <a
                      href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                    [mailto:<a
                      href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                    On Behalf Of J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg<br>
                        &gt;      Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:19 AM<br>
                        &gt;      To: Rebecca Tushnet &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:Rebecca.Tushnet@law.georgetown.edu"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">Rebecca.Tushnet@law.georgetown.edu</a>&gt;;
                    Beckham, Brian &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>&gt;<br>
                        &gt;      Cc: <a
                      href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                        &gt;      Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] TMCH data
                    on abandonment<br>
                        &gt;      Importance: High<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;      I will remind the group that
                    Abandonment is the point. The TM Claims notice is
                    designed to inform would-be innocent infringers that
                    there is an issue. A high abandonment rate show that
                    the system is working. I realize those hostile to
                    the TM Claims feel that a high abandonment rate is
                    proof that the Claims notice is overreaching. Not
                    so.<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;      J. Scott<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;      J. Scott Evans<br>
                        &gt;      <a href="tel:408.536.5336"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">408.536.5336</a> (tel)<br>
                        &gt;      345 Park Avenue, Mail Stop W11-544<br>
                        &gt;      Director, Trademarks<br>
                        &gt;      <a href="tel:408.709.6162"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">408.709.6162</a> (cell)<br>
                        &gt;      San Jose, CA, 95110, USA<br>
                        &gt;      Adobe. Make It an Experience.<br>
                        &gt;      <a href="mailto:jsevans@adobe.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">jsevans@adobe.com</a><br>
                        &gt;      <a href="http://www.adobe.com"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.adobe.com</a><br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;      On 6/9/17, 7:16 AM, "<a
                      href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                    on behalf of Rebecca Tushnet" &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
                    on behalf of
                    <a href="mailto:Rebecca.Tushnet@law.georgetown.edu"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">Rebecca.Tushnet@law.georgetown.edu</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          I agree with Paul K. 
                    Unfortunately, we need better information than<br>
                        &gt;          that--we need to know about, of
                    attempts that reached the stage at<br>
                        &gt;          which a notice would be provided,
                    how many were abandoned.  It's my<br>
                        &gt;          understanding--though I'd be happy
                    to learn more--that the notice<br>
                        &gt;          wouldn't come when the shopping
                    cart was filled but at checkout.<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          If we just don't have the data,
                    then it may be that our only<br>
                        &gt;          recommendation must be to get the
                    data.<br>
                        &gt;          Rebecca Tushnet<br>
                        &gt;          Georgetown Law<br>
                        &gt;          <a href="tel:703%20593%206759"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">703 593 6759</a><br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 4:56 AM,
                    Beckham, Brian &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; Dear all,<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; I’m not sure what is the
                    right venue (i.e., in the sub-group, of which I am<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; not a member, or to the full
                    WG) to offer this, and it is offered merely to<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; help fill out some of the
                    questions/discussion around seeking various<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; TMCH/Claims-related data.<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; In the transcript for the Sub
                    Team for Trademark Claims call on Friday, 02<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; June 2017 at 16:00 UTC, there
                    was some discussion on abandonment rates.  In<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; summary:  Rebeca Tushnet
                    suggested it would be helpful to compare<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; non-TMCH-related abandonment
                    vs “regular” abandonment.  Jeff Neuman recalled<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; that during the BIZ launch
                    there was a high abandonment.  Phil Corwin<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; suggested that if the
                    non-TMCH-related abandonment rate was 80% then it
                    may<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; be reasonable to conclude
                    that there’s not a material difference between<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; those subject to claims
                    notices.<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; Mindful that it may be
                    difficult or even impossible to obtain the desired<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; data (a number of reasons,
                    including competitive (dis-)advantages, were<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; raised on the call), a recent
                    GoDaddy post informs us that “An average<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; website loses 69 percent of
                    sales to abandoned carts.”   A second GoDaddy<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; article suggests it is 67%.<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; See<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; <a
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                        &gt;          &gt; and<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; <a
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                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; There are many articles on
                    this topic with varying figures, but they tended<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; to generally note abandonment
                    rates upwards of 60%.<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; The takeaway is that the
                    TMCH-Claims rates observed here in the WG, while<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; different/higher, are
                    arguably not materially different than e-commerce<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; statistics generally
                    (certainly not the 20% noted by Phil Corwin as<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; signaling “a significant
                    difference in the completion of registration.”).<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; It is important here to
                    recall too that many members of the WG have noted<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; that (for a number of
                    reasons) registries, registrars, and registrants may<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; have been sending queries in
                    large numbers, thus skewing the data upwards.<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; Best regards,<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; Brian<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt;<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; Brian Beckham | Head,
                    Internet Dispute Resolution Section | WIPO
                    Arbitration<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; and Mediation Center<br>
                        &gt;          &gt; 34 chemin des Colombettes,
                    1211 Geneva 20, Switzerland | T <a
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                        &gt;          &gt; E <a
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        <pre>Volker A. Greimann<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>- Rechtsabteilung -<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
        <pre>Key-Systems GmbH<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>Im Oberen Werk 1<o:p></o:p></pre>
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        <pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Volker A. Greimann
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Key-Systems GmbH
Im Oberen Werk 1
66386 St. Ingbert
Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
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