<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Brian,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I was going to <i>ad nauseum</i> instead of &quot;at length&quot;; otherwise, I fully concur and support your remarks.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Beckham, Brian <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int" target="_blank">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">This rather fundamental topic was addressed at length from the IRT reports through to the various AGB iterations – it was what led to agreement around the notion of “proof
 of use” and various national trademark office examination procedures.   <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">On this, in a
<a href="http://www.wipo.int/export/sites/www/amc/en/docs/icann260110.pdf" target="_blank">letter dated January 26, 2010</a> on the  “STI Report on Trademark Protection in New gTLDs”, we said:
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ICANN policy development related to the technical coordination of the DNS should respect international and national legal and policy instruments. As
 presently drafted, the STI Report prima facie permits registries and the URS to discriminate against jurisdictions that do not conduct “substantive review” of trademark applications (TC §§ 4.1, 5.2, and 6.2, Annexes 6 and 7). Presumably this is meant to exclude
 trademarks registered with national IP offices that do not conduct examination on relative grounds. 
<i>[footnote]</i>  It may be noted that these offices routinely provide for opposition procedures achieving similar effect. The STI recommendation goes against the observation made by the WIPO Standing Committee on the Law of Trademarks, Industrial Designs
 and Geographical Indications in connection with the “Relation Between Opposition and Examination Procedures,” that neither approach (examination on relative grounds or opposition procedures) constitutes a preferred model.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">[footnote]</span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> E.g., Austria, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Switzerland,
 the United Kingdom, Benelux, and the EC (OHIM).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">That comment remains valid today.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Tattersfield<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mary Wong<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] FOR ACTION: Working Group members&#39; poll on open TMCH questions<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the Design Marks and GIs survey.<br>
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When some jurisdictions require substantive review of marks entering their trademark database and others give out marks like confetti for any conceivable idea you might wish to pursue in the future and, given the TMCH has to sit on top of all jurisdictions,
 I think there is a fundamental question that needs to be answered before delving into the detail of the other questions since its answer impacts the approach taken in most of the other questions.The first question has to be:
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Should we require a substantive review of all marks entering the TMCH?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 4:19 AM, Mary Wong &lt;<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please be informed that the poll to assess the sense of all members of the Working Group, in relation to certain types of design marks (i.e. stylized
 and composite marks) and to treatment of geographical indications, is now open. <u>
Please be sure to fill in your response by <b>23.59 UTC on Monday 10 July</b></u>:
<a href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/WV26DQK" target="_blank">https://www.surveymonkey.com/<wbr>r/WV26DQK</a>.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">IMPORTANT NOTE:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">The Working Group co-chairs, assisted by staff, have developed a Reference Guide containing relevant definitions (i.e. of “stylized marks” and “composite marks”) as well as of relevant examples.
<u>This Reference Guide is attached for your convenience, and it should be consulted as Working Group members go through the survey</u>, which consists of 11 substantive questions and we believe ought
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Finally, please also note – the poll should be taken only by Working Group members, and not observers.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks and cheers</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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