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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dear Working Group members:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I would like to recall some points made in an email I sent to the list on 13-April: the number of sunrise registrations per new gTLD launch was an average of 130 (I believe
the high-water-mark was 950). This alone seems to mitigate against further investigation for evidence of abusive use of Sunrises.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Are there some speculators that have obtained trademark registrations for dictionary words that then used them for purposes of getting names in Sunrises? Of course. In
fact, here’s one example:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://domainincite.com/16492-how-one-guy-games-new-gtld-sunrise-periods">http://domainincite.com/16492-how-one-guy-games-new-gtld-sunrise-periods</a>.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">All this said, it is still difficult to see how obtaining a list of marks in the TMCH would allow anyone to assess the extent of any abuse
<b><i>beyond what we already know</i></b>. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">To answer Paul Keating’s question:
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">- as to Sunrises: “no”, the numbers simply do not bear this out<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">- as to Claims/abandonment: there is simply no way to know the reasons for
<b><i>past</i></b> abandonment <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Additionally, I have found several external sources (links have been provided to this list) pointing to 65% or so as a “normal” abandonment rate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Also, Jeff Neumann has advanced on several occasions that a large portion of the abandoned registration attempts were not actual registration attempts, but registries, registrars,
and registrants pinging the TMCH in an attempt to find commercially-valuable information. Perhaps such practices should be examined in more detail.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Neuman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Volker Greimann; gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Inferences (was Re: Mp3, Attendance, AC recording & AC Chat Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Volker,</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Since we do not know what has caused the abandonment of applications (for lack of getting any reliable data from Registrars or Registries), I don’t believe
we should come to the conclusion that the rate of abandonment is a problem. And if it is not a problem, then there is no reason to reduce the level.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For whatever reason, many have come to the conclusion that the rate of abandonment is a problem. I know personally I am not there yet. Given the incredibly
high abandonment rate we saw in .biz in 2001 from the trademark claims service (as reported publicly in the Summit Strategies report), and given the fact that I have my own theories on why the rate is so high (which I cannot prove either), I am not convinced
that this high rate was unexpected.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This is the point I was trying to make yesterday on the call. If we cannot show why the abandonment rate if too high (or why it was a problem), then why
are we trying to find a solution by trying to lower it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#0F9347">Jeffrey J. Neuman</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#4F4F4F">T: +1.703.635.7514<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#4F4F4F">M: +1.202.549.5079<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#4F4F4F">@Jintlaw<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Volker Greimann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 13, 2017 10:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Inferences (was Re: Mp3, Attendance, AC recording & AC Chat Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>I still feel that the best way to remove abandonment would be to remove the notices from the registration path and place them in the post-registration notice path. Extending the notice period for trademark holders might help be a good compromise.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Volker<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 13.07.2017 um 16:25 schrieb Jon Nevett:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Georges: Denying that there were abuses of the TMCH won't help either. There have been plenty presented to date (see below). Let's try to solve the problems and not deny that they exist. Obviously, there is some abandonment based on
the notices -- let's work to minimize the rate of abandonment by legitimate registrants without unduly hurting the protections afforded to legitimate rights holders. Jon <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.thedomains.com/2017/02/01/the-trademark-clearinghouse-worked-so-well-one-company-got-24-new-gtld-using-the-famous-trademark-the/">https://www.thedomains.com/2017/02/01/the-trademark-clearinghouse-worked-so-well-one-company-got-24-new-gtld-using-the-famous-trademark-the/</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.thedomains.com/2014/03/22/tmch-has-plenty-of-trademarks-of-generic-words/">https://www.thedomains.com/2014/03/22/tmch-has-plenty-of-trademarks-of-generic-words/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jul 13, 2017, at 9:37 AM, Nahitchevansky, Georges <<a href="mailto:ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com">ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I think the basis problem has been and remains that the basis for all this hunting around and data requests is an unfounded claim that there is an abundance of “abusive
and overreaching tmch registrations.” The evidence of such alleged widespread abuse has not been presented, because it doesn’t exist. What all this sound and fury about data etc. reminds me of is Donald Trump claiming with basically no evidence that there
was widespread voter fraud to explain why he do not get the majority of the popular vote in the US and then setting up a special commission to investigate the matter in the hope of cobbling together some sort of proof. In the end it’s a waste of everybody’s
time and money.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Keating<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kurt Pritz<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Inferences (was Re: Mp3, Attendance, AC recording & AC Chat Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Well i want to do a short review here.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The issue. Is the tmch function resulting in overkill - in other words is it overly protecting mark holders at the expense of the public. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1st many were asking for a list of marks registered with the tmch. The point here was to understand what type of marks were actually being registered and under what conditions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This was met with loud objections by a few members who asserted confidentiality. I seem to recall that the tmch agreement itself contradicted any assertion of confidentiality. I suggested the list be made known without indication of
registrant identification. I also suggested the list be provided to a 3rd party under confidentiality so they could report to the group. There was no vote or attempt to measure consensus.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2nd we then considered the post-notice abandonment rate. This was a 2nd best data source trying to figure out the same original issue.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now it turns out that the data set was not stellar. People are not asserting this should be abandoned. This argument is being made by the same small group that objected to release of the marks registered with TMCH. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now the suggestion is to abandon any investigation into what is in TMCH or the statistical abandonment rate and instead look at the language of the notice itself. This does not solve the problem. It is simply unacceptable to allow abusive
and overreaching tmch registrations just because the notice can be watered down or improved.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If this is not acceptable, then the only alternative is for someone to essentially reverse engineer the list by trial and error. This can certainly be done on an automated basis. However, neither side would win by this. It would be
a silly waste of time and resources. It would also result in publication of the results. It seems neither side would want such a result. I am sure we can find a compromise.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think the Analysis Group was at least negligent in their duties when they reported the 93% abandonment rate. It was misleading despite the disclaimers attached. Whenever any number is reported, it tends to gain traction and, as a result,
we find ourselves struggling to attach some type of meaning to it. The Analysis report has led to false conclusions and a waste of time. <o:p></o:p></p>
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the reported number by Analysis. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Susan’s last and penultimate paragraphs below put it best. In addition to identifying data be collected in the next round, we could look at the language and display of the current notices to ensure that the notices are designed to achieve
the goal of the claims notice program: to properly inform without intimidating. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">________________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Skype: kjpritz</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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but Analysis Group clearly were not confident that fully addressed the concern:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">"However, due to limitations of the data (discussed in more detail below), our analyses of the data require an assumption that each download is associated with a registration
attempt (and was not downloaded by a registrar for a purpose unrelated to domain name registrations). If this assumption is incorrect, then our results will exaggerate the size of any observable registration-deterrent Claims Service effect."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">"These results should not be relied upon to make policy recommendations. We find that the vast majority of registration attempts are not completed after receiving a Claims
Service notification (94% abandonment rate). This abandonment rate seems quite high, however there are several caveats to this result, which include our inability to determine the abandonment rate that would occur if no Claims Service notifications were sent
and limitations of our data set, which require us to assume that every registrar download from the TMDB represents a registration attempt.54 We therefore cannot determine whether Claims Service notifications are the direct cause for the abandonment rate that
we observe."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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benefit of being an independent third party which ought to have removed some of the confidentiality concerns that we have faced, and should have had the support of whatever ICANN contractual provisions there are requiring co-operation in economic studies.
They still produced a report which repeatedly cites the paucity of data, the resulting reliance on assumptions, and that their “results” were consequently inadequate and should not be relied upon to make policy. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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would not be similarly hampered. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of George Kirikos<br>
Sent: 12 July 2017 21:30<br>
To: <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Inferences (was Re: Mp3, Attendance, AC recording & AC Chat Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Just to followup on my prior email, The Analysis Group *already* adjusted the stats to attempt to take into account the "mining" theory that Jeff spoke about. i.e. the 93.7%
abandonment figure that we've been talking about is a figure obtained *after* making the adjustments! Without the adjustment (which eliminated 62.2% of the observations), the abandonment rate would have been 99%! See:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">""As discussed in Section IV, there are two registrars that averaged downloads of more than 20 trademark strings per download, which is large compared to the average of fewer
than five trademark strings in the downloads of other registrars. We also exclude downloads made by ICANN’s monitoring system. The exclusion of the two registrars does not significantly impact our results. Inclusion of the two registrars shows that 99% of
registrations are abandoned and 0.5% of completed registrations are disputed."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">"[2] A bulk download is defined as a download from the TMCH of multiple strings by the same registrar with exactly the same time stamp. Downloads by two registrars are excluded
from this analysis because of a potentially high prevalence of bulk downloads (98.7% and 81.9% of downloads, respectively) by each of these two registrars. The average size of the “bulk downloads” by these two registrars (approximately 23 and 35 strings, respectively)
is much larger than the average “bulk download” size of other registrars (other registrars in the Claims Service data download 5 strings or less on average).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">This exclusion results in an exclusion of 62.2% of the observations in the original Claims Service data received from IBM after excluding downloads by ICANN's monitoring
system."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> Hi folks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Terri Agnew <<a href="mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">terri.agnew@icann.org</span></a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">>> Jeff Neuman:My belief is that we have a huge rate of people</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">>> abandoning is because (i) registrars were mining the system, (ii)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">>> lesser extent as a result of the claim (either legitimiate or not)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">>> Kathy Kleiman:@Jeff: we have gathered evidence already from</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">>> registries; there is probably more</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> would have had it, to generate their reports), one could filter such</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> their queries across all registrars equally. It would be easy to</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> identify the outliers. Furthermore, registrants would be also focused</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> on a few registrars that permit those bulk lookups, and they wouldn't</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> spread their queries over time equally --- they'd be focused at the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> launch (i.e. the beginning, first few days, etc.) of a TLD.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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