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<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email. The MP3, Adobe Connect recording and Adobe Connect chat below
for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs)<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span>PDP Working Group call held Thursday, 09 August 2017at 17:00 UTC. Attendance of the call is posted on agenda wiki page: </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/aA4hB" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">https://community.icann.org/x/aA4hB</a></p>
<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; line-height: 15.6pt;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">MP3:</span></b><span class="MsoHyperlink" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></span><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-09aug17-en.mp3[mailer.samanage.com]
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<span class="MsoHyperlink" style="color: blue;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: windowtext;">Adobe Connect recording: </span></b></span><a href="https://participate.icann.org/p97fhhslzvg/" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">https://participate.icann.org/p97fhhslzvg/</a></p>
<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; line-height: 15.6pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:</span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group-2Dactivities_calendar&d=DwMF-g&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=VqOOufta7uIGpIGDJ5U1cepLELhCsPPoZZC9osq3Hrk&s=eBrYQigfSiOfET2VcOvNtKoUgJHCm4qXeW7zA-dR-is&e=" style="color: purple;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar</span>[gnso.icann.org]</a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Mailing list archives: </span><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/" style="color: purple;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/</span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Wiki page: </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/aA4hB" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">https://community.icann.org/x/aA4hB</a></p>
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<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Michelle <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Adobe Connect chat transcript for 09 August 2017:</span></u></b></p>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP WG call on Wednesday, 09 August 2017 at 17:00 UTC.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda wiki page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_aA4hB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=cYgtjV4k8YOLUz8vaTYnezwsPPucU6a90NC0CCZ-wus&s=Q1UpilfvBm2l87yoCezrUbhYJ_A3kSF_B_lhozOvY2A&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_aA4hB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=cYgtjV4k8YOLUz8vaTYnezwsPPucU6a90NC0CCZ-wus&s=Q1UpilfvBm2l87yoCezrUbhYJ_A3kSF_B_lhozOvY2A&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Hi folks. On iPad today, as I wait for some couriers, so just a boring black font for me. :-(</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Hello All</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jonathan Frost:Hi Maxim</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Welcome, Maxim.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I suggest we wait 5 minutes more</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Maybe send out a reminder email?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):so number of participants at least bigger than of that 3AM call</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:lol</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:Hi Everyone</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Hey Paul.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:We actually had 20 participants (not counting staff) on the call last week</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:Hi George, how's things in Canada, Autumn/Fall seems to be coming very eary this year - first week in August is it the same in Canada?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:has call started - just hearing periodic beeps</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Things are pretty good. Warm but not hot.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:Thanks Mary</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:Hello from Maine. On Adobe only.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:oops</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:did anyone else lose audio?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I"m on the phone bridge - no</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Audio ok here.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:thanks</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:I lost audio on the phone</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:(I'm on the phone bridge too)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Note that the INTA Survey results have been posted on the WG wiki here: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_0AusAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=cYgtjV4k8YOLUz8vaTYnezwsPPucU6a90NC0CCZ-wus&s=pKKEmVEwBPi79lbNW1rCnnM1csvI6DDh3Hw9WNlPi68&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_0AusAw&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=cYgtjV4k8YOLUz8vaTYnezwsPPucU6a90NC0CCZ-wus&s=pKKEmVEwBPi79lbNW1rCnnM1csvI6DDh3Hw9WNlPi68&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:I lost audio on phone as well - using adobe only now</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:I have no audio on phone and none when I try to activate in Adobe.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:INTA is happy to work with this group to see where the study results can be appropriately applied to Sunrise, Claims and TMCH</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:typist please mute</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:I can hear you, Lori.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:(she might not be able to hear us)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Go ahead, Lori</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:I can't hear anyone. Sorry for the typing</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:yes we can hear her</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Brian Cimbolic:just typing</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I hear Lori</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:i cannot hear Lori anymore on adobe</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott:ok</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Scott Austin:I hear her</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Yes plesae, Lori</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:now i can</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott:yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I hear on Adobe </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott:thanks</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott:mary</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott:thanks lori</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Can ICANN send out a press release, to ensure that public input (and provision of data) is maximized for this work?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:That would help ensure that there's some outreach to those outside the "usual" circles.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:(this is for all the questions, not any specific one)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@J Scott, that is correct - and these sources were suggested by the Sub Team/WOrking Group (i.e. not staff)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):NOTE: regarding 3, Registries provided at least 3 examples (and since there were no letter to RySG/RrSG, should be more)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Given the issues with the most recent SurveyMonkey survey, that might be wise. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:I would share after INTA's experience, that even though we had expert advice, there were still some inefficiencies in the survey. Extensive beta testing is key in my opinion in terms of ferreted out
bias and making sure that the answers are clear</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Will do, J Scott</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Any final survey should be circulated to the main group's mailing list, though, before it goes live, just as a final check.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:+1 Lori</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:+1 George</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Sunrise pricing could also be obtained through registrants/registrars, if registries don't cooperate.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:(albeit, there'd be a markup from the wholesale price)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I am not sure 3 samples will be enough to approximate properly - there are different pricing ideas on the market</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):more than 3</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):+1 Kristine, TM owners pay to Registrars</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Doubtful we'd get the wholesale prices, though.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):some Registries publish prices , some do not</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):and there is not such thing as Wholesale price</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:@Maxim: "wholesale" = price from registry to registrar.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):it is under NDA mostly</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:"retail" = price paid by registrant/markholder to registrar.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:No NDAs by registrants.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Most registrars will probably have a fixed percentage markup for sunrises, so we'd get the appropriate scale.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):and Registries can not say Registrars the price of end-user sale (sometimes under special marketing initiative it can be set, for example particular price for end-users suring the particular
period to promote domains names)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:(i.e. fixed percentage within a registrar; so all sunrise prices at Markmonitor could be compared with each other, or at CSC, etc.; not compared across registrars)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:To Maxim's point, resellers also mark up price.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@George, the registrants are pure 3rd parties for Registries</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:@Greg, you have no basis to assume registrars charge a flat percentage mark up.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):+1 Kristine, sometimes there are special across-TLDs incentives e.t.c.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:The "basis" is that most registrars use the "KISS" principle, keeping pricing models simple.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:the trouble is not all registrars will want to give their mark up. they are likley to view it as confidential, at least insofar as their competitors are concerned. and it may vary from client to client
as well. Maybe not for the retail registrars who publish pricing on their websites but a lot of them didn't participate in sunrise</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:As registrars compete in a fairly transparent market, can we assume that inhibits exorbitant markups by any particular registrar?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I think we need to add a disclaimer "we assume this model to be used, and thus ..."</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:If the retail price of .TLD1 sunrise is twice the retail price of TLD2 sunrise, at a given registrar, it's safe to assume the wholesale costs at TLD1 are higher.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):anyway - 3 samples is not representative enough</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@J Scott, that is what staff is thinking we could approach it </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@George , it is an assumption ... unfortunately marketing guys are extremely inventive and it is reflected in quite complex math equations of pricing</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:We don't need to ask the registrars -- can ask Apple, Dell, Microsoft, etc. (regular users of sunrise periods). They're not bound by confidentiality of what price they paid.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Just lost sound?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:did we lose Mary</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Sound is back.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:@maxim: true, it's an assumption, but it can be validated by looking at users who used MarkMonitor, CSC, etc. (i.e. across registrars, by their registranrs).</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Adobe sound seems to be acting up; suggest people call in to the bridge if you can</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Could we outreach to SO/ACs ?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:really choppy audio</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:audio is not the best today</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Bubbles</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):speed rewind buffer sound</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Sara Bockey (GoDaddy):audio is on fast forward</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jonathan Frost:+1 Kristine</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I hoped for online </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Susan sounds normal.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Please dial into the audio bridge</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:I do talk fast.... :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:but now Susan is fast too....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):timeshifting issues</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Audio bridge is also fast</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:The Buiness Constituency seems to have kept some records of sunrise prices, e.g. see blog post at: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__domainincite.com_18651-2Dare-2Dnew-2Dgtld-2Dregistries-2Dripping-2Doff-2Dbrands-2Dwith-2Dunfair-2Dsunrise-2Dfees&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=cYgtjV4k8YOLUz8vaTYnezwsPPucU6a90NC0CCZ-wus&s=XB-Td4hMCOBH0U0WABHuX_hYb2VS_bSqNJ9i9K4OyMY&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__domainincite.com_18651-2Dare-2Dnew-2Dgtld-2Dregistries-2Dripping-2Doff-2Dbrands-2Dwith-2Dunfair-2Dsunrise-2Dfees&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=cYgtjV4k8YOLUz8vaTYnezwsPPucU6a90NC0CCZ-wus&s=XB-Td4hMCOBH0U0WABHuX_hYb2VS_bSqNJ9i9K4OyMY&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:J Scott shaky sounding too</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Scott Austin:accellerated speech</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Facebook.love for $8,930</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:should we all log out and restart the meeting - this isn't workig very well?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:It is</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Louise Marie Hurel:yes </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:you just cut out again for a second.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:Agree w/ Susan</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:Yes, now ok</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:too fast</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:choppy</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):too fast</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Mary your sound went downhill fast.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:very fast here with pauses</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:no it's not better</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):could we log out , and re-log?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:This is a technical glitch.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:sound getting worse - hard to imagine</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Levy:Speakers are cutting in and out and the audio is sped-up when it returns</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Louise Marie Hurel:No, it is difficult to follow with the audio</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:trying to resolve</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Sound fine here (telephone bridge). Perhaps dial back in, if you're having troubles.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:no its very difficult to follow</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:Yes, sounds like everyone is on amphetamines and then passing out ;-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:"Under the sea..."</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I will try to speak slowly</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kristine Dorrain - Amazon Registry Services:you're cutting out</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:It seems there are audio issues when using the Adobe Connect room today, I am contact IT to look into this ASAP, if you are able to use your phone connection you will receive a better connection
until this is resolved. I apologize for the inconvenience.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):what makes me wonder is that high speed effect needs sound to be pre recorded ... so it could be due to trafic loss and attdmpts of the system to squeese sound into "good quality gaps" of time</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:this stuff is too important to carry on like this</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:I don't have a phone option. Audio very difficult to follow -- doublespeed, then silence</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:On iPad just a constant choppiness.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Scott Austin:+1 Maxim</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I loose most letters in the speach.. we need to speak extremely slowly to compensate the sound effects</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Sorry, Maxim, noted for next time, thank you</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Waiting to be dialed in...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Perhaps pause the call for 5 mins, to let those with audio issues dial in?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:(if it's a mass problem -- audio is fine for me0</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Sara Bockey:no audio after logging back in</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:trying to dial back in - adobe audio in a funk today </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:Audio much better on dial-in. Thanks Michelle DeSmyter.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Audio good on dial-in.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):sound is way better on Skype to toll free +1866-692-5726 (cost 0.00 per minute)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):so it is possible to mute on Adobe and use sound from Skype</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Scott Austin:Comments in article referenced by G. Kirikos comment above worth reviewing for pro and con on premium Surise pricing issue. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:Media useful for exceptions, not rule.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Weren't the business plans of new gTLD applicants public? (might be another source of data)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:I gave up on Adobe audio almost an hour ago.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:I left adobe - on phone and it is ok</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:i.e. what they promised to ICANN, vs. what they delivered.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):skype works </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:sorry</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:I left adobe for the phone</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:but I love you</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:lol</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:Media, however, often leads public perccception so may be useful to gauge current trends.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:I just called in on skype. Adobe audio was useless today </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jonathan Frost:@George: Much of the applications were public, but financial projections were kept confidential.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Sara Bockey:not able to dial in and no audio in AC</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Scott Austin:Reactions to the articles in comments can be of as much value as the original article. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:@Jonathan: maybe they can be aggregated/anonymized, then?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:e.g. average expected number of sunrises was N, average expected price was $X; and compare to our data on actual results.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:(albeit, at retail vs. wholesale)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:we can hear you on the phone</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:you are</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Apologies..., that was me being dropped off the call.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Some of the companies (e.g. Rightside, MMX) have public financial statements, too, which might be a source of data, since they're publicly traded.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:ICANN Monthly Reports</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_registry-2Dreports&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=cYgtjV4k8YOLUz8vaTYnezwsPPucU6a90NC0CCZ-wus&s=OJru4QPqqiJ-5l6cK0oW-sbY2dEY2RV1daxys6k_wsI&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_registry-2Dreports&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=cYgtjV4k8YOLUz8vaTYnezwsPPucU6a90NC0CCZ-wus&s=OJru4QPqqiJ-5l6cK0oW-sbY2dEY2RV1daxys6k_wsI&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Please stand by, we are still having Adobe Connect issues and we do encourage you to dial into the phone bridge to hear the conference if you are continuing to experience audio issues. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:gTLD.link is a forum focused on new gTLDs (I'm not a member of it, but there'd be some info there too, conceivably)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:A search of 'sunrise' has only 36 matches, though: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gtld.link_search-3Fq-3Dsunrise-26searchJSON-3D-257B-2522keywords-2522-253A-2522sunrise-2522-257D&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=cYgtjV4k8YOLUz8vaTYnezwsPPucU6a90NC0CCZ-wus&s=BGxUoxRMjzsi2YVEFhFdMwGjoOowNBDJUcY669SdGPo&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gtld.link_search-3Fq-3Dsunrise-26searchJSON-3D-257B-2522keywords-2522-253A-2522sunrise-2522-257D&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=cYgtjV4k8YOLUz8vaTYnezwsPPucU6a90NC0CCZ-wus&s=BGxUoxRMjzsi2YVEFhFdMwGjoOowNBDJUcY669SdGPo&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:data coming from gTLD.link would need to be treated with caution I think</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:@Paul: yes, it's just one perspective, so should be weighted accordingly.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Scott Austin:But isn't the danger of over reliance on anecdotal evidence that outliers can dictate the rules of the community.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:(question 12 only mentioned DNForum/Namepros, so gTLD.link is just another data point)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:Agree, J Scott.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Anecdotes need to be tested to see if they are edge cases.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@Greg, as I understand Registries were not against providing additional info on their cases</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):just need to know which</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:More work, please! [just kidding]</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:@Greg, how do we test anecdotes?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:they are subjective not quantitative</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I think it was more like - looks like, does not look like</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:J Scott thank you for leading 2 great calls. We got a lot done in the last 2 weeks and it MUCH appreciated</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos 2:Have a nice day, folks! Bye.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):bye all </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Levy:Speak with you all soon!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:BYe all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Susan Payne:+1 Lori, fantastic progress</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> J. Scott:ciao</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:Thanks all, good bye</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Paul Tattersfield:thanks all bye</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Bye all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Salvador Camacho:Bye!</div>
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