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<p>Claudio,</p>
<p>please do not confuse my lack of respect for certain data points
with lack of respect for any members of this group or any person
outside. I am sure this "study" (questionnaire might be a better
word here) was well intentioned, but the quality of the data and
the interpretations that have been derived from it leave much to
be desired. <br>
</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 04.09.2017 um 18:54 schrieb claudio
di gangi:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Volker,</div>
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<div dir="auto">Substance aside, I encourage you to elevate the
tone of your communications on this list.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">The words we choose to convey our thoughts
matter a great deal, let's aim for language that conveys
respect to one another and builds unity.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">Best,</div>
<div dir="auto">Claudio</div>
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<div>On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 5:13 AM Volker Greimann <<a
href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have no
issue with a well-executed study. I do have an issue with a<br>
badly done one that then goes to present its results as
applicable to<br>
the entire market.<br>
<br>
Let us not waste our time with crap data and focus on doing
our work<br>
well instead.<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 01.09.2017 um 22:33 schrieb icannlists:<br>
> I continue to read these statistics lessons from
George, Volker, and Paul K. with some amusement. We are
definitely in "the lady doth protest too much" territory
here.<br>
><br>
> We get it. You don't like the survey or the
information it conveys. It doesn't fit your narrative or
help your goals. But, it's not like our resident
statistical experts have submitted any surveys of their own
- scientifically perfect or otherwise - to back up their
opinions. If the INTA survey conducted by Nielson, as Paul
K. suggests, is worthy of being "laughed out of the room"
where does that leave the personal opinions of those who
didn't bother with producing a survey at all? I suppose
that would be whatever is worse than being laughed out of a
room...<br>
><br>
> So folks, can we move off the unrequested, unhelpful
opinions about statistics (which are interestingly not
backed up by surveys to validate their accuracy which I find
ironic) and get on with dealing with the giant workload
before us? We can't keep wasting time on this circular
stuff. We need to get underway or else risk falling behind
SubPro and get the full ire of the community directed at
us. Thanks so much!<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
> Paul<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>
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On Behalf Of George Kirikos<br>
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 5:44 AM<br>
> To: gnso-rpm-wg <<a
href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Directly from INTA's
website: What the TTAB has to say about sample size<br>
><br>
> I'm sure many folks are familiar with the concept of
"confirmation bias":<br>
><br>
> <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias</a><br>
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> Those who want to give weight to the INTA study,
despite its statistical invalidity, appear to me to be
suffering from that confirmation bias, as it's a study that
happens to confirm or coincide with their prior beliefs.<br>
><br>
> As a group, we need to *overcome* those biases, and
deal with evidence in a neutral, objective and scientific
manner, lest those biases steer us on the wrong course.<br>
><br>
> Sincerely,<br>
><br>
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