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for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs)<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span>PDP Working Group call held Thursday, 28 September 2017at 03:00 UTC. Attendance of the call is posted on agenda wiki page:<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></span><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/o4BEB" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">https://community.icann.org/x/o4BEB</a></p>
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<p style="font-family: -webkit-standard; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><b><u><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Adobe Connect chat transcript for 28 September 2017:</span></u></b></p>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group call on Thursday, 28 September 2017 03:00 UTC. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda wiki page: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_o4BEB&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=M5EItDx65_5oiD9j3S1B9WMz-nj0vxE5Ih2jh-uEjQQ&s=FrASpw23gYSa_L-rkQHceltFWtYGrZahQNeVSjCQQQY&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_o4BEB&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=M5EItDx65_5oiD9j3S1B9WMz-nj0vxE5Ih2jh-uEjQQ&s=FrASpw23gYSa_L-rkQHceltFWtYGrZahQNeVSjCQQQY&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Hi folks.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy Kleiman:Petter - tx for being on so early in the morning your time!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy Kleiman:Hi George and Sara...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Sara Bockey:Hi there.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Welcome Kathy, Sarah, Petter et al.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Hello All</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming:Good morning</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I think we might see more people in 4 minutes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:Hello, night owls and early birds</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Petter Rindforth:always a good tart of the day ;-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Petter Rindforth:..start...</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Levy:Petter, you have my utmost respect!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:Hi all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:Hi</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Justine Chew:Great work, Phil, Mary and all involved re GNSO Council decision on our data request. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming:Question: So, officially, what is the lead time for the PDP and how far do we see stretching ourselves out?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming:as in time wise*</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming:not necessarrily in regards to content</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:I do think there is room to wide the scope of some question that would increase data value gathered</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks. I think Phil did a great job covering it.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:and what is new plan while data being athered - or will WG develop a new approach while data being gathered</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:gathered, that is</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming:Alright, thank you.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Some other data has already been requested though on other questions, e.g. the Top 500 TMCH terms, etc. (from March 2017!), i.e. from The Analysis Group.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming:I just wanted to know when that would occur.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:Thanks Phil, makes sense</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:I missed the first few minutes of the call, what was the final budget figure?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:The request was a minimum of $50k. What we will actually get is unknown.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Is that for "external" spending? Or does it include ICANN "staff time"?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:(i.e. ICANN staff was compiling some stuff)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:Agree with Lori on prioritization </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:We may well need to prioritize, depending on the funds made available.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Colin O'Brien:The low dollar amount is worrying. In my experience surveys can become very expensive.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:@George, my understanding is that 50K is for external consulting only not staff time</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming:Lori, I think you are still on audio</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Thanks, Lori.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:is someone scuba diving?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:lol David</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:its not so much data gathering as analysis in light of data received</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:1) I think we should include this question as part of the survey and outreach we are already doing to the stakeholders</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Kathy Kleiman:Martin: did you want to come online to speak?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:I have several remarks, I will take the mic for some of them. </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:this one is pretty small remark</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:I assume we already have the data (TLD by TLD) on number of sunrise registrations (e.g. by The Analysis Group, and/or the monthly registry reports). Do we have that as a public data set? (e.g. in
a spreadsheet)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:(can then match that up with data on whether there were additional RPMs for that TLD, type, etc.)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):formally to extent that is not breaching RA and RPMs and other Consensus Policies</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):and RSEP</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:This series of questions (#3) underscore importance of professional help</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@David, unfortunately most experts in this field are in this PDP </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:Amr is perfectly capturing the remarks</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:clap clap clap</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:good point @Maxim</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jon Nevett:Again, we are not reviewing the Additional marketplace RPMs -- the second bullet was rejected by the subgroup</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jon Nevett:Bullet 3 again is beyond scope</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jon Nevett:no</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Bullet 3 in the "notes" pod? Or in the top pod?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jon Nevett:notes george</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Maxim: ICANN Compliance does not have power to be the source of the contractually binding opinion</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):RA is a contract and each party see things from their angle</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Registry and ICANN Compliance </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jon Nevett:Thanks Phil -- you said it better than I would have and you didn't wake my wife while saying it!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):too early for me </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:I agree w/@Maxim about ICANN Compliance authority – I assume a professional survey person, if he/she asks ICANN, would ask ‘what in your opinion AFFECTS’ not ‘what in your opinion authorizes’ </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Justine Chew:I agree with Phil. Also, the "acceptability" of additional Marketplace RPMs are commercial innovations not within the remit of this group.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Colin O'Brien:+1 Greg</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:Also +1 @Greg</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Justine Chew:+1 Greg</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:Agree with Greg</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):+1 Greg</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:Support not changing questions without agreement of subteam and subteam leader</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:Lori, I would agree that they should be asked, but the agreement of the WG includes and overrun the will of the subteam. And I say it as a subteam member :-P</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:sub = subordinate</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):if we change list of questions too much, we are at risk of GNSO Council to retract the approval </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:Re-litigatig every question/point of the sub-groups will make this a very long process.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:why? we are making what they asked, to improve them to be as efficient as possible in getting as much relevant data, and relevant means close to reality, non biased, sufficient, etc.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:Utilizing sub-groups is a way of dividing work & assigning expertise.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:Agree with Cyntia.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@Martin, the approval was granted for the set of questions</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):it was not a wildcard</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:we are not erasing the question, we are making them more accurate</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:is good, is in the sense that the GNSO approved them</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:As noted last week, one would want to check the historical rules, too (e.g. using Archive.org), because the currently-posted rules might be different.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Although, registrars probably have them too, if they were used as distribution partners for those additional RPMs.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Question: Providers = Registry Operators?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Question above for Martin. :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:yes</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks, Martin.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:+1 Martin. For question 5, we'd also have the actual registration stats (i.e. in the ICANN monthly reports), to see if that impacted registration volume).</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:Finding registrants for these highly-specific questions may be dependent on registries providing data that is subject to confidentiality claims, right?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@George,it is hypothetical ... even Registrars sometimes do not know what the reason for registration was (or in situation where the Registrant chosed not to be one)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:Cyntia, yes, I agree is not an easy task, I just put forward the idea, if is not feasible, we can drop it, but if it is, maybe we improve it</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Justine Chew:Exactly, Greg is correct. So would be it registrants who have received a TM Claims notice? </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:I just thought of my own portfolio @Martin.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:I thought that TM owners received copies of the claims' notices. I recall receiving them.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):it is hard to reach those comanies which reached the conclusion not to register (they are not in WHOIS)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):We did in Moscow and .xn--80adxhks to extend claims period ... so far two years</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):and going</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):the data is on TLD start info portal</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:@Greg - to your point, how could we get a representative sample of registrants?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:@Cyntia, I doubt there's a way to get a representative sample, without a great deal of planning and effort. More like we'll end up with anecdotes.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Justine Chew:So is the effort worth putting in to get the (possible) result?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Note that the questions regarding advantages/disadvantages and costs associated with ongoing Claims services should already be covered by the TM Claims questions.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:ICANN has surveyed registrants in the past, e.g. see: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_announcement-2D2-2D2016-2D09-2D15-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=M5EItDx65_5oiD9j3S1B9WMz-nj0vxE5Ih2jh-uEjQQ&s=FxTTerV1wD8-wZ3QDS2OU9MXjLHQqlxUU9KjpkjjnVA&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_announcement-2D2-2D2016-2D09-2D15-2Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=M5EItDx65_5oiD9j3S1B9WMz-nj0vxE5Ih2jh-uEjQQ&s=FxTTerV1wD8-wZ3QDS2OU9MXjLHQqlxUU9KjpkjjnVA&e=</a></div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:"Global Registrant Survey Final Phase Results Available"</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:No need to reinvent the wheel.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jon Nevett:where is that question?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:Thx George for identifying that. I'd hope that staff would look into the extent to which that registrant survey produced responses.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:@George, but why do we need anecdotal data? Aren't we looking for representative samples for data integrity?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jon Nevett:I don't think we should name specific companies </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):answer to question 5 is in ICANN Accounting (they charged for each claims registration additional .25 USD)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):for the lsat bit</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:@Cyntia: my link *was* to a representative sample, i.e to counter the "anecdotal". </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:Jon - that Q is on page 2, section III, Question 4</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:I didn't remember it and guess maybe that was rephrased</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:i.e. it was suggested that creating a representative sample of registrants was hard by Greg above. It's already been done before.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:So you want us to engage Nielsen to survey registrants? Is this part of our budgeted deta collection?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Our budget wouldn't cover it....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Note: Asking trademark owners this question was a WG suggestion, not staff. :)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:I think it</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:@Cyntia: No, I'm not suggesting that at all. I'm just countering the suggestion by Greg that creating a representative sample of registrants was difficult, and that one would necessarily end up relying
on anecdotes.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:is the phrasing at issue.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming:In any gTLDs that offer a blocking mechanism?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:@George. Agreed it's not difficult to survey registrants - just expensive & time-consuming.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I think it is related to ROs using such blocking mechanics</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:@George, just because it's been done, doesn't mean it's easy. I'm looking at our budget and approach.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jon Nevett:thx</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:Agree w Phil and Jon</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:@Greg: same could be said about getting a representative sample of TM holders.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:Agree w/ @Phil</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:Also checked @George's link. Very interesting reading.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming 2:You wouldn't. Most Registrars would show the domain as unavailable.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):URS does not work for old TLDs </div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming 2:Unless the query for the domain is recorded</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Justine Chew:I have to drop off now. Cheers, for the good discussions.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael Flemming 2:Thanks, Justine.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:@Maxim--neither does claims notices or blocking services/only for new tlds</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jon Nevett:xxx had a blocking mechanism, so shouldn't be limited to New TLDs</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:As kathy said 2 mins ago, Analysys Group might have info on that.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:* regarding Q5</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):.com is not following RPMs and URS</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:For registration volume, we can see the actual reg volume in the monthly reports.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:i.e. it's public data already (just needs to be compiled)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I was saying only that URS is limited</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):to new gTLDs mostly (and few ccTLDs)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):how do we reach non-registrants (those who decided not to register)?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Given so many registrants of new gTLDs were from China, attention should be paid to ensure any survey of registrants cover China in particular.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:I promise not to make more remarks</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:@Maxim, that is a question we will need to addres. Not least because, the broader we cast the net of potenial respondents, the more expansive and epensive the survey.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:By the way, for staff, <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__club.domain.cn_forum.php&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=M5EItDx65_5oiD9j3S1B9WMz-nj0vxE5Ih2jh-uEjQQ&s=kUODmk07VkFyZLASbyQ-ZSh7zaxl6WdGFW75yworDl8&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__club.domain.cn_forum.php&d=DwIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=M5EItDx65_5oiD9j3S1B9WMz-nj0vxE5Ih2jh-uEjQQ&s=kUODmk07VkFyZLASbyQ-ZSh7zaxl6WdGFW75yworDl8&e=</a> might
be an additional data source for Chinese registrants experiences, on some of the other data collection (i.e. for previous questions). i.e. it's the Chinese equivalent to NamePros.com.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Q2 could be answered only by the relevant party</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):if we ask non relevant parties we just extend unwise spendings</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I suggest we run a poll to understand how many PDP members support these additional side questions</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:By way of context, please note that the budget for data collection isn't that big; so the broader we cast the net, the more pressure we bring to bear on the budget that we have to do the surveys we have
identifed as necessary</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael R Graham:I think the history of the development and approval of these questions answers Maxim's question.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:agree w/Mary and it underscores Lori's earlier point about prioritization</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:@Mary - you should have a bell that rings every time we try to expand the budget. Or maybe a buzzer.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Petter Rindforth:Good point!!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:I just point out what I look is missing, if it is missing for a good reason I am more than happy to agree!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@Michael, I was saying that additional changes to our questions can be done with such limited numbers of participants we see now</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:@Cyntia, I don't think we could take that much buzzing.... :-)</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:It would help to know what the actual experience is when trying to register a "blocked" domain. Is it any different than trying to register an already registered domain?</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael R Graham:@Cyntia +1</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> David McAuley:Interesting call, thanks all, goodbye</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:Good point Greg. That's a question for registrars</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> George Kirikos:Goodnight, folks.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Jon Nevett:thx!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:good night/day to all!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Philip Corwin:Bon Soir</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Michael R Graham:Thanks from the quiet corner</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:I hope it's daytime for someone....</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Mary Wong:Next meeting is next Weds at 1700 UTC</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):bye all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Cyntia King:Night!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:thank you for standing my noisy remarks!</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Martin Silva:by all</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Lori Schulman:bye</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Steve Levy:Bye</div>
<div style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"> Greg Shatan:Night!</div>
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