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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">A long long time ago, Korea had a similarly worded law (that was changed a while back). Essentially, the rule was that if a complainant won a UDRP (or court)
case in Korea, the only remedy was cancellation. Even if the UDRP panel ordered “transfer.” The law was written with KIDRC in mind (.kr) but the wording essentially forbade Korean registrars from transferring the domain name. The ADNDRC was instrumental
in explaining the issue to lawmakers, starting with the judiciary, and getting the law changed so that the law no longer clashes with the UDRP. I don’t recall the exact wording of the law, but it was similar to the wording below. There may be translation
issues, and I’m sure the entire text isn’t provided, but the text below <u>does not
</u>say the UDRP decision is final and no one can bring a de novo claim. The text, as I read it, EITHER says that a registrar shall uphold a decision by either a UDRP panel or a court to cancel a domain name OR that the only remedy is cancellation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I am probably getting in the weeds here, but the point is, we still don’t have any statutes before us that clearly say a UDRP administrative decision is final
and cannot be challenged de novo in a court of competent jurisdiction.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Kristine<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> gnso-rpm-wg [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>socata<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 24, 2017 12:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> George Kirikos <icann@leap.com>; gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Availability of Court for Domain Name owners challenging a URS decision -- false assumption?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Dear George,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">First of all, this rule is come into force in Nov 1, 2017, and the prior<i> China Domain Name Governance Rule
</i>has been terminated according to the article 58 in the new rule.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">According to the prior
<i>China Domain Name Governance Rule</i>, which come into force in 2004, its article 38 do say that if decision made by court is different with the domain name resolution organization, the court's decision should be applied. However, this part is deleted in
the New rule.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">You may refer link hereinafter for the old rule: <a href="http://www.gov.cn/gongbao/content/2005/content_64290.htm">http://www.gov.cn/gongbao/content/2005/content_64290.htm</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span style="color:black">China Domain Name Governance Rule is applied for all TLDs, if you read the full text, you will find the rules provide some significant restrictions for the registries and registrars.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The Google translation for article 43(3) is definitely incorrect. The correct translation should be: if there is a decision made by domain name resolution organization
or court, registrar should cancel the domain name registration. This article also support the understanding that the decision made by domain name resolution organization have equal effect with the court in China.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">However, for the case of canary, I do admit that the domain name is still owned by Lin Zanfu, and I am really curious about the situation. According to my search,
I don't find any appealed suit about domain name dispute in China about this case. I will keep an eye on this case.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">If you guys have any useful information for this two case, please feel free to tell me, I am sincerely interested to figure out what happens. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Ph.d Candidate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Renmin University of China<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span style="color:black"><br>At 2017-11-23 23:30:11, George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com">icann@leap.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:13 AM, socata <<a href="mailto:socata@ruc.edu.cn">socata@ruc.edu.cn</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>> I would like to provide some my information for this issue in China<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>> jurisdiction.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>> According to China Domain Name Governance Rule, the decision made by Domain<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>> Name Dispute Resolution Panel decision is final decision in China.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>> You may see article 42 in China Domain Name Governance Rule for detail<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>> information.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>> Link for China Domain Name Governance Rule:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>> <a href="http://www.miit.gov.cn/n1146295/n1146557/n1146624/c5778555/content.html">http://www.miit.gov.cn/n1146295/n1146557/n1146624/c5778555/content.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>Thanks for your message. Is that for the .cn ccTLD? Or does that apply<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>rule to gTLDs like .com? (the Google Translation is a bit confusing to<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>me)<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>I know that the Canary.com UDRP decision against a Chinese registrant<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>from 4 years ago wasn't final, as the domain name is still owned by<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>that registrant (I believe they appealed in court):<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">><a href="https://www.thedomains.com/2013/10/24/disturbing-12-year-old-canary-com-lost-in-udrp/">https://www.thedomains.com/2013/10/24/disturbing-12-year-old-canary-com-lost-in-udrp/</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">><a href="http://www.adrforum.com/domaindecisions/1515762.htm">http://www.adrforum.com/domaindecisions/1515762.htm</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>I believe the same thing happened for Razer.com in early 2016:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">><a href="https://www.namepros.com/blog/razer-upgrades-from-razerzone-com-to-razer-com-legal-battle-revealed.1050304/">https://www.namepros.com/blog/razer-upgrades-from-razerzone-com-to-razer-com-legal-battle-revealed.1050304/</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>albeit in Hong Kong. Of concern, the original UDRP decision does not<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>appear on the ADNDRC website.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">>George Kirikos<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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