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Interesting post. It seems that the domains only showed up as renewed because of administrative issues, however, based on the end of the article, and were not actually under the control of the original respondent. So the phishing concern seems addressed. <br>
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On Dec 5, 2017, at 3:26 PM, claudio di gangi <<a href="mailto:ipcdigangi@gmail.com">ipcdigangi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>I agree with you about having this question/issue considered by our WG and potentially addressed with policy recommendations.</div>
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<div>I've heard concerns from trademark owners who've had difficulties securing the abusively registered domain that was suspended in the URS procedure after it came up for renewal. For example, t<span style="font-size:12.8px">here are several URS cases (on
the NAF website) that involve alleged phishing activity, where </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">the domain was suspended, and now it appears renewed by the same registrant. </span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">This practice is described in greater detail within this blog article: </span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__domainnamewire.com_2016_11_18_strange-2Dthing-2Dhappening-2Ddomain-2Dnames-2Dsuspended-2Durs_&d=DwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=E-M4OQvQBo8UWqE1LwEiDR3PcWlfM0I-0jiI1c4ous0&m=hS2EgpJtnv5LhkpdHHs27fRGRHqXDOVUwU-hZ6XIofk&s=33Z5dZIyXGIeQCUrWuyAIaTyuZiVp5Z8dvEvsekFUXw&e=" target="_blank" style="font-size:12.8px">https://<wbr>domainnamewire.com/2016/11/18/<wbr>strange-thing-happening-<wbr>domain-names-suspended-urs/</a><span style="font-size:12.8px">,
which states: “The most common thing that happened to these first 50 domains is that they were renewed. Twice. And they still show the original owner who lost the URS in Whois.”</span></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the reminder and apologies for missing that question. We’ll add it to the table.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Friday, December 1, 2017 at 3:04 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Susan Payne <<a href="mailto:susan.payne@valideus.com" target="_blank">susan.payne@valideus.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] [Ext] RE: Action Items from 30 November Working Group Call<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Julie. I may have missed it, but I had asked on a prior call that we add a question regarding whether a losing respondent may renew the domain name at issue at all, for one more year (like the complainant), during the pendency of
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Hi Susan,<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Thanks so much for catching that! I tried saving it again as a PDF, but it still comes out truncated; I’m not sure why. In any case, I’ve uploaded it as a Word document and it looks fine that way.<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">I’ve also attached the file.<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Date:<span class="m_-1564745613160710066apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Friday, December 1, 2017 at 1:35 PM<br>
<b>To:<span class="m_-1564745613160710066apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">julie.hedlund@icann.org</span></a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a>"
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<b>Subject:<span class="m_-1564745613160710066apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[Ext] RE: Action Items from 30 November Working Group Call<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="color:#1f497d">Hi Julie, thanks for these notes from the call. Regarding the revised table – there is a link here (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D58729948&d=DwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=E-M4OQvQBo8UWqE1LwEiDR3PcWlfM0I-0jiI1c4ous0&m=hS2EgpJtnv5LhkpdHHs27fRGRHqXDOVUwU-hZ6XIofk&s=2s5QaDhAGJxw-DpMWopm_2UkDAhm5MPrDGV_W3D0sZQ&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">https://community.icann.org/<wbr>pages/viewpage.action?pageId=<wbr>58729948</span></a>)
to a version of the table of 30 November, however only part of the table is displaying (I tried downloading too and it made no difference). Would you mind re-uploading please – assuming this is the revised table? <span class="m_-1564745613160710066apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b>From:</b><span class="m_-1564745613160710066apple-converted-space"> </span>gnso-rpm-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:#954f72">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</span></a>]<span class="m_-1564745613160710066apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="m_-1564745613160710066apple-converted-space"> </span>[gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items from 30 November Working Group Call<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Suggested Approach from the WG members on the call: To identify topics addressed by the Charter questions and capture high-level questions/data points for each topic. Suggested questions are:<span style="font-size:12.0pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Question 1: Should the ability for defaulting respondents in URS cases to file a reply for an extended period (e.g. up to one year) after the default notice, or even after a default determination is issued (in which
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