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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There is a difference between expectation of confidentiality and a legal basis for confidentiality. My point is, I can’t imagine that a Complainant would be
interested in sharing their complaint with a group containing other trademark attorneys and respondent attorneys. I could be wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Training, ongoing and moving forward, is entirely different from playing Monday morning quarterback. (My apologies for the U.S. reference….)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Paul Keating [mailto:Paul@law.es]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 07, 2018 10:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fossen, Renee; Jonathan_agmon icann; Nahitchevansky, Georges<br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Recordings, Attendance, & AC Chat for Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group call on Thursday, 01 February 2018<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Regarding the confidentiality, there is no provision in the Rules that would form the basis for confidentiality of filings. There is obviously nothing to prevent
a panelist from quoting anything contained in the filings. And, of course there is nothing that prevents the opposing party from publishing any filings they have received. Thus, although they have typically not been published, it would be unusual for the
parties to somehow believe they have some right of confidentiality in documents being submitted.. Nevertheless, I have suggested that disclosure of the underlying filings be gated in terms of access so that they are not needlessly publicized. If you feel
there is some legal basis for asserting confidentiality please share it with us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Regarding NAF’s post WG report interactions with its panelists, that is a matter yet to be determined. WIPO, for example, is very active in promoting continuing
education of panelists. This has never been seen as interference or undermining WIPO’s role as a neutral. And, in any event the result would be an assessment of whether or not, and to what extent, panel decisions reflected the established standards.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">gnso-rpm-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of "Fossen, Renee" <<a href="mailto:rfossen@adrforum.com">rfossen@adrforum.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 4:53 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Jonathan_agmon icann <<a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon.icann@ip-law.legal">jonathan.agmon.icann@ip-law.legal</a>>, Georges Nahitchevansky <<a href="mailto:ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com">ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Recordings, Attendance, & AC Chat for Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group call on Thursday, 01 February 2018<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">As a URS Provider, Forum finds itself in a difficult position with respect to many of the decision review options set forth to date. We are concerned that
the filing parties reasonably expected that their filings would be confidential. We are also concerned that if we intervened with the examiners on behalf of the WG regarding past decisions, or drew conclusions regarding the examiners’ aptitude to decide a
particular case correctly, that we would undermine our role as a neutral administrator in the URS process.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Forum will of course continue to cooperate with the WG, but cautions that any information outside of the decision itself should be gathered in a way that does
not upset the integrity of the URS system.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kind regards,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Renee Fossen</span></b><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Minneapolis, MN 55405</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> Jonathan_agmon icann [<a href="mailto:jonathan.agmon.icann@ip-law.legal">mailto:jonathan.agmon.icann@ip-law.legal</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 06, 2018 7:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nahitchevansky, Georges<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Recordings, Attendance, & AC Chat for Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group call on Thursday, 01 February 2018</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I agree with Georges’ comments and some comments made in the call that qualitative review may not be very constructive. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The cases are determined by panelists from various backgrounds, legal system qualifications, and experience, and trying to second guess why decisions came out the way they do would not in my mind lead to any meaningful
result. As stated in the call some decisions are better reasoned than others and therefore I do agree that if a review is undertaken the review may at best address the minimum requirements of information to be stated in the decisions by Panelists. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 7 Feb 2018, at 7:34 AM, Nahitchevansky, Georges <<a href="mailto:ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com">ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I agree with some of the comments made by Scott and others, but want to add a few additional thoughts. Looking at appeals is not
really going to prove much of anything. It certainly does not tell you whether a UDRP or URS decision was correctly decided. First, the elements for establishing viable UDRP or URS cases are different in many respects from national laws that look at whether
or not a domain name registration or use is infringing, and/or constitutes cybersquatting, unfair competition, defamation or libel etc. The point is that court actions can include many other claims or defenses depending on the jurisdiction you are litigating
in. Second, UDRP and URS cases are streamlined procedures with limited records or evidence. Thus, a case could have been properly decided by a UDRP panelist based on the record presented, but on a full record could be seen otherwise. Sometimes Complainants
or Respondents do a terrible job in laying out their cases and provide little to no evidence to support their contentions. So the fact that a court action appeal resulted in a decision that is different from a UDRP or URS decision does not prove that the
case was wrongly decided in the first instance. Third, you cannot conclude that an appeal is always being filed because there is a viable case. There are ample examples of people filing appeals simply to force a settlement of the matter. For example, the
cost of litigating in the US can be quite high and thus there are many examples of people filing questionable appeals with contingency fee attorneys, not because they legally believe they have a strong case, but believe and hope that the other side will decide
to a pay a settlement amount that is far less than the anticipated litigation costs. There are also many examples of people who have registered domain names using addresses and registrars in jurisdictions where they can file cheap appeals to try to create
problems for the parties who prevailed in the UDRP or URS -- and do so on the basis of securing pretextual flimsy rights in such jurisdictions. Again this is done to try and force a settlement and not because the losing party had a viable case. Consequently,
if a case on appeal settled and something was paid to a Respondent, it does mean anything as to whether or not the UDRP or URS was correctly decided. It may simply mean that the Complainant found it cheaper and more expedient to pay off the Respondent as
a way of avoiding a protracted and potentially costly litigation (i.e. a business decision). Lastly, I'm not sure how all appeals are tracked, but there likely as many post UDRP or URS lawsuits filed by Complainants against Respondents where the Complainant
lost the UDRP or URS. Again this does not mean that the UDRP or URS decisions were incorrect. There are often cases where the UDRP or URS elements might not be established by the Complainant but there might be viable claims for cybersquatting, trademark
infringement, unfair competition or defamation under national laws. Again the UDRP and URS are a streamlined process for a subset of potential claims and there are many cases that fall outside of the scope of what the UDRP or URS are intended for. One good
example, is a case where a respondent initially registered a domain name in good faith, but then only uses it in bad faith to take advantage of another's trademark. Because the UDRP and URS have a conjunctive requirement of bad faith registration and use,
the weight of decisions would rule against the Complainant and in favor of the Respondent. The Complainant might then be able to file a viable ACPA or trademark infringement claim and prevail. In that situation, the UDRP decision would have been correct
and the Court decision would likewise be correct. Similarly, there are many case that involve situations where the identity of the registrant is unknown. This could be because the registrant uses bogus registration information (such as a fake name) or uses
a privacy service that does not lift the privacy shield, etc. This might then result in a stilted record that is put before a panel. In a subsequent court case, there could be a much more robust record to establish a claim. So again you could not draw conclusions
as to whether or not a UDRP or URS was correctly or incorrectly decided.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">In sum, looking at appeals without knowing (i) what evidence was presented on the UDRP or URS levels, (ii) whether the original whois information was accurate,
or (iii) what the motivation for filing the appeal might be, will not be very probative. Similarly relying on blogs that discuss UDRP cases, or reviewing a case decision itself, does not necessarily tell you much if you don't know what was actually filed
and considered by the Panel ruling on the matter. If you are going to get into trying to review the underlying pleadings and in all instances,
<i>a fortiori</i>, the brand owner claims -- both of which I do not support -- then it seems, for full purposes of a review, that you should also want to get full information on the actual parties who registered the domain names to see if they gamed the system
with fake names or privacy shields. You could certainly seek to obtain information on who paid for the registration of the domain names at issue, which might tell you who is really the party behind a registration. Again, I am not in favor of doing any of
these types of reviews, but if there are those who suggest we go down one route, then these other routes should be explored as well as they would certainly have a bearing on cases where Complainants lost because a Respondent cleverly gamed the system.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">As for comments about the number of cases filed or appeals thereof, numbers alone don't say much. If the notion is to increase the number of filings, then perhaps
a way to address that would be to change the standard for a UDRP or URS from bad faith registration and use to bad faith registration or use and/or include trademark infringement as a basis of a claim, perhaps provide more meaningful relief in URS cases --
such as a transfer of the domain name, perhaps better access to accurate Whois information or a workable mechanism to get accurate information on the actual registrant of a domain name.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: gnso-rpm-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of George Kirikos<br>
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 2:37 PM<br>
To: Scott Austin <<a href="mailto:SAustin@vlplawgroup.com">SAustin@vlplawgroup.com</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Recordings, Attendance, & AC Chat for Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group call on Thursday, 01 February 2018</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Hi Scott,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I'm not sure why your browser would give warnings, but I didn't link to any dangerous sites. In your email, the links are mangled. You can see what the original
links were on this mailing list's web archive</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">at:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2018-February/002727.html">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2018-February/002727.html</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">i.e. WIPO, Domain Name Wire blog, archive (dot) org, Lexology, etc.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Contrast those links with the mangled links in your email at:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2018-February/002732.html">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2018-February/002732.html</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">While it may be true that some of these cases lack reasons for the orders, if they're settlements, they're still court orders or decisions (that enabled the registrar
to release the domain name from any litigation hold) and that changed the outcome of the UDRP. The fact that UDRP decisions were overturned, and UDRP complainants agreed to pay damages or costs speaks for itself. Knowing the court case number, anyone could
use PACER or other national court databases to look at the public filings and documents, and infer what the reasons might have been, had the case proceeded, based on the evidence and/or arguments presented.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Sincerely,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">George Kirikos</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Scott Austin <<a href="mailto:SAustin@vlplawgroup.com">SAustin@vlplawgroup.com</a>> wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> George:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Some of the links you provided raised safety concerns on my browser so I did not review every link, but for each case for which you provided alternate links
I was able to get at least the domain press version. It appears all but the last are stipulated settlements with no court opinion or analysis of claims or any discussion of a legal basis for overriding the underlying UDRP result. To echo an earlier post, it
is questionable what, if anything, can be drawn from the court sanctioned settlements as the defendants in each case might have just lacked the resources or resolve to defend their UDRP success in an action in US federal court. The same would apply to the
default judgment you obtained in Canada for <<a href="http://pupa.com">pupa.com</a>> which WIPO did post. These cases show no court analysis questioning the efficacy of the UDRP.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> The 4th entry on your list is interesting but may be very limited to its facts, especially as the Hogan Lovells analysis rightly points out, after the French
district court agreed with the UDRP result the French appellate court considered territoriality in an infringement action and relied upon the related website's territoriality carve out (tabs for only non-EU countries) to deny trademark infringement, consistent
with French precedent, even in the presence of use of a mark in a .com global gTLD domain name. As HL rightly pointed out, "the assessment of trademark infringement is intrinsically different from the assessment conducted under the UDRP."</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Best regards,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Scott</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> -----Original Message-----</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> From: gnso-rpm-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> George Kirikos</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 9:02 AM</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> To:
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Recordings, Attendance, & AC Chat for
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> call on Thursday, 01 February 2018</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> P.S. While I have Brian's attention, I'd like to note that I've</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> **repeatedly** brought to WIPO's attention various court appeals of UDRP decisions, yet they they never get posted to WIPO's page at:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>
<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domai">
https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domai</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> ns/challenged/&c=E,1,PoV0aLE1t8_PgbqcdiLxKL0tvAU2CgEatRUI6TpbCcvpqvF8g</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> CisD8w8iAijKAMyLx4MD3KyA6TKC1n4C9Gd5cfMcmRlqgOfX8tW9q1c0w,,&typo=1</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> I understand that others have attempted to also get cases added to
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> that list, without success. Thus, perhaps we have a situation of low</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> *reported* appeals, because of missing data with regards to court actions.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Here are 4 court cases that I brought to WIPO's attention already:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> 1.
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<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://domainnamewire.com/2016/0">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> 7/21/mike-mann-overturns-udrp-decision-court/&c=E,1,a8MkHb9J1psxxTor1h</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> 2.
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<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://AustinPain.com&c=E,1,m8l">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Jn4c5bTXbrCfEi56r67BpoMX9iJJKMbhjlb0V-x4-EAvtcbbnL83_sEH8NvVEDAVRSaehn</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="http://ia601008.us.archive.org/18/items/gov.uscourts.cod.147273/gov.us">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> 4.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Perhaps similar cases exist for the URS (although, less likely, given that new gTLD domains tend to be worth far less than .com domain names, and thus it makes
less economic sense to invest money in legal fees to defend them).</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Let's check back at:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> and see if those 4 cases above get added.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> Sincerely,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> George Kirikos</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> 416-588-0269</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:39 AM, George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com">icann@leap.com</a>> wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> Well said, Rebecca.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> Furthermore, if a low level of appeals is an appropriate metric, then
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> I would think that the low overall usage rate of the entire URS
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> procedure, relative to the number of domain names registered, should
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> also be an appropriate metric. The same would apply to the very low
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> sunrise usage. That would support the elimination of the sunrise and
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> URS procedures, given their low adoption.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> The fact that just 33 survey responses in the INTA survey were
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> considered by some here to be very powerful evidence (LOL!) speaks
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> for itself.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> Unlike those 33 survey responses which purported to be statistically
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> representative of all TM holders worldwide and valid, we can review
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> the entire universe of URS decisions (thus it's no longer a *sample*
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> of a larger population, where getting a reliable sample might be
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> hard; it's the *entire* population being studied).</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> Sincerely,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> George Kirikos</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> 416-588-0269</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>
<a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://www.leap.com/&c=E,1,Nx2_">https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://www.leap.com/&c=E,1,Nx2_</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> b</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> 0</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:26 AM, Tushnet, Rebecca
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>> <<a href="mailto:rtushnet@law.harvard.edu">rtushnet@law.harvard.edu</a>> wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> I'd like to reiterate to the mailing list that "subjective" is often
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> being used in an undefined and I think unjustified way. As was
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> pointed out on the call, there are plenty of qualitative inquiries
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> on which we can expect agreement and which shouldn't be deemed
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> "subjective" by any standard: did the panelist identify the domain
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> name at issue? Did the panelist identify the abusive use?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Aggregated, these individual observations provide valuable
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> information about the transparency and functioning of the process as a whole.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> In general, many in this group don't trust the average registrant
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> involved in a dispute, so it's not clear to me why their appeals, or
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> lack thereof, would guide whether we think the process is working.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Especially when there are a lot of defaults, the appeal rate doesn't
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> indicate much--similar to debt collection against poor people in the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> US, where there are lots of defaults but when individual claims are examined they often don't hold up.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> I expect that the rate of valid claims in the URS is much higher
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> than the rate of valid claims in US debt collection cases, but
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> that's just an expectation in advance of a lot of data. Relatedly,
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> the appealed cases are ones where the process is most likely to work
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> as intended, because the parties join the issues. But again, that's
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> an expectation, and should be examined.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Rebecca Tushnet</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Frank Stanton Professor of First Amendment Law, Harvard Law School</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> 703 593 6759</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> ________________________________</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> From: gnso-rpm-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> BECKHAM, Brian <<a href="mailto:brian.beckham@wipo.int">brian.beckham@wipo.int</a>></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 6:04:27 AM</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> To: Julie Bisland;
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Cc:
<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Recordings, Attendance, & AC Chat for
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> call on Thursday,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> 01 February 2018</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Thanks Terri, Julie,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Having listened to the call recording, it is plain to see there is
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> strong (and well-reasoned) disagreement on whether to proceed with a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> “subjective and qualitative review” of URS decisions with respect to
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> the standard of evidence.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Given this, and perhaps as a start, we can look to see the number of
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> cases which have been appealed -- whether on the merits or following
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> a default -- to see if registrants themselves believe the standard is being misapplied.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> A statistically low number of appeals would suggest the answer may be “no”.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> If on the other hand, there is a significant instance of appeals,
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> that may merit the type of “review” proposed by some WG members.
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> For that event, perhaps the WG should already agree to avoid an
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> approach that would risk re-litigating the decisions themselves;
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> instead, the WG could agree to only review select URS decisions with
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> a view to possible “improvements” going forward (e.g., as I believe
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Jeff Neuman proposed, suggesting that decisions should contain some minimal reasoning/elements).</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Brian</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> From: gnso-rpm-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Of Julie Bisland</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 2:24 PM</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> To:
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Cc:
<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Subject: [gnso-rpm-wg] Recordings, Attendance, & AC Chat for Review
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group call on
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Thursday, 01 February 2018</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Dear all,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>></span><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Please find the attendance and AC Chat transcript of the call
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> attached to this email. The MP3 and Adobe Connect recording are
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP
</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Working Group call held Thursday, 01 February 2018 at 04:00 UTC.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Attendance and recordings of the call is posted on agenda wiki page:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/uAxyB">https://community.icann.org/x/uAxyB</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> MP3:
<a href="https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-01feb18-en.mp3">https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-01feb18-en.mp3</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Adobe Connect recording:
<a href="https://participate.icann.org/p6mww2tis6b/">https://participate.icann.org/p6mww2tis6b/</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> GNSO Master Calendar page:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar">https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Mailing list archives:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Main wiki page for the working group:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/wCWAAw">https://community.icann.org/x/wCWAAw</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Thank you.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Kind regards,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> Terri</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> _______________________________________________</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>> gnso-rpm-wg mailing list</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">>>>
<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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