<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Thanks Kathy, Good session. The subteam's work shall continue.....</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline">Regards</div>,<br><br>Justine Chew <br>-----</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 March 2018 at 21:59, Kathy Kleiman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>All, it is very hard to participate remotely. I have done it many
times, and it is beyond frustrating. Let's try to understand,
please. I thank Claudio, George and Justin for participating
remotely... <br>
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<p>Best, Kathy<br>
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<div class="m_-2115513757237040676moz-cite-prefix">On 3/15/2018 9:58 AM, Nahitchevansky,
Georges wrote:<br>
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<div id="m_-2115513757237040676x_sent"><b>Sent:</b> March 15, 2018 9:48 AM</div>
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[gnso-rpm-wg] RPM March 15 session - questions
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<div class="m_-2115513757237040676PlainText">These *are* questions about their
practices, namely how they *differ*<br>
from the practices in the consumer arbitration business
which they<br>
left, after the Minnesota Attorney General lawsuit, etc.
regarding<br>
alleged abuses in those practices.<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
<br>
George Kirikos<br>
416-588-0269<br>
<a href="http://www.leap.com/" target="_blank">http://www.leap.com/</a><br>
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On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Susan Payne
<a class="m_-2115513757237040676moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:susan.payne@valideus.com" target="_blank"><susan.payne@valideus.com></a> wrote:<br>
> Actually I think we should take the opportunity of
having the providers with us (whether in person or by phone)
to get as much information about their processes) That is
what they were asked to prepare for and they have clearly
spent time doing so. It is very discourteous to MSFD and
ADNDC to curtail their time in order to direct questions to
Forum which are not directly related to what the three
providers were asked to present on. And indeed discourteous
to the WG members who would like to hear from them.<br>
><br>
> I say that not because I want to shield Forum - in fact
I suspect Renee would appreciate the opportunity to put this
long past history to bed - but because this is clearly
something which can be done as a follow up and it is not
directly within the scope of the purpose of this meeting
with all three providers.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Susan Payne<br>
> Head of Legal Policy | Valideus Ltd<br>
> 28-30 Little Russell Street<br>
> London, WC1A 2HN, United Kingdom<br>
><br>
> E: <a class="m_-2115513757237040676moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:susan.payne@valideus.com" target="_blank">susan.payne@valideus.com</a><br>
> D: <a href="tel:+44%2020%207421%208255" value="+442074218255" target="_blank">+44 20 7421 8255</a><br>
> T: <a href="tel:+44%2020%207421%208299" value="+442074218299" target="_blank">+44 20 7421 8299</a><br>
> M: <a href="tel:+44%207971%20661175" value="+447971661175" target="_blank">+44 7971 661175</a><br>
><br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: gnso-rpm-wg [<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman<br>
> Sent: 15 March 2018 09:24<br>
> To: <a class="m_-2115513757237040676moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] RPM March 15 session -
questions from George Kirikos<br>
><br>
> Hi George, this is going to be a "last 10 minute"
question. That's the space reserved for additional
questions.<br>
><br>
> Best, Kathy<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 3/15/2018 8:42 AM, George Kirikos wrote:<br>
>> [with the Adobe Connect down, it seems remote
participants can only<br>
>> ask questions via email]<br>
>><br>
>> For NAF:<br>
>><br>
>> According to:<br>
>><br>
>> [A]<br>
>> <a href="https://fedsoc.org/commentary/publications/national-arbitration-forum-" target="_blank">https://fedsoc.org/commentary/<wbr>publications/national-<wbr>arbitration-forum-</a><br>
>> settlement-with-minnesota-<wbr>attorney-general<br>
>><br>
>> "On July 20, 2009, Minnesota Attorney General Lori
Swanson announced<br>
>> that the country’s largest arbitrator of
credit-card and<br>
>> consumer-collection disputes would no longer handle
consumer<br>
>> arbitrations.<br>
>><br>
>> The National Arbitration Forum’s decision to end
its<br>
>> consumer-arbitration business resulted from a
settlement it reached<br>
>> with the State of Minnesota less than a week after
Attorney General<br>
>> Swanson sued the company in Ramsey County,
Minnesota, accusing the<br>
>> company of violating Minnesota’s consumer-fraud,<br>
>> deceptive-trade-practices, and false-advertising
statutes."<br>
>><br>
>> [B]<br>
>> <a href="https://www.creditcards.com/credit-card-news/minnesota-attorney-genera" target="_blank">https://www.creditcards.com/<wbr>credit-card-news/minnesota-<wbr>attorney-genera</a><br>
>> l-lawsuit-national-<wbr>arbitration-forum-1282.php<br>
>><br>
>> "The lawsuit claims the NAF, the largest
arbitration company in the<br>
>> United States, violates state consumer fraud and
deceptive trade laws<br>
>> by hiding its financial ties to collection agencies
and credit card<br>
>> companies. The lawsuit also claims the company
violates false<br>
>> advertising laws by misrepresenting themselves as a
neutral<br>
>> organization. "<br>
>><br>
>> My questions are: (for NAF)<br>
>><br>
>> (1) In light of [A], how do NAF's business
practices in handling<br>
>> domain name disputes differ from those in the
consumer-arbitration<br>
>> business which it left, and how can domain name
registrants be<br>
>> confident that the same abuses which were alleged
in consumer<br>
>> arbitrations are not present in its domain name
dispute business?<br>
>><br>
>> (2) In light of [B], who are the beneficial owners
of NAF, and do they<br>
>> have any times to the trademark industry, law
firms, or anyone else<br>
>> that might affect its neutrality? In other words,
what is the<br>
>> "Statement of Interest" (SOI) for NAF itself as an
organization?<br>
>><br>
>> Sincerely,<br>
>><br>
>> George Kirikos<br>
>> 416-588-0269<br>
>> <a href="http://www.leap.com/" target="_blank">http://www.leap.com/</a><br>
>><br>
>> P.S. Further background info at:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://library.nclc.org/sites/default/files/Arb10_Appx_O-1.pdf" target="_blank">https://library.nclc.org/<wbr>sites/default/files/Arb10_<wbr>Appx_O-1.pdf</a><br>
>> <a href="https://www.citizen.org/sites/default/files/arbitrationtrap.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.citizen.org/sites/<wbr>default/files/arbitrationtrap.<wbr>pdf</a><br>
>> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_%28alternative_dispute_resolution" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Forum_(alternative_dispute_<wbr>resolution</a>)<br>
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