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<div dir="ltr">Martin,
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<div dir="ltr">I could be wrong but I’m not sure I agree on No 4.
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<div dir="ltr">Having also just looked at the GNSO motion and charter, I also think No 1 is an assumption but not a mandate.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">(There is moreover still outstanding work on the TMCH-related RPMs and we have yet to actually conclude anything but the PDDRP.)</div>
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<div class="null" dir="auto">On 18 April 2018 at 18:50:55 CEST, Martin Pablo Silva Valent <mpsilvavalent@gmail.com> wrote:<br class="null">
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<div dir="auto" class="null">1) I oposse to the proposal. I think we have a mandate by the council to finish URS for the new gTLDs round.</div>
<div dir="auto" class="null">2) URS shares a lot of things with UDRP, but as mechanisms they have to be analyzed separately, even if we want to apply one finding to the other that I analogy has to be reviewed.</div>
<div dir="auto" class="null">3) UDRP will take a long time of work and consensus, research,etc. Letting the URS as it is for that long with no review sounds too much.</div>
<div dir="auto" class="null">4) We are not that far from ending URS compared to the actual times of the new rounds.</div>
<div dir="auto" class="null">5) about the new one and only neutral chair, I also oppose to the proposal, the amount of work in the UDRP needa more than one hand, and in any case, chair have to be neutral, regardless of their personal position. By having three
or more chairs they can share workload and achieve a natural balance on the chairing neutrality. We are not in the case where chairs take turn to impose their views. </div>
<div dir="auto" class="null">6)the talks in PR on the new PDP process (3.0) and how to improve it, like changes in how we chart working groups, is something to debate for future PDPs, and despite the changes we do to improve our work, is important to understand
that difference. What the council was talking about is a general debate on PDPs, using actual one to scope ideas, but not to change them from one day to another.</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="null">Cheers,</div>
<div dir="auto" class="null">Martín Silva</div>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;"><span class="null">Speaking personally, I would hope and expect that if the WG reaches consensus on any recommend changes to the TMCH, Claims Notice, and Sunrise Registrations that we would issue a Final Report at the conclusion
of Phase One – noting that it is the WG, not the co-chairs, who will either reach consensus or not. That would permit any such changes to be in place for the next round of new gTLDs.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></span></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;"><span class="null">I did not mention URS in the preceding paragraph because we have an ongoing dialogue on that.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></span></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;"><b class="null">From:</b> gnso-rpm-wg [mailto:<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" class="null">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b class="null">On Behalf Of </b>claudio di gangi<br class="null">
<b class="null">Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 17, 2018 2:53 PM<br class="null">
<b class="null">To:</b> Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" class="null">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br class="null">
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<b class="null">Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Proposal to Shift URS review to Phase II<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">Thank you, very helpful.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">I think flexibility is a good thing to have, especially in the fluid environment in which we operate.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" class="null">mary.wong@icann.org</a>> wrote:<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">The staff understanding of the text for those parts of the Charter that you highlighted is that it was intended to provide the Working Group and GNSO Council with as much flexibility as possible, while still staying within
the GNSO’s operating rules and the requirements of the PDP Manual. <u class="null">
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">Basically, having the Charter state expressly that an Initial Report is required at the end of Phase One makes it clear that there must be a specific deliverable and it must be published for public comment. Given, however,
that at the outset of a PDP such as this one (i.e. conducted in two phases) the various outcomes or recommendations (if any) that may be agreed on by the Working Group at the end of this Phase One cannot possibly be known, it was considered appropriate to
have the language note that <b class="null"><i class="null">“at a minimum”</i></b> (emphasis added) the group’s progress is described, with any preliminary recommendations also reported. For example, it is possible that the Working Group may develop consensus
recommendations for new or modified Consensus Policies around any of the Phase One RPMs – this will allow the Working Group to then develop a Final Report (per the PDP Manual) just for these specific Phase One recommendations. Alternatively, the Working Group
could reach a point where it believes its work and progress will benefit from either community input on potential (rather than agreed) recommendations, or from GNSO Council guidance as to whether to proceed to work on specific recommendations that may impact
work in Phase Two, or both – in this scenario, an Initial Report seeking that type of input may be appropriate, without there being any specific consensus policy recommendations. The Working Group could also decide to recommend postponing implementation of,
or revisiting certain, Phase One recommendations pending additional research or work in Phase Two, as another example.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">Building in as much flexibility as possible therefore means that multiple potential outcomes are not prematurely curtailed, even before the PDP has kicked off. As phrased, the Charter certainly allows the Working Group to
decide, based on the contents of its Initial Report and consequent public comment, that certain policy recommendations are ready for approval by the GNSO Council – in this scenario, the Charter does not preclude the group from then working on a Final Report
in accordance with the steps and requirements of the PDP Manual, to be presented to the Council for its vote and action at the end of Phase One.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">We hope this helps – please let staff know if there are additional questions or if we can clarify anything further.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">Cheers<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black" class="null">gnso-rpm-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" class="null">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of claudio di gangi <<a href="mailto:ipcdigangi@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" class="null">ipcdigangi@gmail.com</a>><br class="null">
<b class="null">Date: </b>Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 12:48<br class="null">
<b class="null">To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gmlevine@researchtheworld.com" rel="noreferrer" class="null">gmlevine@researchtheworld.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:gmlevine@researchtheworld.com" rel="noreferrer" class="null">gmlevine@researchtheworld.com</a>><br class="null">
<b class="null">Cc: </b>"J. Scott Evans via gnso-rpm-wg" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" class="null">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br class="null">
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">Quick question: I recently reviewed the operative text in our Charter (copied below) and it's not clear to me whether our Initial Report, which will be produced at the conclusion of Phase I activity, is intended to include
policy recommendations for GNSO Council/Board approval? <u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">The Charter states that a Final Report will be produced at the end of Phase II, which will be sent to the GNSO Council "for its consideration and further action". <u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">However, the same language is not used in the section on the Initial Report, which the Charter states: "shall outline the Working Group’s progress and any preliminary recommendations it may have developed with regard to
its work in Phase One. The first Initial Report shall also highlight any relevant findings, information or issues that may have emerged during Phase One and any issues or recommendations that the Group believes should be considered by the PDP Working Group
on New gTLD Subsequent Procedures, and/or that the Working Group considers relevant to its work in Phase Two."<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">I also looked at the GNSO's "PDP Manual", and the "WG Guidelines" document, which indicate the Final Report is the mechanism through which policy recommendations are delivered to the Council, see:
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_sites_default_files_filefield-5F48599_annex-2D2-2Dpdp-2Dmanual-2D16feb16-2Den.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=bOnsvokUfQPwBI3HtclCjiE-bJGMYN9TR_SvqGIcd6Y&s=RnOXmJJVjZsnSKXyvZTAOuZgVHiLar6a61gljWbBFTM&e=" rel="noreferrer" target="_BLANK" class="null">
https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/filefield_48599/annex-2-pdp-manual-16feb16-en.pdf[gnso.icann.org]</a> at page 7.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">At your convenience, can the Co-Chairs and/or staff please provide feedback or clarification on this point?<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">Best regards, <u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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be put out for public comment and also inform the GNSO Council about the progress of the Working Group. At a minimum, the Report shall outline the Working Group’s progress and any preliminary recommendations it may have developed with regard to its work in
Phase One. The first Initial Report shall also highlight any relevant findings, information or issues that may have emerged during Phase One<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">I agree with Jon to the extent that “[i]f there are issues with the functioning of the current URS that we could dix now, why not try?” The number of URS complaints has been going down from the high in 2016 (Forum database).
So far in 2018, I see only 5 decisions (4 suspended, 1 denied) (Forum database).
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<b class="null">On Behalf Of </b>Jon Nevett<br class="null">
<b class="null">Sent:</b> Monday, April 16, 2018 11:02 AM<br class="null">
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">Sure Brian. <u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">People use the terms differently, so understand the confusion. When we drafted the URS recommendation in the IRT and the STI, we used the same "standard" as the UDRP. In other words, the elements that a complainant needs
to prove to win at a URS are the exact same as with a UDRP (i.e. bad faith registration, etc.). The difference between the two systems is the "burden of proof" -- how confident the panelist is in the complainant's evidence. In the US, the burden of proof
for criminal cases is beyond a reasonable doubt, but only more likely than not (51%) in most civil cases. A clear and convincing burden used by the URS is in between. We wanted the URS to be used for slam dunk cases, but didn't want the burden as high as
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">My question below was whether it was worth trying to find a middle ground on the URS review by leaving the substance of the URS standard (and even the burden of proof) to the UDRP review, but continue the work on the procedural
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class="null">Some folks might see “standard of review” and “burden of proof” as somewhat synonymous, in which case as you rightly point out the URS applies a
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<b class="null">On Behalf Of </b>Jon Nevett<br class="null">
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<b class="null">Cc:</b> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" class="null"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif" class="null">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif" class="null"><br class="null">
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We could wait on reviewing the URS standard of review and everything that goes with that, as that work will mirror the work that will need to be completed during the UDRP review. We could continue to review the facets of the URS that differ from the UDRP
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Paul Tattersfield <<a href="mailto:gpmgroup@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" class="null"><span style="color:purple" class="null">gpmgroup@gmail.com</span></a>> wrote:<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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<p class="null" style="margin: 0px;">In our meeting in San Juan, Puerto Rico, I raised the issue of moving the work set forth in this Working Group’s charter relating to the URS to Phase II. The Chairs asked that I put something in writing detailing the specific
recommendation and reasoning, which I present below and have also attached hereto in a Word document for your review and consideration.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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1.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>On 15 December 2011, the GNSO Council requested that eighteen (18) months after the launch of the New gTLD Program ICANN staff prepare and publish an Issue Report on the state
of all rights protection mechanisms implemented for both existing and new gTLDs, including but not limited to the UDRP and URS. The Council subsequently agreed to extend the timeline for a report by a further six (6) months.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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2.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>On 9 October 2015, a Preliminary Issues Report was published discussing the scope of this potential PDP and outlining three possible options for moving forward. The third option
ultimately was elected at that time:<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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The “third option would be to conduct a policy review of all the RPMs in two phases, with the initial phase being a review only of the RPMs developed for the New gTLD Program. . . . The second, subsequent phase of work would be a review of the UDRP, based on
the concerns specific to its scope that were raised in the 2011 GNSO Issue Report and any additional relevant topics derived from the first phase of work concerning the RPMs developed for the New gTLD Program.” <u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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3.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>On 15 March 2016, the two phase approach was approved in the Charter for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group (“RPM Working Group”).
Phase One was to focus on a review of all the RPMs that were developed for the New gTLD Program, and Phase Two will focus on a review of the UDRP.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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4.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>The Objective & Goals in the PDP’s Charter were to examine (i) the RPMs effectiveness, (ii) whether the RPMs collectively fulfil their purposes, and (iii) whether additional
policy specific recommendations are needed, including to clarify and unify the policy goals. RPM Working Group Charter, at p. 3. The Objectives & Goals in the PDP’s Charter were broadly defined: <u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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“In addition to an assessment of the effectiveness of each RPM, the PDP Working Group is expected to consider, at the appropriate stage of its work, the overarching issue as to whether or not all the RPMs collectively fulfill the purposes for which they were
created, or whether additional policy recommendations are needed, including to clarify and unify the policy goals. If such additional policy recommendations are needed, the Working Group is expected to develop recommendations to address the specific issues
identified. The Working Group is also directed to bear in mind that a fundamental underlying intention of conducting a review of all RPMs in all gTLDs is to create a framework for consistent and uniform reviews of these mechanisms in the future.”<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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5.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>However, the RPM Working Group Charter also contains a lengthy attachment entitled “LIST OF POTENTIAL ISSUES FOR CONSIDERATION IN THIS PDP” This “list was derived from various
community suggestions in different forums, they are not listed in any particular order of importance nor has staff attempted to analyze the merits, relevance or significance of each issue”. This list contains topics that are out of scope when compared with
the Objectives and Goals, including:<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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1.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Are generic dictionary words being adequately protected so that they are available for all to use as allowed under their national laws and international treaties? E.g. sun, window<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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2.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Should monetary damages be awarded?<span class="null"> </span><u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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3.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Are last names and geographic places adequately protected so that they are available for all to use as allowed under their national laws, e.g, Smith, McDonald, Capitol Hill Cafe,
Old Town Deli?<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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4.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Should injunctive relief be available?<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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5.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Now that Reverse Domain Name Hijacking is a regular finding of UDRP panels, indicating that domain name registrants are being abused by complaints brought against them in the
UDRP process, what penalties and sanctions should be imposed on Complainants found to be reverse domain name hijackers? How can those penalties and sanctions be aligned so as to be fair, as compared to the loss of a domain name taken from a registrant found
to be a “cybersquatter”?<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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6.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Issues from this list and other new out of scope issues, complaints and modifications are causing the work of the RPM Working Group to slow and are polarizing the members; thus,
harming the ability to achieve consensus in the Working Group. As recommend by the PDP breakout group and discussed by the Community in attendance at the Sunday gNSO Working Session in San Juan, it would be particularly useful if working group charters would:<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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1.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Define clearly what success for the proposed working group ”should look like”. (K. Kleiman reporting on breakout session, Transcript ICANN61 San Juan GNSO Working Session Part
2 Sunday, 11 March 2018 at 10:30 AS (“Transcript”) at p. 5).<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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2.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Define topics or issues that must be addressed, may be addressed and may not be addressed. (Transcript at p. 4).<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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3.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Have “more defined issues, [be] more bounded, more limited.” (Transcript at p. 5).<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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4.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Have a narrower scope and be broken up into separate projects. (Transcript at p. 5).<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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5.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Having a charter drafting team that “that are experts, and that might mean a legal expert, but we should also have people that have experience, practical experience.” (S. DelBianco
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7.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>The Trademark Clearinghouse, Sunrise and Trademark Claims Notices are RPMs relating to the registration process of domain names in the new gTLDs. The URS is more akin to the
UDRP, and like the UDRP is a mandatory dispute resolution proceeding to recover a domain name that has been clearly registered in bad faith. Since the URS is intended to be complementary of the UDRP and will have similar issues it would be more efficient to
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8.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>With respect to the URS and UDRP, The European Parliament, the Council of the European Union, and the European Commission have enacted a new data privacy regulation in 2016 entitled
the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) that will likely adversely impact the ability of the URS and UDRP to function as these policies are currently implemented. The new regulation is scheduled to take effect on May 25, 2018. Among other ways, GDRP
may adversely impact the URS and the UDRP by:<span class="null"> </span><u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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1.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Possibility that Providers cannot serve the UDRP/URS Complaint if an email address cannot be obtained.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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1.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Possibility that the URS provider cannot translate the notice of URS complaint into the predominant language used in the Registrant’s country or territory.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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2.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Possibility that URS complainants cannot know the language of a possible response.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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3.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Possibility that URS complainants do not know whether the URS complaint was translated into the correct language(s) and that proceedings were administered correctly.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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1.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Cannot argue that the registrant is not commonly known by the Domain Name at issue.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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2.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Cannot determine if the registrant has been authorized by the Trademark holder.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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3.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Cannot determine if the registrant is an authorized reseller of the Trademark holder’s product.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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4.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Cannot determine on what date the domain name was “registered” by the current domain name holder if it was transferred to this current domain name holder. (requires being able
to see the WhoIs history). This could prevent baseless claims from being filed.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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1.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Cannot determine if registrant has engaged in a pattern of bad faith registrations. Rule 4(b)(ii).<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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2.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Cannot determine if registrant has been found to engage other unlawful actions, such as malware, phishing or scams.<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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3.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Cannot determine if the registrant is in a particular geographic region to be better assess the possibility of legitimate co-existence (thus possibly even foregoing the filing
of a case, and response, in the first place).<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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4.<span style="font-size:7.0pt" class="null"> <span class="null"> </span></span>Cannot determine if the registrant is technically a “competitor” that has registered the Domain Name for the purpose of disrupting the business of the Complainant. Rule 4(b)(iii).<u class="null"></u><u class="null"></u></p>
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