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<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>Perhaps Greg or Staff could post the questions that Greg has
raised as an issue in the Practitioners questionnaire (since they
are not attached here)? It is of course important to consider the
Subteam review, but we also brought these questions to the full WG
for a reason - to request input.</p>
<p>I don't remember who proposed the Examiner questions, but perhaps
they could go offline with the Practitioners Subteam to work out a
variation that would be acceptable to everyone. Staff, do you
remember?<br>
</p>
<p>I am sure we can work this out with a little discussion... <br>
</p>
<p>Best regards, Kathy<br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/2/2018 1:04 AM, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">All,</div>
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have significant objections to the questions to Examiners
that were tacked on to the end of the Practitioners
questionnaire at the 11th hour. Apologies for not focusing
on this before now. I don't believe these have really been
properly reviewed or discussed.</div>
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style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I
believe these questions are inappropriate in a poll of
practitioners, as these are questions directed to
"panelists." (The proper term is Examiner....) It feels
like a "bait and switch" tactic. If we are going to survey
Examiners, let's survey Examiners -- not ambush
practitioners. On that basis alone, we should eliminate
these questions.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I
am also troubled by the questions themselves. Singling out
these questions, out of all that we might ask Examiners,
seems vaguely accusatory. </div>
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style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The
basis for these questions is questionable. I've reviewed
the URS Procedures and Rules, and none of these questions
comes out of a Procedure or Rule. The Examiners are
supposed to declare conflicts of interest, but there is no
instruction on how to implement that. As such, there is no
requirement that an Examiner undertake any type of conflicts
check much less something as specific as "a law firm-wide
conflicts check to verify that neither you nor your law firm
has any actual or potentially adverse conflict of interest
to the complainant and/or respondent." Asking the question
implies that this is an imperative when it is not.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">On
top of that, this verbiage does not accurately describe a
conflict check. What is a "potentially adverse conflict of
interest"? Why is it only asking about adverse conflicts? I
note that the Forum does have a Supplementary Rule that "A
Examiner will be disqualified if circumstances exist that
create a conflict of interest or cause the Examiner to be
unfair and biased, including but not limited to ... The
Examiner has served as an attorney to any party or the
Examiner has been associated with an attorney who has
represented a party during that association." This does not
ask the Examiner to run a conflict check, but notably, the
issue it raises is the exact<span> </span><u>opposite</u> of
the issue implied in these proposed questions -- the Forum
is highlighting representing a party, not being adverse
(much less "potentially adverse) to a party.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Now,
I'm not saying it's a bad idea for an Examiner to run a
(properly defined) conflict check, but the very fact that we
are debating Examiner actions and requirements in a
practitioners poll should tell us we're in the wrong place.</div>
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style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">For
that reason, I will not discuss the problems in the
follow-up questions on conflict checks.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The
final question is even worse. ("Have you ever communicated
with a third party regarding an ongoing URS dispute in which
you were a panelist?') As far as I know, this is not
prohibited behavior, especially not this broadly described.
It seems designed to make people feel like they might have
done something wrong. (If this is expressly prohibited by
the Rules or Procedures, then perhaps we could fashion a
question out of that Rule/Procedure<span> </span><u>if we
were putting together a poll for Examiners</u>.) Is it
improper to "communicate" with your spouse about a URS
case? With one of your law partners? With a fellow
Examiner?</div>
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style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Long
story short, these questions should be deleted.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Julie
Hedlund <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>></span>
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name="m_3096627011750983672__MailOriginalBody"
moz-do-not-send="true">Dear RPM PDP WG members,</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Per the WG Co-Chairs, here is
the proposed agenda for the Working Group call
Wednesday, 02 May 2018, scheduled for 1700 UTC.
Times are proposed as estimates and may be adjusted.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Proposed Agenda:</span></p>
<ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black"><span>Roll
call and updates to Statements of Interest (1
minute)</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black"><span>Final
Status of Questions for Practitioners and
Providers (9 minutes)</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black"><span>Report
from the Documents Sub Team (20 minutes)</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black"><span>Discussion
on URS Phase II proposal (59 minutes) See John
McElwaine’s original email at: </span><a
href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2018-April/002857.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span>http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/<wbr>gnso-rpm-wg/2018-April/002857.<wbr>html</span><span></span></a><span>
and a Google Sheet with the proposal as tab one,
and the responses as tab two at: </span><a
href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1apbVrFayn_vbPfhKDpjYs66iBWjvwhWFGZbuGpQnOgI/edit?usp=sharing"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span>https://docs.google.com/<wbr>spreadsheets/d/1apbVrFayn_<wbr>vbPfhKDpjYs66iBWjvwhWFGZbuGpQn<wbr>OgI/edit?usp=sharing</span><span></span></a><span>
</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black"><span>Notice
of agenda for 09 May meeting (1 minute)</span></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Best regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Mary, Julie, Ariel and Berry</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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