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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Paul:<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">What you are doing is simply not productive or constructive. I stand by my objections to your questions as drafted
and want to make it clear that it is rather untoward of you to try to inject questions after the fact – and well after many hours were spent by many people to obtain a consensus on a group of questions – and to then cast stones at folks for objecting to your
questions. Perhaps this is a litigation strategy that you typically use, but this is not the way we should be proceeding. We obviously disagree on this point, so further missives on our positions are simply pointless. We should take this off line and spare
the working group the barrage of emails. I suggest we proceed as Jason has suggested and set up a time with the practitioner subgroup to get this resolved so that a survey can be sent out to move things along. Just let Jason know some times that might work
and I and others will let him know as well.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Paul Keating [mailto:Paul@law.es]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 3, 2018 10:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nahitchevansky, Georges <ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com>; Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas@gmail.com>; Corwin, Philip via gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">You continue to respond by adding still further “objections”. You never seem to be wiling to deal with the ones you have made and I have countered. I can only
presume that you have consented on the old objections and are now focusing on those set out below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">As to focus, the questions are directed entirely at the issue of impartiality. We have an obligation to investigate and the questions only seek to understand the
extent to which panelists check for conflicts. Conflicts checks are SOP for any practicing attorney and are simple to conduct. It would take all of 2 seconds to respond “yes/no” and if yes simply write a short sentence on the nature of the process (which
is not a trade secret).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">As for turning people off from responding, I cannot imagine it doing so given the simplicity of the questions. There are a limited number of practitioners who
would be receiving these surveys and they are all identified in the relevant UDRP/URS decisions that are publicly available.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Relying on the Providers does not investigate the extent to which impartiality and the absence of conflicts exist. That is like asking a judge if any of the attorneys
had a conflict and the judge informing you “well I asked them and they said no”…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I will not reply further to your emails since they just seem to be an attempt to obstruct rather than constructively engage to address the issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Georges Nahitchevansky <<a href="mailto:ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com">ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 3:04 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Paul Keating <<a href="mailto:paul@law.es">paul@law.es</a>>, Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>>, "Corwin, Philip via gnso-rpm-wg" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You obviously misunderstand the whole point that is being made. We have questions that are ready to go and you and couple of others suddenly pop up with last
minute additions that have built in biases. The point that is being made is really quite simple. The issue is whether the URS panelists appointed are impartial. That is what the inquiry should be focused on. My comments are meant to show that anyone could
come up with loaded questions – and I provided a couple of examples that you might be able to understand. As I said, these types of questions are not productive and will likely turn people off to the survey. So in my view these type of questions should be
avoided and should not be included in the practitioner or provider surveys. Questions regarding impartiality and how providers assure such should be in the provider section – and has been discussed by folks already.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">rom:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Paul Keating [<a href="mailto:Paul@law.es">mailto:Paul@law.es</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 3, 2018 8:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nahitchevansky, Georges <<a href="mailto:ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com">ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com</a>>; Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</a>>; Corwin, Philip via gnso-rpm-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Your true colors are showing. You are simply repeating a mantra that is based upon subjectively flawed and illogical presumptions. I believe you have an ulterior
motive of simply delaying things. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">If you have some suggested questions please present them. Otherwise I will simply ignore your comments.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">gnso-rpm-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a>> on behalf of Georges Nahitchevansky <<a href="mailto:ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com"><span style="color:windowtext">ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com</span></a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:23 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Michael Karanicolas <<a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@gmail.com"><span style="color:windowtext">mkaranicolas@gmail.com</span></a>>, "Corwin, Philip via gnso-rpm-wg" <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yes it is incredible that some want to include loaded and biased questions that are full of assumptions.
In that vein, should we ask practitioners if they have ever lied in the papers they submitted in a matter and what specific steps they take to make sure that what they say is truthful. How about a question to practitioners about whether they have ever orchestrated
measures beyond an appeal to deprive a successful claimant from being able to secure a domain name won in a proceeding. The point is that there are many loaded questions full of assumptions that can be asked to create issues to further an agenda. a better
way of approaching the issue of impartiality without throwing out questions that assume a wrong exists is to simply focus on the concept of impartiality per the Rules as opposed to crafting and revising questions that have underlying assumptions not grounded
in the rules. What would have been great is if the folks that posit these 11th hour questions had bothered to join the subgroups who worked very hard to get a set of questions that would be answered. Sweeping in at the 11th hour with these loaded questions,
and when there is limited opportunity to discuss, is not productive. If it was that important of an issue you would think that these folks would have joined the groups and raised these issues. They didn't so I really ask why the loaded questions at this point.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> gnso-rpm-wg
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Karanicolas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Corwin, Philip via gnso-rpm-wg <<a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Incredible. This looks like the exact same kabuki we just went through on the providers doc.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Once again, it's the same tactic of trying to equate a basic and general question with a personal attack
against individual panelists/examiners. Somehow, I doubt that the recipients of this survey will faint with outrage at the temerity of being asked about their conflict of interest procedures. The question does not presume that they are acting in an improper
manner - it asks how they're acting. If they have proper conflict procedures in place, I can't believe they would be shy about saying as much. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I also see the same arguments that the responses will be meaningless or frivolous (which is funny, considering
how people are fighting tooth and nail to exclude the line of inquiry), and the same protests against imagined policy debates that might flow from the information.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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So why don't we all save a bit of time and focus on how the questions can be improved to be better targeted and accurate? I've made a couple of suggested edits, based on Greg's objections. It would be great to try and build forward with actual, constructive
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Nahitchevansky, Georges <<a href="mailto:ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com">ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com</a>>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Your questions are loaded questions that have a bias that panelists are not properly vetting conflicts. As a California attorney you know fully well that your questions go well beyond
the norm. When was the last time you were asked to detail your conflict procedures -- apart from when there is an actual challenge by a party claiming a conflict of interest. By the same token as an attorney representing parties in URS and UDRP proceedings
you must have done a conflict check. Should we be looking into what all parties do in regards to conflict checks. Attorneys are not asked because they are are covered by an ethical obligation and unless someone challenges on the ground of conflict it is
presumed that they did a proper check. Similarly, Judges all over the world are presumed to have done a conflict check and to recuse themselves if a conflict exists. When is the last you asked a judge to explain what they did and what procedures they have
in place before taking on a case. You presume they conducted a proper check and challenge if you believe a conflict of interest. The same should apply in the URS context. URS panelists should not be put into a separate category that goes beyond what attorneys
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The bottom line is that this entire issue you are trying to inject here is part and parcel of some notion that panelists are not acting in an impartial manner ias required by the URS
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">One other basic problem with your questions, is that many answers will be meaningless as they will simply be yes we have appropriate procedures in place. You may get a handful of more
detailed responses, but then we will be arguing for months on end about whether procedures are sufficient or not etc. We are not here to rewrite the procedures firms take to run conflict checks. Again, the issue is about having impartial panelists and what
steps are taken to make sure that is the case. As in my judge example above, if you were going to go down this path of inquiry you would ask a judicial commission to advise on what they do to have impartial judges. That is the more relevant and productive
inquiry. So again I stress that these questions should be removed.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Lastly, I am glad you agree that there should be ramifications for attorneys or others acting for parties for filing false statements, supporting parties that hide behind bogus contact
information, or fail to disclose their own interests in a matter. Maybe we should ask practitioners if they feel their should be meaningful sanctions for such behavior and the type of sanctions. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER:
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">The questions are neutral questions asking for a fact-based reply. They do not presume anything. This is clear from reading the qualifying questions at issue.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Regarding some panelists not being attorneys, I have several responses. Primarily, given that the UDRP/URS is founded in legal principles, I question the use of those without legal
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Regarding your suggestion that attorneys confirm who they are representing when domains use false WHOIS data or privacy, rest assured. There are plenty of rules and regulations that
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Regarding the fact-checking, I am fine with your suggestion - as long as it applies to both complainants and to respondents. Personally, I am troubled by the fact that representatives
can even provide a certification when they themselves have no personal knowledge. I presume that allowing such a process in the UDRP/URS space grew out of the trademark practice (where providing such certifications to the registration authorities is a common
practice). However, if you want to change it that is fine with me – as long as it applies to both sides.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">As to the proposal to limit inquiry to those clearly provided under the rules, that is not consistent with our marching orders. In fact if we took that approach to everything we would
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">To conclude, I would submit that it is really your comments that are the loaded ones and intended to prevent an inquiry into a legitimate issue.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">gnso-rpm-wg <</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>
on behalf of Georges Nahitchevansky <</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">ghn@kilpatricktownsend.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 2:28 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Greg Shatan <</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">>,
Julie Hedlund <</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">julie.hedlund@icann.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">"
<</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Below are the questions being referred to. I likewise object to these questions which have an underlying assumption that Panelists are somehow biased and don’t screen conflicts properly.
It also assumes that the panelists are all attorneys at law firms and the law firms do not have proper screening mechanisms for conflicts. Simply put, most of these questions are loaded questions that are meant to further a particular agenda. If we are going
to go down the route of these type of loaded questions, should we also be asking about attorneys, for example, who represent parties that registered names with bogus contact information whether they conducted a thorough check so that they can certify that
they truthfully identified the party they are representing and how they conducted that check (e.g., what mechanisms are in place and all steps taken). After all the ethical rules make clear that attorneys are bound by requirements that attorneys be truthful.
In that vein, should we also ask whether the attorneys representing parties have been truthful and checked the facts that they are stating in their papers – and what steps they take to certify and insure this. I can think of several examples I personally
know of where an attorney simply lied in the submissions. Should this now be an entire line of inquiry. Should we ask whether Rule 11 type sanctions be available in URS cases where an attorney representing a party is found to represent a party with fake
contact information or has lied in the papers. I can think of many more loaded lines of inquiries if that what some want to do, but ultimately I don’t think these are going to be productive in moving the ball forward.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">In light of the questions that were suggested on the provider side of things, I think the only issue to raise is whether Panelists are impartial per the requirements of the rules
and what providers do to make sure that is the case – and nothing more, . These questions should not be here and should be deleted in their entirety</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">4. Do you serve as a URS panelist?</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">A. Yes</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">5. If yes, do you undertake a law firm-wide conflicts check to verify that neither you nor your law firm has any actual or potentially adverse conflict of interest to the complainant
and/or respondent?</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">B. No</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">If yes, please briefly describe the methods used to verify the absence of conflicts:___________________________________________________’</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">If yes, do you retain records of your search?</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">6. Have you ever communicated with a third party regarding an ongoing URS dispute in which you were a panelist?</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">If yes, please briefly explain the nature of such communications:_________________________</span></i><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> gnso-rpm-wg [</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 2, 2018 1:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Julie Hedlund <</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">julie.hedlund@icann.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><a href="mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] REMINDER: Proposed agenda for RPM Working Group call on 25 April 2018 at 1700 UTC</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">All,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#222222">I have significant objections to the questions to Examiners that were tacked on to the end of the Practitioners questionnaire at the 11th hour. Apologies for not focusing on this
before now. I don't believe these have really been properly reviewed or discussed.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#222222">I believe these questions are inappropriate in a poll of practitioners, as these are questions directed to "panelists." (The proper term is Examiner....) It feels like a "bait and
switch" tactic. If we are going to survey Examiners, let's survey Examiners -- not ambush practitioners. On that basis alone, we should eliminate these questions.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#222222">I am also troubled by the questions themselves. Singling out these questions, out of all that we might ask Examiners, seems vaguely accusatory. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#222222">The basis for these questions is questionable. I've reviewed the URS Procedures and Rules, and none of these questions comes out of a Procedure or Rule. The Examiners are supposed
to declare conflicts of interest, but there is no instruction on how to implement that. As such, there is no requirement that an Examiner undertake any type of conflicts check much less something as specific as "a law firm-wide conflicts check to verify that
neither you nor your law firm has any actual or potentially adverse conflict of interest to the complainant and/or respondent." Asking the question implies that this is an imperative when it is not.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#222222">On top of that, this verbiage does not accurately describe a conflict check. What is a "potentially adverse conflict of interest"? Why is it only asking about adverse conflicts?
I note that the Forum does have a Supplementary Rule that "A Examiner will be disqualified if circumstances exist that create a conflict of interest or cause the Examiner to be unfair and biased, including but not limited to ... The Examiner has served as
an attorney to any party or the Examiner has been associated with an attorney who has represented a party during that association." This does not ask the Examiner to run a conflict check, but notably, the issue it raises is the exact <u>opposite</u> of the
issue implied in these proposed questions -- the Forum is highlighting representing a party, not being adverse (much less "potentially adverse) to a party.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#222222">Now, I'm not saying it's a bad idea for an Examiner to run a (properly defined) conflict check, but the very fact that we are debating Examiner actions and requirements in a practitioners
poll should tell us we're in the wrong place.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#222222">For that reason, I will not discuss the problems in the follow-up questions on conflict checks.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#222222">The final question is even worse. ("Have you ever communicated with a third party regarding an ongoing URS dispute in which you were a panelist?') As far as I know, this is not prohibited
behavior, especially not this broadly described. It seems designed to make people feel like they might have done something wrong. (If this is expressly prohibited by the Rules or Procedures, then perhaps we could fashion a question out of that Rule/Procedure <u>if
we were putting together a poll for Examiners</u>.) Is it improper to "communicate" with your spouse about a URS case? With one of your law partners? With a fellow Examiner?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#222222">Long story short, these questions should be deleted.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#222222">Greg</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>> wrote:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear RPM PDP WG members,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Proposed Agenda:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Discussion on URS Phase II proposal (59 minutes) See John McElwaine’s original email at:
<a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2018-April/002857.html">http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2018-April/002857.html</a> and a Google Sheet with the proposal as tab one, and the responses as tab two at:
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Notice of agenda for 09 May meeting (1 minute)</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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